30 of the 41 were the BLUE DOG DEMOCRATS

[in_cog_ni_to]

and they're good for the Democratic party, WHY???? 30 out of the 41!

on edit, for clarification, the ones "on the list" are the ones who voted YES. The list of yeas is below if you wish to check it.


List of Blue Dog Coalition members

* Mike Arcuri (New York)
* Joe Baca (California)
* John Barrow (Georgia)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Melissa Bean (Illinois)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< she's one on the list
* Marion Berry (Arkansas)
* Sanford Bishop (Georgia)
* Dan Boren (Oklahoma)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Leonard Boswell (Iowa)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Allen Boyd (Florida), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Administration <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Dennis Cardoza (California)
* Christopher Carney (Pennsylvania)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Ben Chandler (Kentucky)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Jim Cooper (Tennessee) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Jim Costa (California) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Bud Cramer (Alabama) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Lincoln Davis (Tennessee) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Joe Donnelly (Indiana) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Brad Ellsworth (Indiana) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
* Kirsten Gillibrand (New York)
* Bart Gordon (Tennessee)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Jane Harman (California)
* Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (South Dakota), Blue Dog Whip <<<<<<<<<< she's on the list
* Baron Hill (Indiana)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Tim Holden (Pennsylvania)
* Steve Israel (New York)
* Nick Lampson (Texas)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Tim Mahoney (Florida)
* Jim Marshall (Georgia)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Jim Matheson (Utah)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Mike McIntyre (North Carolina)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Charlie Melancon (Louisiana)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Mike Michaud (Maine)
* Dennis Moore (Kansas), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Policy
* Patrick Murphy (Pennsylvania)
* Collin Peterson (Minnesota)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Earl Pomeroy (North Dakota)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Mike Ross (Arkansas), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Communications<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* John Salazar (Colorado)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Loretta Sanchez (California)
* Adam Schiff (California)
* David Scott (Georgia)
* Heath Shuler (North Carolina)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Zack Space (Ohio)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* John Tanner (Tennessee)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Gene Taylor (Mississippi)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Mike Thompson (California)
* Charlie Wilson (Ohio)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Democrats

Here's the roll call vote if you want to double check me.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll836.xml


NO VOTES: 9 LOSER Democrats

Becerra
Clarke
Clay
Coble
Crenshaw
Davis, Jo Ann
Delahunt
Goode

Hastert
Hayes
Hinojosa
Hunter
Jindal
Johnson, Sam
Kilpatrick
Klein (FL)

LaHood
Lantos
Paul
Saxton
Skelton
Tancredo
Young (AK)

[Hubert Flottz]

1. Loretta Sanchez, Hubert don't love you no more!

*sniff*

[in_cog_ni_to]

2. Loretta voted NO!!! I was shocked to see her on that list though.

:(

[Hubert Flottz]

4. She voted against the bill?

Okay I see now...Whew...we need to get her out of the dog house though.

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. LOL. I edited my post to maybe make it clearer. I was relieved to see she voted NO, but

VERY disappointed to see she's in that coalition.

[madfloridian]

3. Gillibrand, Giffords and Mahoney are on one or both lists New Dems..

or Blue Dogs. So count them as well. I will check the list I posted.

[in_cog_ni_to]

7. They voted NO. The ones I say are "ON THE LIST" are on the YEA roll call list.

[madfloridian]

14. Well, I guess I misread your post. I saw this....and misunderstood.

NO VOTES: 9 LOSER Democrats

i need to go back and start over.

[madfloridian]

15. Altmire voted yes, he's a New Dem freshman. Snyder, Arkansas

New Dem.

I guess since so many overlap, I think of both groups.

Sorry wasn't meaning to hijack your thread with New Dems.

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. Those are the NO VOTE Dems. The ones who didn't have the time to save our civil liberties.

They didn't even show up or if they did show up, didn't vote at all.:(

[madfloridian]

5. Here's my list. There are more than that.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3426414

[in_cog_ni_to]

9. I marked the BLUE DOGS only. Not the New Dems. How many New Dems voted for it?

[madfloridian]

10. I'm checking and the lists often duplicates.

.

