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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 05:26 PM
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Jackie Robinson supported only Republican candidates...
because they preached self-empowerment and personal responsibility. Interesting.

I wonder what Jackie would think nowadays? I know Ernie Banks endorsed Bush, which is a shame.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 05:29 PM
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1. He would *not* support today's repukes
Jackie Robinson did establish good ties with New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller (who later became Gerald Ford's Vice President). Robinson supported Rockefeller's bid during the 1964 Republican Primiaries. However after the GOP ticket went to Barry Goldwater, Robinson was disgusted at what he saw during the 1964 Republican National Convention.

http://www.framinghamdems.org/JackRob.html

I am sure he would be even more disgusted by *today's* repukes.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 05:33 PM
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2. oh lord, if that's the case he'd flip out at these guys
Goldwater is practically a flaming liberal to these clowns.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 05:34 PM
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4. that's right
Robinson died before the current wingnut crew took over the GOP, and besides, many African-Americans of Jackie's era were Republicans. It's not a surprise that he was.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 05:34 PM
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3. Back then, racist Dick Russell was the top-dog Dem in the House
The 'Southern Caucus' OWNED the Hill. Save for the Hubert Humphrey-type small cadre of D liberals, the southern Democrats held enough sway to push the party around.

Nowadays, all those bastards would be Republicans.

Once upon a time, the Republicans actually WERE the Party Of Lincoln.

Now, they're the Party of Greed, Obstreperousness, and Pigheadedness.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 06:26 PM
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7. At least one of those bastards did become a Republican
Strom Thurmond
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 06:53 PM
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10. Trent Lott was a College DEMOCRAT back then, too. NT
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 05:40 PM
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5. I heard, in passing today, that Jackie refused to shake the hand
of JFK because he did not endorse a civil rights agenda...

Not until JFK was sure he would be re-elected did he start putting together the Civil Rights legistlation that was later put forth and pushed through Congress by LBJ...
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:11 PM
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12. LBJ started playing civil rights games in the Senate when he was MAJORITY leader.
Read Master of the Senate by Caro--fascinating account of ambition and canny, cunning political savvy.

I don't know if the story you heard was true--Robinson admired Nixon because Nixon, as President of the SENATE when he was Vice President under Eisenhower, was involved in the Civil Rights legislation efforts that were being waged in the Senate at that time--not much came of it--they got one piece of legislation (meaningless, but symbolic--voting rights, specifically) passed, but that one piece was like a crack in a dam, making the next efforts, years later, easier.

However, Robinson became disenchanted with Nixon quick, during the campaign, because Nixon was afraid to go to Harlem:

    After baseball Robinson went to work for Chock Full O' Nuts as a spokesman then continued his efforts to advance civil rights. He became actively involved in the campaign for Republican candidate Richard Nixon in the 1960 Presidential elections. Robinson opted to support Nixon over John F. Kennedy because he liked the work that Nixon had done in the area of civil rights during Nixon's years as Vice President. However Robinson later described his regret on having supported Nixon.

    Two incidents during the 1960 campaign were quite disillusioning to Robinson. In one incident Nixon was asked to comment on a statement by running mate Henry Cabot Lodge who stated that in a Nixon Administration a black would be named to the Cabinet; Nixon commented that Lodge was speaking on his own behalf. Later during the campaign Nixon refused to speak out when civil rights leader Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., was locked in a full-security prison for a minor motor vehicle infraction.

    Further Nixon refused to campaign in Harlem (while Kennedy did). These incidents drew Robinson a great deal of criticism from the African American community for his support of the Nixon campaign. By the end of the campaign the Kennedy ticket was looking more attractive to Robinson, but he had already committed to Nixon.

    Jackie Robinson did establish good ties with New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller (who later became Gerald Ford's Vice President). Robinson supported Rockefeller's bid during the 1964 Republican Primiaries. However after the GOP ticket went to Barry Goldwater, Robinson was disgusted at what he saw during the 1964 Republican National Convention.





JFK had to be careful--he had the same shit on him that many Democrats have today--the "too" label. Too Eastern, too elitist, too rich, too liberal, too catholic...he was NOT universally beloved while he lived. In fact, he was a bit polarizing at times, like Clinton, even though he was also popular at times, especially when he was able to really pull out the savoir faire and make us look good as a nation. Jackie didn't hurt him, either--everyone liked looking at her.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:57 AM
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13. If he would have come out for Civil Rights in the campaign....
He would have lost the south...
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:42 AM
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14. Oh, certainly. LBJ did such a good job of playing both ends against the middle when he
was majority leader that he was actually perceived as the "good old boy" on the ticket, the fellah who would keep JFK 'in line.' The irony that LBJ turned out to be the Civil Rights/Great Society dude was rather delicious. No one else could have done it. Had he simply avoided escalation in Vietnam, he'd be up there a few steps behind Lincoln. Instead, his legacy is mixed.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 05:41 PM
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6. Same thing my Republican dad says these days I'm betting...
Shoot... things have changed so much that even I look like a Goldwater Republican these days!
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 06:26 PM
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8. my uncle died just before * was elected
he was a life-long republican and a leader of the desegregation and civil rights' movement in san francisco. to my astonishment (and that of our entire family), he continued to support the republican party under reagan's reign, but i think he also became very disillusioned as well.
he detested bush and had he lived, i doubt he would have voted for him.

but...as another poster mentioned, the democratic party of my uncle's youth was not the democratic party of today. i just wish he'd come around before reagan.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 06:32 PM
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9. The Democratic Party was a different party back then.
A lot of black people voted Republican before the 1960s. That changed by 1964. Those old Dixiecrats started voting for Republicans and black people started voting for Democrats.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 06:57 PM
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11. Yeah, but that was during the Republican era of Eisenhower, Rockefeller, and Dewey
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 06:57 PM by brentspeak
Three guys who would be probably be smeared as "al Quaeda supporters" by today's GOP.
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