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Fri Aug-03-07 04:50 PM
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then why is DraftGore.com still alive and well? Wouldn't they throw in the towel? Did the Gore folks tell them to "forget about it!?" Anyone know who the Draft.Gore folks are and/or what they are up to?
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Fri Aug-03-07 04:55 PM
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1. exactly!! correct immeundo. ding! ding! ding! we have a winner |
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:patriot:
he is running, what will be in the future known as, a non-campaign. he is rewriting the book on campaigning.
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Fri Aug-03-07 04:56 PM
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2. You're getting me awfully excited! |
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Or is this sarcasm? Careful-I wilt easily-especially in this heat!
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Fri Aug-03-07 05:12 PM
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i am NOT kidding you :patriot:
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Fri Aug-03-07 04:58 PM
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3. I am proud to say I am a draftgore person |
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And as far as I know, no one has told us to stop. :)
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Fri Aug-03-07 05:00 PM
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This is very hopeful. Tell us more!!
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Fri Aug-03-07 05:20 PM
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7. It's a website; check it out |
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http://www.algore.org/On the first page, enter your zip code and see if there is a group in your area.
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Fri Aug-03-07 05:11 PM
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5. but a draft group is to try and draft somebody who isn't running that is the whole concept of |
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the draft. Gore doesn't control it.
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Fri Aug-03-07 05:27 PM
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8. In 2004, Gore immediately shut down the draft movement. |
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This time, not a peep. I'm also a proud drafter.
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Fri Aug-03-07 07:42 PM
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Why do people keep spreading that misrepresentation? He never shut anything down because he was not aligned with any of it. The Draft Gore 2004 effort dismantled ITSELF the day after he endorsed Howard Dean as did other efforts, and my effort which kept going for a while even after that was not stopped by him either and he knew full well about it. It means nothing that it is still going because he believes in freedom to do as one pleases, even if it goes against hise own words and wishes. It says nothing about his feelings on it one way or the other.
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Sat Aug-04-07 12:54 AM
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13. You're right. Gore called Dylan and Dylan changed it to algoredemocrats.com |
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Gore called Dylan before the 60 Minutes segment and after he told Dylan that he would not run Dylan changed the site's name and focus. After Kerry conceded the 2004 election Dylan started up the AlGore.org draft-oriented website.
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Sat Aug-04-07 04:32 PM
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14. Mr. Gore is not supposed to have any dealings with draft people |
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Are you saying he did and is now? Because if he is talking to Dylan Malone now behind the scenes as someone suggested on another thread, that wouldn't look good for him to those looking to challenge his credibility on the climate crisis and his other public statements. And you know exactly what I am talking about in this case. Dylan Malone is not Draft Gore. Draft Gore 04 DID go until after he endorsed Dean under that name.
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Mabus
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Sat Aug-04-07 11:33 PM
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15. What is your problem? |
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Are you saying that Gore can't speak to his friends? That he's not allowed to share how he feels or what he's thinking? In 2002 Gore called Dylan because they are friends and told Dylan he wasn't going to run and asked him not to encourage a draft movement on his website. So far, Gore has not asked Dylan to take down the website. Gore talks to Dylan which is not the same thing as participating, directing Dylan's website, Dylan's PAC or what Dylan does with his spare time. Grow up. What is your problem? Are you upset that Dylan is friends with Al? Are you upset that Gore talks to people he cares about or are you just upset he doesn't talk to you?
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Sun Aug-05-07 09:38 AM
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Can't answer a simple question without attacking? I believe if his "friend" is the leader of a draft movement(PAC) for him, no, I do not believe he can have contact with him per FEC rules for PACs that states that they are not aligned in any way or supported by any candidate or candidate's committee. News that he was in contact with someone who has a PAC for him could lead to others stating that he was influencing what they are doing. Or don't you give a damn about false accusations of impropriety agaisnt him? Is ALL you know here to attack? Get over yourself already. And I have talked to him a few times already in case you need to know, and that wasn't the point and you would have known that if you could see past your nasty disposition.
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Sun Aug-05-07 12:04 PM
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19. So now you're trying to control who Gore talks to and what he talks to them about? |
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You're the only one making false accusations of impropriety. Besides, if what you contend (that Gore won't run for president no matter what) is true then you don't have a basis for FEC complaints because Dylan's draft efforts are a folly.
Or, don't you believe what you keep repeating: that Gore is happy with what he is doing, that he won't run and that we're wasting our time. You can't have it both ways. You either believe he has no intention of running or you'll have to admit that Gore is keeping the door open. Which is it?
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Sun Aug-05-07 12:10 PM
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21. Forget it,.You are simply too acid to talk to like an adult |
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I simply stated FEC guidelines after YOU stated he talked to him. If that is too simple for you to process not my problem.
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Mabus
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Sun Aug-05-07 12:22 PM
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22. What did I say that was acidic? |
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You jump to conclusions about private conversations to which you were not a party. You contend that Gore is acting in an illegal manner. I never contended there was collusion between them about what Dylan does in his spare time or Gore's future intentions. Nor has anyone else, but you.
fwiw, you might want to do a quick google search for interviews that Gore has done this year. You'll find that what has been reported here mirrors what Gore has said in the media. He won't be happy until the current candidates make the environment their number one issue. He has also said repeatedly that he hasn't ruled running out completely. So, what exactly are the earth shattering revelations about the content of their conversation that was posted here that blow the draft movement out of the water and bring shame to Gore? There are none.
I knew you wouldn't answer my questions. You can't. That would require you to be honest with yourself about your own motivations for your campaign against Gore.
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Fri Aug-03-07 05:57 PM
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9. Just signed the petition. n/t |
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Fri Aug-03-07 08:03 PM
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11. America would LOVE to RE-ELECT GORE (nt) |
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Edited on Fri Aug-03-07 08:03 PM by AtomicKitten
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Fri Aug-03-07 08:03 PM
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12. There's a draft Kerry in 2008 site too |
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Sun Aug-05-07 10:07 AM
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17. But Kerry has issued his formal statement |
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that he is definitely out of the running for 08. Gore has has been a bit more ambiguous. I don't think they're the same type of situation.
Frankly I think Gore is simply waiting and seeing. A lot can happen in the next couple/few months. I don't blame him one bit and no matter what he decides to do, I'll support him and his efforts 100%.
Julie
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Sun Aug-05-07 12:09 PM
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20. Well we will know if he's running for sure or not in a couple of months because by October |
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he will have to have submitted slates of delegates and his name to be on ballot in several states which will decide who is nominated. You still need delegates to be nominated. But my guess is that some people will still be talking about drafting Gore next year. Hope springs eternal, even if its poltically naive.
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