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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 03:24 PM
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Why "free markets" suck.
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 03:25 PM by undergroundpanther
Free trade and the globalists "dream" cannot be achieved. PERIOD.

As bad as it is, if third world countries started the consuming cycle like what happens here in America, the Earth itself could not sustain it. Period.

If china had as many cars per household as we do..what do you think would happen to global warming and our health?

If they consumed as much as we do,farmed as much and pushed the productivity of land and animals to the max what would happen to their topsoil and fisheries and farms?(they'd look like ours, a disaster.
If other countries got wealthy enough through "free markets" and WASTED and THREW AWAY as much garbage as we do per household,how long would the Earth be able to hold it underground, how long until we all get sick and die?


Today’s consumption is undermining the environmental resource base. It is exacerbating inequalities. And the dynamics of the consumption-poverty-inequality-environment nexus are accelerating. If the trends continue without change — not redistributing from high-income to low-income consumers, not shifting from polluting to cleaner goods and production technologies, not promoting goods that empower poor producers, not shifting priority from consumption for conspicuous display to meeting basic needs — today’s problems of consumption and human development will worsen.
http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Consumption.asp

When free trade makes other nations"produce(usually through slaves) more product it requires not only using more resources but making more waste where does it go? Into YOU and I and everywhere else.
http://www.chemicalbodyburden.org/
How industrial pollutants,some even called"contained" actually migrate all over the Earth..
http://www.earthdrx.org/

What happens when you live in a toxic brew of industrial chemicals and the by products of a "productive" market that the ones profiting the most from they will not let it stop growing? What do you call something that won't stop growing even as the thing or host keeping it alive dies? Cancer.Globalization is just a metastasizing of the cancerous"free market"mythology of the market's true believers in the biggest ponzi scheme ever done..A ponzi scheme that is killing us all slowly..that's all.

A nickle mine in Canada
http://www.sprol.com/?p=64
Want something closer to home?

http://www.post-gazette.com/healthscience/20000218pollute2.asp
Is hyper extraction and growth on a finite planet STUPID..YES.
Extraction is euphemised as "production," in part because the latter term is commonly considered a basic fact of life in our industrial minds. History reveals our succumbing to the extraction culture through force as well as feel-good advertising. The Extractors concept describes what we allow done to us when we submit to others for complete domestication in order to cater to their devouring the Earth, while we willingly participate.
http://www.culturechange.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=117&Itemid=1
Human beings are currently causing the greatest
mass extinction of species since the extinction of
the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. If present trends
continue one half of all species of life on earth will
be extinct in less than 100 years, as a result of
habitat destruction, pollution, invasive species,
and climate change.
Don't believe it?
Click the link and look around there.
http://www.well.com/user/davidu/extinction.html
And here too
http://www.envirolink.org/sitemap.html

Changing this begins and ends with each one of us.
Do not listen to the globalists, and free traders,they are selling death.



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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 03:52 PM
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1. k and r
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 04:07 PM
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2. For that level of consumption for every human being on the planet
it would require 12 EARTHS!!! Last time I counted, we only had one.

Re As bad as it is, if third world countries started the consuming cycle like what happens here in America, the Earth itself could not sustain it. Period.

If china had as many cars per household as we do..what do you think would happen to global warming and our health?

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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:15 PM
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3. But IS It a Free Market?
It could be argued that oil and everything to do with it are being heavily subsidized.

It's not capitalism when the robber barons buy the government. There's another word for that kind of government. It starts with an "F".
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:47 PM
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4. "Free Trade" will ALWAYS be a "Race to the Bottom....
...for the simple reason that Capital can always outrun LABOR Rights, Human Rights, and Environmental Rights.
Capital can move overnight across borders and around the World.
Organizing LABOR and Environmental Protection and redress takes YEARS.

It takes tha Board of Directors ONE Meeting to decide to Fold the Corporate Operations and move to a Fresh Area of Labor and Environmental exploitation. The MOVE starts the NEXT DAY.

Without Governmental Protection (the regulation that Corporate owners HATE and is illegal under NAFTA), it takes LABOR years (if ever) to organize and actually produce protections from exploitation.

The same applies to Environmental damages. Usually, the damage must first occur, and then environmental grievances must work their way through a usually corrupt legal system.

When the heat is finally felt by the Corporations, they simply pack up and move to an unspoiled area.
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