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1. talking of Foreign intell bill moderization.

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2. Jane Harman on the floor

[Hepburn]

3. My rep....

...and I am just tuning in on CSpan 1...wassup?

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4. there have been late negotiations from WH and it seems neither dems nor repugs

have the fight copy of the bill. or maybe some do and some do not.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

8. Which in all honesty isn't fair. This reminds me of the railroading of the Patriot Act. There is

a compromise in it that isn't being addressed in public.

[Hepburn]

5. POS Dan Lungren...

...is up and bloviating....gag me....:puke:

Intelligence chatter....more of terra, terra, terra faux speak IMO.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

6. They are fighting about FISA. It seems that the Dems have a bill and refused to allow

the AG control over spying on Americans. Alcee spoke about no wsrrants re foreign to foreign, ok. Then he said they agreed to letting the phone companies off the hook (no pun intended)..I don't like that, and then he said the Dems agreed to another change..and he Never said what that was! This bothers me.


The Repugs are upset because they don't have the bill in front of them.

[Hepburn]

10. Lungren....

...his question: How long did it take to write the Constitution?

WTF was that suppose to mean?

Some R-Michigan bullshitter up now.

[rodeodance]

27. but says here Bush relented on this.

Forum Name Latest Breaking News
Topic subject Bush says Congress must stay in session until it passes new spying law
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2940501#2940501
2940501, Bush says Congress must stay in session until it passes new spying law
Posted by Purveyor on Fri Aug-03-07 11:32 AM

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON — President Bush said today that Congress must stay in session until it approves legislation modernizing a U.S. law governing eavesdropping on foreigners.

"So far the Democrats in Congress have not drafted a bill I can sign," Bush said at FBI headquarters, where he was meeting with counterterror and homeland security officials. "We've worked hard and in good faith with the Democrats to find a solution, but we are not going to put our national security at risk. Time is short."

The president said that lawmakers must not leave for their August recess this weekend as planned unless they "pass a bill that will give our intelligence community the tools they need to protect the United States."

Earlier today, the White House offered an eleventh-hour accord to Democrats in the negotiations over the matter, saying it would agree to a court review of its foreign intelligence activities instead of leaving certification up to the attorney general and director of national intelligence.



Read more: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003820002_websurveillance03.html

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

35. Of course Shrub is being relentless on want to do away with our civil liberties. eom

[mzmolly]

36. Just yesterday I heard Democrats were "scrambling" to accomodate Bush.

Huh.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

40. There seems to be something they accomodated him on that hasn't been mentioned

in public. If the phone companies are being left off the hook, it must be tied into that.

[mzmolly]

41. Again, I'll await judgement.

I think we all have to do that. Bush isn't happy, the R's aren't happy. That's a good sign.

Peace

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

43. There is no choice to wait. Peace right back at you. :)

[Trillo]

38. God that ticks me off.

How often do authorities let little people "off the hook"? But if you're a huge corporation, you're apparently "above the law" because Congress will change the law for you.

Best government money can buy.

[spinbaby]

7. What?

Feed the cube rats!

[Hepburn]

11. I am at home and watching and IMO....

...you know as much as I do right now.

All seems like talking points BS right now. But...there seems to be a lot of anger...or maybe faux anger...going on.

Rs are spouting terra, terra terra...the usual talking points IMO.

[rodeodance]

12. yes, talking points now.

[brentspeak]

13. Basically, the Repubs started out by claiming the Democrats were hiding the details of FISA

That B.S. talking point was first uttered by Pete Sessions.

Then both Jane Harman and Alcee Hastings pointed out that the FISA bill details had already been released to the Republicans long ago.

But Sessions and Heather Wilson (Repug) merely repeated their earlier accusation that the Democrats were preventing the Republicans from knowing about the bill.

Finally, Alcee Hastings let loose a torrent, getting real angry that Sessions was trying to perpetrate a lie.

[Hepburn]

16. Thanks....

...good summary. I was picking up some of this from remarks on other threads, but you put it all together.

In other words, the Repukes are again lying about something.

Whodda guessed Rs would lie???? :sarcasm:

[VP505]

9. Who throws the first chair?

:popcorn: Yee haw!

[malaise]

14. I hope one of them gets up and screams that we have more danger from falling bridges

than from terrorists.

[ljm2002]

15. These Republics are bloviating pigs...

...they lie with every word that comes out of their collective mouth.

And all they do is try and smear Democrats, who have not yet figured out how to deflect it effectively. Although I will say, Alcee Hastings is showing how it's done. I loved it that he lost it during the last Republican speaker.

The current speaker is accusing Democrats of gamesmanship. He is a lying Republic pig -- but I repeat myself.

Sad. I will say this: they know how to be a minority party. If they did not have the habit of lying the way they do, I would almost admire it. But as it is, it makes me so angry that I literally feel sick.

[rodeodance]

17. yes, I so tire of the Self-Rightousness of the Repugs

[brentspeak]

21. I especially like that one Repug who started off with "I can't tell you how disappointed I am..."

"...with my colleagues," feigned sad outrage.

[Hepburn]

18. Is there some reason you would insult...

...pigs by comparing them to Repukes??? :hi:

[monmouth]

37. They should learn that role well, I hope they're there for ages to come.

[Va Lefty]

19. Somebody please deck that yahoo McHenry from NC

What a tool!

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20. dem speaker saying over and over the Adm. keeps adding stuff.

[DURHAM D]

22. Pay back - too bad.

They would not let Dems see the bills for 6 years before they were on the floor for a vote.

Big cry babies those Repubs. Like most bullies - they can dish it out but they can't take it. Bend over.

[Hepburn]

25. ......

Ex-fucking-actly! :applause:

[Hepburn]

23. POS Heather Wilson up and bullshitting...

...could hear boo'ing in the background and objections entered.

She wanted the House to recess on this...voice vote taken, said that NAYS won and the POS Rep Heather Wilson wants a recorded vote.

Typical Repuke....trying to prevent something by diversion. :puke:

[brentspeak]

29. She would not shut up earlier when Hastings was speaking

"Will the gentleman yield?"

"Will the gentleman please yield"

100x, when it was clear to a blind and deaf person that Hastings didn't want to yield.

[Hepburn]

34. What???

She thinks because she is female she gets special privileges to act like a complete asshole? I am female and I sooooooooo resent women who act like this...like they expect someone to comply with their out-of-line and unreasonable conduct just because they think they are a freaking princesss? Gag me.....:puke:

[rodeodance]

24. Health Wilson is upset She just asked for a Resess, than to adjourn. Now voting

[rodeodance]

26. she did not like the billl and wants to send it back to the big boss to see it

it is indeed what he wants.

[Hepburn]

28. Wow.......some Repuke from TX.....

...sounds like he is accusing the Dem speaker of trying to put in a false vote on this mx to recess from POS Wilson.

What a total asshole.

[JNelson6563]

30. They should borrow the Senate's "whiffle canes"

and get this party started. :toast:

Julie

[rodeodance]

31. How Ironic-Repugs are so worried that their votes are not being counted.

[Debi]

33. There must be more reps than Dems on the floor at the moment

tricky little devils aren't they?? :puke:

[Debi]

32. Hah...republicans fighting for their rights on voting!

Hmmmmmm :think:

[Hepburn]

39. Who is the asshole from Calif who is asking questions now?

OMG.....how will the chair know how poeple voted???

GMAB!

[Hepburn]

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