8 yr old girl scalded to death. Stepmother charged. Her daddy was on his way home from Iraq.

[alphafemale]

How terrible. :cry:

I can just imagine how excited the little one must have been.
Daddies are like shining knights to 8 yr olds.

What gets into some people to be so evil?


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[babylonsister]

1. This war does have major side effects, and there are still some very

cruel people in this world. :(

[Sarah Ibarruri]

2. Mental illness has a way of increasing when the economy is bad.

I can talk about this topic for hours but won't.

It also drives ME crazy that there's no way to screen people before they have children. How could just ANYONE have kids? It's so scary that there are kids being had out there by complete WHACKOS and we can do nothing about it.

[liberal renegade]

4. this particular whacko

didn't have this little girl......

[Sarah Ibarruri]

6. She sure did. She was her stepmother.

Anyone who mothers or fathers, should have to go through a rigorous process of psychological and ethical screening. But who's going to do that? The Bible banging perverts like the ones in the White House? That's the problem with screening parental figures. There are some schools that have training programs to teach kids how difficult it is to have babies, but that's about it. I think we need everyone to go through baby, toddler and child rearing programs in school, then, after they get pregnant, they should be screened and any subsequent parental figures should be screened as well. But who's going to do it? I'd be a good judge, I think, but maybe I'm not?

[LisaL]

8. I recall it was nazis who wanted to decide who could have

children and who couldn't.
What are you going to do with those you deem unfit? Forceful sterilization?

[Sarah Ibarruri]

15. I agree with you. Controlling who should have kids is not good....

On the other hand, children are the MOST disabled, the most helpless of humans on the planet. It scares the hell out of me that anyone could do anything to them. :(

[liberal renegade]

10. perhaps you didn't understand what i was saying...

this whackjob didn't give birth to this little girl.....

Your parents have the responsibility to teach parenthood. Baby, toddler and child rearing programs are taught at home, plain and simple.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

16. I did understand you. I'm referring to any caretaker, be it a birth mother, birth father, step

Any sort of person that will be in charge of a child. Some people are completely inept, others have mental problems, and I've seen some total whackos in charge of kids. Terrifying situations out there. It's amazing that so many kids grow up to be adults. However, some grow up to be some really f*cked up adults because of the torture and abuse they underwent.

[alphafemale]

7. Yeah. This is NOT a case of somebody losing it for a moment and hitting a kid.

This took prolonged malice and forethought.

Drawing a scalding tub of water and holding a screaming kid down in it.

Good gawd. :mad:

[liberal renegade]

13. may the punishment fit the crime

slowly lowered into a pot of hot oil.... no point in wasting time or money, just do it......

[tabasco]

14. Yeah, let's become just like the criminal.

I don't want to live in a country that condones torture.

[qanda]

3. There's no way that child put herself in the tub

That woman is such a liar! I hope she never sees the light of day again. Poor baby girl-- may she rest in peace.

[alphafemale]

5. Agreed. A toddler might somehow fall into a tub and not be able to get out.

But an 8 yr old would have to have been HELD down in the water.

She probably also had some defensive marks that made it even more obvious.

[fed-up]

9. father possibly returning from THIRD deployment-maybe step-mom had financial issues

this illegal war is taking a huge toll on families

from the story

Results of the study, announced last Tuesday, showed that mothers were three times more likely to have a substantiated report of child mistreatment when their soldier husbands were deployed than when the fathers were home.

The nonprofit RTI International, of Research Triangle Park, N.C., also concluded that mothers at home were nearly four times as likely to neglect their children and nearly twice as likely to physically abuse them during deployment periods.

Army officials said the study confirms what they've seen at large military bases for nearly two years: overwhelmed and depressed mothers neglecting or abusing their children as a result of the stress that families experience with multiple deployments.

The 3rd Infantry Division, which is based at Fort Stewart, is on its third deployment to Iraq since the war started there in March 2003.

[Darth_Kitten]

22. I could see parents momentarily losing it and snapping........

giving a kid a swat or something, but holding down a kid in scalding water?

That's torture.

[alphafemale]

29. And she had to fill the tub with the water.

So the act was planned, with malice.

I don't like the death penalty.

Hate it, in fact.

But I can't imagine her escaping it.

And I really doubt I'll light a candle for her, if her time ever comes to pat the cost.

[Ilsa]

11. I wonder if the woman was afraid the child was going to rat her out

to the father. I bet this isn't the first real act of cruelty on her part, and the little girl swore she'd tell her dad, so maybe the monster killed her.

[aikoaiko]

12. wow, thats what my wife just said.

My wife said, it sounded like the child was going to tell the father his wife was having an affair.

Unless there is evidence that this woman was mentally delusional and thought she was saving he stepdaughter from the being invaded by aliens (or some such delusion), I'm all for the death penalty if found guilty.

Thanks for posting this story alphafemale -- its good to see active SAV members.

[MissB]

17. I have an 8 year old.

There is no way he'd step in the water without testing it first. No fucking way.

[alphafemale]

25. An 8yr olds sense of self-preservation is pretty hard wired.

And they are just so sweet at that age.

Poor little one.

[LeftishBrit]

18. Poor little thing; may she RIP

I don't believe in the death penalty for anyone but I hope they lock the stepmother up and throw away the key.

[alphafemale]

26. Agree. She can't ever be trusted again.

And, I doubt she'd try anything with anyone big enough to fight back.

Just children and other defenseless people.

I doubt there's anyone in prison she's brave enough to mess with.

[Madspirit]

19. I Just Read

I just read an article in our newspaper, The Austin American Statesman...an AP story...that claimed there is a HUGE surge in child abuse since husbands have gone off to Iraq. It's odd. They have not found the same with husbands who stay home and the wives go to Iraq. It's really odd and contrary to most of what we know about abuse and who abuses. It's like it's own little sociological phenomena. I don't think this has shown in any other war either, which makes it even more odd. I am totally perplexed. War always causes stress for families and Viet Nam certainly was not a popular war either so what is it about THIS war and THESE soldiers, creating this odd behavior.

...and poor little girl. :cry: RIP.

Lee

[SaveAmerica]

20. An army wife called in to c-span one morning to beg that the war

end NOW! She said her own husband had been sent to 3 tours and the stress on him and the family was so huge they couldn't take it anymore. She was strong, you could hear it in her words but her voice was breaking kind of like the strain on the families this war is causing. I don't think any other war had this abuse of soldiers and their families. Four plus years of being called up again and again and then being extended while on a 2nd or 3rd tour. It is inhumane. It's immoral. It should be illegal. The bill that was shot down recently addressed this abuse and was meant to hold up our military like the human beings they are, not keep treating them like unfeeling robots.

[laylah]

21. All I can say is

FUCK ME... :cry: What a tragedy, another notch in *dumbass' headboard. POS!

[Left Is Write]

23. This whole story hurts my heart.

That little girl looks a lot like my own.

[alphafemale]

27. I keep thinking about the father, too.

What a hard moment that must of been.

Just a short way away from a happy reunion, only to have one face you'll never see again and another you never want to.

[MrSlayer]

24. They should do the same thing to her.

Dip her into a vat of boiling oil. This is beyond disgusting.

[Hissyspit]

28. AMA Report: "Child Abuse Goes Up When Army Dads Go To War"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2937309

[Raine]

30. What a cute sweet little girl

she looks to be, how could anyone do such a thing. :cry: