Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

At U.S. base, Iraqis must use separate latrine

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 03:02 PM
Original message
At U.S. base, Iraqis must use separate latrine
At U.S. base, Iraqis must use separate latrine

The sign taped to the men's latrine is just five lines:

"US
MILITARY
CONTRACTORS
CIVILIANS
ONLY!!!!!"

It needed only one: "NO IRAQIS."

Here at this searing, dusty U.S. military base about four miles west of Baqouba , Iraqis— including interpreters who walk the same foot patrols and sleep in the same tents as U.S. troops— must use segregated bathrooms.

Another sign, in a dining hall, warns Iraqis and "third-country nationals" that they have just one hour for breakfast, lunch or dinner. American troops get three hours. Iraqis say they sometimes wait as long as 45 minutes in hot lines to get inside the chow hall, leaving just 15 minutes to get their food and eat it.

It's been nearly 60 years since President Harry Truman ended racial segregation in the U.S. military. But at Forward Operating Base Warhorse it's alive and well, perhaps the only U.S. military facility with such rules, Iraqi interpreters here say.


The article continues at http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20070803/wl_mcclatchy/20070803bcusiraqsegregation_attn_national_foreign_editors_ytop

It is a good thing they hate us for our freedom, because we certainly give them many other reasons to hate us.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 03:04 PM
Response to Original message
1. Oh, christ. We need brakes for this slide.
:(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 03:05 PM
Response to Original message
2. Iraqis must ride in the back of the bus, too?
Our unique brand of "freedom and democracy.":thumbsdown:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cspanlovr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 03:05 PM
Response to Original message
3. OMG! Exporting the Old South to the Middle East. Wonderful.
x(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 03:06 PM
Response to Original message
4. Several Possible Reasons
The military doesn't trust the Iraqis, or perhaps it's an American supremacist concept?

It doesn't look like the chain of command has any problems with it, after all what's an Iraqi, besides another type of "raghead", right?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 03:10 PM
Response to Original message
5. from the same article...
"It sucks," Ahmed Mohammed , 30, said of the latrine policy. He called the signs— in English and Arabic— "racist."

He's worked as an interpreter for the U.S. military since 2004. He's college educated and well versed in the ways of Western plumbing. He said Warhorse was the only American base where he'd encountered U.S.-only signs on latrines and country-of-origin restrictions on dining hours.

"I live in the same tent with 80 Americans," he said.

Mohammed works for L-3 Titan Group , a unit of New York -based L-3 Communications . He declined to have his picture taken for publication. He fears for his life. He said his brother was killed last year in Baghdad for working for an American company.

Mohammed has sold his house and has squirreled away enough money to buy visas for his family of four. He said he intended to quit soon and emigrate to Germany . The latrine policy is part of the reason, he said.

...winning hearts and minds, and spreading our style of democracy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 03:13 PM
Response to Original message
6. Cultural differences
Not everyone uses the same type of facilities.

Take a look at this collection of toilets in the Middle East.

Most Middle Easterner's squat while defecating; they do not sit on porcelain thrones. (And they wipe with their left hand. That's why you never, ever offer your left hand to shake!)

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Did any Iraqis put up those signs?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 18th 2024, 11:24 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC