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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:16 PM
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Is it possible our Bushler is "challenged" due to some reason..confirmed or not? Of Course he shows
enough signs and symptoms to warrant such a suspicion.

Many Shrinks have analyzed him in the past with observations of: NPD, Infant Alcohol Syndrome, Bullyness, Abuser...etc

But I suspect the man has had some drug use in the past resulting in a diminished mental capacity. It appears _____ use was involved....look at his demeanor, his sentence structure, his body language...all point to a diminished brain...just like those long term ____ users...

Its gatta be HIS WAY....thats not Leadership...thats a BULLY.....an out of control Bully
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:18 PM
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1. There is something inherently wrong with him - one only needs to watch Letterman's...
..."Great Moments in Presidential Speeches" to see that. Bush can't even string a coherent sentence together.:crazy:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:21 PM
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4. He has a form of a learning disability----is what I read---never confirmed but
susposedly him mom would never acknowledge it, therefore he never got help.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:26 PM
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8. Maybe so but whatever it is, it has gotten a LOT worse the last few years.
Back in 2000 he was nowhere as bumbling and incoherent as lately. I mean he was still an asshole but he didn't come off nearly as nuts as now...
I dunno...
:shrug:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:31 PM
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14. Dementia onset.....worsening by the hour....
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 07:29 PM
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20. see, if you can google on his campaign speeches for gov
when he was running, he was focused and articulate, now, he often looks dazed and confused.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 08:33 PM
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27. He couldn't remember "We won't get fooled again," back in 2000.
I think he has a learning disability that typically would go undiagnosed in the 1950's unless severe. But I also think it is possible that it has gotten alot worse over the last five years. But his learning disability doesn't bother me except for how stupid it makes us all look for letting him hold that job. It's his personality, lack of humility, inability to learn new things, arrogance, attitude of deified supremacy, etc, that bug me.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 11:48 PM
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31. signs of NPD and worse...Delusion
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:30 PM
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12. LD doesn't mean dimished mental capacity
* shows all the signs of being S-L-O-W.

Can't string together two coherent thoughts. Forgets normal vocabulary for a college educated person.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:30 PM
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13. Big time CLUE for me too
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:20 PM
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2. If Our Dem Reps Had Any Courage He'd Be challenged
But they don't

and the little rat fucker has all of his wealth to back him up

Challenged? Of course

But by itself what is that knowledge worth?
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:20 PM
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3. Perhaps he's just a bad person
Edited on Sun Aug-05-07 06:20 PM by C_U_L8R
through and through
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:22 PM
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5. Somebody wrote the the perfect song for the POSadent once
It starts out like this...

Well I was drivin' down I-95 the other night.
Somebody nearly cut me right off the road.
I decided it wasn't gonna do any good to get mad.
So I wrote a song about him instead.

http://www.lyricsandsongs.com/song/319473.html
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:29 PM
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11. Born and Forever an ASSHOLE...BUSH....good one for the bumper stkr guys
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:23 PM
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6. Bush is evidence that someone stupider than Reagan can still be pResident.
The pResident is the political equivalent of an Anchorman newsreader, spouting the lines that are fed to him by his "handlers". Doesn't the very idea that the pResident has "handlers" tell you all you need to know? Rove is one of the palace eunuchs.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:27 PM
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9. Now ya did it....coke all over the keyboard...Rove as a dickless eunuch
now dats funny
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:29 PM
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10. Hey, stop that, I'm serious here ....
:hi:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:33 PM
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15. Should I start calling/referring to him as STUMPY????
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:37 PM
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17. You could call him 'Dickless' but...
that would only apply when Cheee-kneee wasn't around.
:rofl:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 11:52 PM
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32. Watch for Rove to undergo a brain op soon...he knowing too much....that is all
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 11:56 PM
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33. I think Rove is really..
an evil cyborg that lives in the man-sized safe in cheee-kneee's office. :rofl:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 12:04 AM
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36. Yes, it has all the signs of an ALIEN infiltration to make us Humans fight each other
till we have reduced our pop to 2,000,000 or so....enough to be the slaves....
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:24 PM
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7. He is just evil.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:35 PM
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16. Evil as they come....EGO DRIVEN EVIL posing as apple pie/mom
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:42 PM
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18. remember farenheit 911 ?
When he was sitting in the classroom and had just been told about the attacks? He was in a blind panic sitting there waiting for someone to tell him what to do. The kids seemed like they had more going on upstairs than he did.
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 07:32 PM
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21. Belated welcome to DU, angrycarpenter!
:hi: Good to have you here.
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 08:11 PM
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26. And until I saw that movie, I didn't know that he'd already been informed
...about the FIRST plane crashing into the tower. He barely acknowledged it, just went in to read to the children.