[madfloridian]

19. Found 2 New Dems...Snyder and Altmire

And I saw another, but lost it...will check.

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. THOSE are the 2 we could have won with had the Blue Dogs and No Votes not SCREWED us!

We only would have needed to whip up 2 more votes to win.:grr: They're them.

[Bjornsdotter]

6. Melissa Bean

....what a surprise :sarcasm:

[Tatiana]

11. Illinois can truly do better. UGH. n/t

[Critters2]

12. Zackly.

And Leonard "but if I vote against the pukes I won't get re-elected" Boswell.

Quelle courage.

[sandnsea]

8. You're kidding

Well scrape me off the floor I'm so shocked.

Change Minds, Change Votes. If you don't go into those red rural Blue Dog districts - nothing will ever change. I would bet a substantial number of them match up exactly with the Senators who voted yes too.

[IChing]

17. I mentioned it during the debate--blue dogs and dlc reps

would cause us to lose........Listen they vote as a block get it?

These guys vote as a block to block democrats in many important votes.

[Tatiana]

18. Actually 31.

You're missing Arcuri, I think.

Really disappointing that so many voted for this.

[in_cog_ni_to]

20. I just checked the roll call list again. Arcuri voted No. n/t

[Tatiana]

22. Thanks for the correction. I had him down as a yay.

Still disheartening to see so many Dems vote for this.

[BlooInBloo]

23. 3/4? Primary challenge their asses. Please voters - don't be jackasses like Connecticut.

[rateyes]

24. I knew my DINO Spineless Coward Rep...

Jim Marshall was on the list before I checked it.

Turd that he is.

[in_cog_ni_to]

26. I'm still trying to find out what exactly they have done to help the Dem party?

Honestly. With friends like this, who needs enemies?!

[rateyes]

27. Me too. nt

[Jack Rabbit]

25. My Congressman is a blue dog

And I am pleased to see he's not on the list.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. You'll probably be hearing from me about impeachment again, soon.

[AtomicKitten]

28. get 'em

[madfloridian]

29. A list I found at Daily Kos...

These are the Dems who ... failed us. Who failed our country.

Jason Altmire (4th Pennsylvania)
Melissa Bean (8th Illinois) Blue Dog
Dan Boren (2nd Oklahoma) Blue Dog
Allen Boyd (2nd Florida) Blue Dog
Christopher Carney (10th Pennsylvania) Blue Dog
Ben Chandler (6th Kentucky)Blue Dog
Henry Cuellar (28th Texas)
Artur Davis (7th Alabama)
Lincoln Davis (4th Tennessee) Blue Dog
Joe Donnelly (2nd Indiana) Blue Dog
Brad Ellsworth (8th Indiana) Blue Dog
Bob Etheridge (North Carolina)
Bart Gordon (6th Tennessee) Blue Dog
Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (South Dakota) Blue Dog
Brian Higgins (27th New York)
Baron Hill (9th Indiana) Blue Dog
Nick Lampson (23rd Texas) Blue Dog
Daniel Lipinski (3rd Illinois)
Jim Marshall (8th Georgia) Blue Dog
Jim Matheson (2nd Utah) Blue Dog
Mike McIntyre (7th North Carolina) Blue Dog
Charlie Melancon (3rd Louisiana) Blue Dog
Harry Mitchell (5th Arizona)
Colin Peterson (7th Minnesota) Blue Dog
Earl Pomeroy (North Dakota) Blue Dog
Ciro Rodriguez (23rd Texas) Blue Dog
Mike Ross (4th Arkansas) Blue Dog
John Salazar (3rd Colorado) Blue Dog
Heath Shuler (11th North Carolina) Blue Dog
Vic Snyder (2nd Arkansas)
Zachary Space (18th Ohio) Blue Dog
John Tanner (8th Tennessee) Blue Dog
Gene Taylor (4th Mississippi) Blue Dog
Timothy Walz (1st Minnesota)
Charles A. Wilson (6th Ohio) Blue Dog

I can tell you that almost all the others are New Dems. So those two groups are screwing us and screwing our country.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/8/5/01943/25391