“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security

[in_cog_ni_to]

“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security”

“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security”

“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security”

“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security”

“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security”

“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security”

“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security”

Benjamin Franklin

Does anyone know what that MEANS anymore???? :grr:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. I Was Told By Another Poster

I was told by another poster here on another topic that Ben Franklin modified liberty to "essential liberty"....

[Solly Mack]

2. Oh....that only applies to "we the people" (loss of liberty)

people in government still have their liberty and then some

[givemebackmycountry]

3. Damn right -

IN_COG

You've caught some shit here tonight.
Let me be the first to tell you...

Damn, you are SO right.

[in_cog_ni_to]

6. That's just brentspeak. Apparently he's not using his civil liberties.

He LIKES moderate, spineless losers. I don't. I really don't care what he thinks.

Thanks for the kind words. I'm so pissed off right now I can't see straight.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

4. All I want is the names of the Dems that voted for this. That's all I want.

In other words, I want to know who's not a real Dem.

[in_cog_ni_to]

7. They should be on record soon, I would think...or by Monday.

I just LOVE how they waited until it was recess time so they could get the hell outta dodge before the shit hit the fan. Not only are they a bunch of losers, they a bunch of chickens! SPINELESS CHICKENS!

[Sarah Ibarruri]

12. I know! Wasn't that nice of them? They thought that way we'd not notice, or FORGET. nt

[knight_of_the_star]

15. There's at least five lists on here right now

I know I posted one last night

[Deja Q]

5. "No American has a God-given right to a job."

Carly Fiorina, CEO of HP until she was fired (but got a golden parachute while she gave the employees she replaced with cheap foreign folks some golden showers.)

[nradisic]

8. Not quite...

"Those willing to trade essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty, nor safety" - Ben Franklin.

I made a bumper sticker with this quote two years ago and have had it on my back bumper since...I saw two years ago where we were heading. We must clean the Democratic Party in the worst way. If you are as pissed as I am, then vote in the primaries and vote the fucks out!

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. LOL! That's funny!

VOTE THEM OUT??!!!!:rofl::rofl::rofl: Do you think there's a REASON they have done NOTHING about the evoting machine mess? Vote them out?:rofl:

Best laugh all day.

[Individualist]

9. If ever there was an appropriate time for that quote, this is it!

Thank you for posting it! :thumbsup:

[KoKo]

10. There is a creeping numbness that has covered our land...and it

spreads across the world. And the killed and maimed and innocent...will have no voice. They are collateral to the ultimate powers. They can be replaced. And, what we were told were lies...and the lies will live long after we are dead. The lies are always the truth...they are always the truth..

[Hydra]

13. It's not numbness

It's the silence of people who have been shouted down.

At least in my case.

I told people GWB was going to run our country into the ground.

"He can't do that! We have checks and balances!"

I told them that he was going to take us to war.

"With whom? We don't have any enemies!"

It told them he would take our jobs away.

"He wouldn't do that! That would hurt him, too!"

I told them that he would send us to prison if we spoke out.

"The 1st Amendment is a God given right!"

I told them that he would be the new Hitler, and that minorities and non-christians would be discriminated against and not protected by the law.

"You're insane! He's not like that! He's a good person!"

It's of little joy to see the truth when you see it the first time...but still I content myself knowing that the people who said these things to me are little more than firewood in the mind of this administration. Even the people who voted for you are worthless once you achieve the power you were seeking.

A grim laugh for the walking dead, who know it not. At least I know where I stand. The truth will be more painful for the ones who wanted to believe.

[bamacrat]

14. One of my most favorite quotes ever.

All too true, and sad when you think about all the people who dont believe this.

[Kablooie]

16. True. But the fact is that the American people do NOT deserve liberty or security.

And they are willing to give it up simply because life today is adequate.

To hell with tomorrow.

This is the America you live in, my friend.