I still to this day do not understand how this gutless, clueless fucker, who so obviously was never up to the task his Daddy and SCOTUS stole from him, got the reputation as the tough leader, the dude who we could all turn to and he would save us.

The corporate media is totally to blame for that--as well as sounding the drums to go to Iraq.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 11:44 PM
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29. He had the DEER IN TH ......... look...so sad that of all Americans..he was at the helm
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:46 PM
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19. His speech and manner have deteriorated since the 90s
I've seen some video from when he was running for governor of Texas. He was articulate and appeared to be able to walk without stumbling. It was rather a shock to me, as I had assumed he was always the bumbler he's been since being President. To me it shows a marked deterioration in mental and physical faculties. I do not know what caused this, but I'm wondering if it isn't the result of continuing alcohol and substance abuse.
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zerox Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 07:44 PM
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22. Video of Bush in 94
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 12:09 AM
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37. Ten years ago...he had tons of time to memorize a speech....today, he has hours...
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 07:47 PM
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23. This topic has been discussed many times.
My guess is that he has had minor strokes. That is what the back apparatus is for. He is of average IQ & deviously clever, not a moron as most believe. He is a Silver Spoon Sociopath & an arrogant, ignorant Asshole, as well. He also has skin cancer. Those are what the red blotches on his face are. His father has an advanced case of that.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 08:44 PM
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28. ITA. He wasn't anywhere near as bad as he is now. I suspect that
after he leaves office, we won't see too much of him after a few years, especially when his behavior and speech start goinf downhill really fast. He'll be homebound like Ronald Reagan, I bet. And when he dies, he won't get a memorial like RR's, even from the GOPers.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 12:10 AM
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38. Bushies Haz Waste Facility
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 01:20 AM
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42. you're right about that
we won't see much if any of the chimp when he is gone. he did this for the reward$ in the end, it's obvious that he would rather not have to "work". all this talk from him about his "legacy", lol, he doesn't give a shit.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 11:47 PM
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30. Many others think alike that somehow, somewhere, his brain got addled
with what appears to be an ongoing deteriating situation....

Clearly outta control with unilateral decision making.....
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 07:49 PM
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24. Read John Dean's "Conservatives Without Conscience"...
Edited on Sun Aug-05-07 07:49 PM by ClassWarrior
He makes a strong case that the combination of authoritarian and egotistical qualities results in a dangerous combination, the kind we see in Bush**, Cheney**, Delay, etc.

NGU.


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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 11:58 PM
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34. The desire/obssession to dictate, to Lead, dominate, Control,
to appear all knowing, all seeing, etc feeds the EGO/NPD Factor...

DeLay scares us...he has Lunaresque Ego....
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PoiBoy Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 08:00 PM
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25. We have a sociopath who has his hands on the steering wheel of America...
...and that is a very dangerous thing indeed. - Justin A. Frank, M.D., Author of "Bush on the Couch"


from Jan. 2, 2007
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/interviews/049
Justin A. Frank, M.D., Author of "Bush on the Couch" Gets to the Heart of the Matter: We Have a Sociopath as President

<snip>
We have a sociopath who has his hands on the steering wheel of America -- and that is a very dangerous thing indeed.
<end>

a shocking statement here... in the previous paragraph he states that we need to impeach Bush first and deal with Cheney later if at all... the interviewer states that a lot of people would probably disagree with Dr. Frank, and the Dr. replies...

<snip>
Justin A. Frank, M.D.: A lot of people would disagree with me. I really think that Bush is not competent to be President. He is unconsciously destructive. He is out of touch with his cruelty. He is unable to think clearly when presented with new information. He cannot do it. He cannot read. He cannot pay attention to the Baker-Hamilton Report. He never looked at that report. He looked at the opening title, about a new way forward or something, and that’s what he’s been using as his slogan now. He is not able to process information.

I think Cheney, as much as he is malevolent and destructive and greedy and self-interested as an oil executive and wants absolute power, he’s out front about it. I think that he would have to negotiate in a way that’s different because he can’t not think, whereas Bush doesn’t think.

BuzzFlash: It would certainly bring Cheney out of the shadows and make him accountable. Is that what you’re saying?

Justin A. Frank, M.D.: Yes.
<end>



from 07/27/07:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/27/223520/697
Dr. Justin Frank on Dangers of a Cornered George Bush

<snip>
In the past Bush seems to have bought Cheney’s "analysis" that increased enemy attacks were signs of desperation. Hard as it is to believe that Bush has not learned from that repeated experience, it is at the same time possible to "misunderestimate" one’s capacity for woodenheadedness, particularly with respect to someone with the psychological makeup of our president. He is extraordinarily adept at finding only rose-colored glasses to help him see.

With Cheney egging him on from the wings of the "unitary executive," but Congress no longer bowing to that novel interpretation of the Constitution, Bush will be sorely tempted to lash out in some violent way, if further funding for the war is denied. To do that effectively, he will need senior generals and admirals as co-conspirators. It will be up to them to choose between career and Constitution. All too often, in such circumstances the tendency has been to choose career. Impeachment hearings, though, could encourage senior officers like Admiral Fallon to pause long enough to remember that their oath is to defend the Constitution, and that they are not required to follow orders to start another war in order to stave off political and personal disaster for the president and vice president.
— Justin Frank, M.D.
<end>

Dr. Frank makes the point that impeachment proceedings underway would halt our military commanders from blinding following any BushCo order for any further military action against Iraq or Iran... while it wouldn't preclude a flase flag terra attack against us here at home, it would be a start in slowing down the out of control BushCo war machine...









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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 12:00 AM
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35. Sending cold beer and hot lobsters for your post...T/Y
:toast: :beer:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 12:18 AM
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39. Another psychiatrist's perspective ...
Bush's "delusion": a psychiatrist's perspective
by paul minot
Fri Dec 22, 2006 at 08:55:53 AM PDT

paul minot's diary :: ::

Bush's irrational consideration of a "surge" in the wake of the ISG report--which apparently defies all credible counsel--has begun to generate speculation regarding his sanity. References to Bush's "delusions" have appeared in the MSM (notable on "Scarborough Country") and throughout the blogosphere. As a psychiatrist, I understandably get concerned when I see clinical terminology bandied about in political discourse, and thought it might be of interest to share my own perspective on this question.

First of all, let me state up front that I probably hate Bush as much (or nearly so) as anybody here. I think he has done more damage to our country than Osama Bin Laden ever did, and probably is the manifestation of OBL's most wicked fantasies following 9/11. Frogmarching him to the Hague (along with Cheney, natch) is too good for him. I think the guy is both stupid and evil, and I have no intention of cutting him any slack here. But in the political/clinical tradition of Dr. Bill Frist's school of diagnostics, I have a distinct clinical impression that I think explains most of his visible pathology.

First and foremost, George W. Bush is a Narcissistic Personality Disorder. What this means, mostly, is that he has rather desperate insecurities about himself, and compensates by constructing a grandiose self-image. Most of his relationships are either mirroring relationships--people who flatter him and reinforce his grandiosity--or idealized self-objects--people that he himself thinks alot of, and hence feels flattered by his association. Some likely perform both functions. Hence his weakness for sycophants like Harriet Miers, and powerful personalities like Dick Cheney.

Even as a narcissist, Bush knows he isn't a great intellect, and compensates by dismissing the value of intellect altogether. Hence his disses of Gore's bookishness, and any other intellectual that isn't kissing his ass. Bush knows that his greatest personal strength is projecting personal affability, and tries to utilize it even in the most inappropriate settings. That's why he gives impromptu backrubs to the German Chancellor in a diploamtic meeting--he's insecure intellectually, and tries to make everyone into a "buddy" so he can feel more secure. (Pathetic, isn't it?)

The most disturbing aspect about narcissists, however, is their pathological inability to empathize with others, with the exception of those who either mirror them, or whom they idealize. Hence Bush's horrifying insensitivity to the Katrina victims, his callous jokes when visiting greivously injured soldiers, and numerous other instances. The guy simply has no capacity to feel for others in that way. When LBJ was losing Vietnam, he developed a haunted expression that anybody could recognize as indicative of underlying anguish. For all his faults, you just knew he was losing sleep over it. By the same token, we know just as well that Bush isn't losing any sleep over dead American soldiers, to say nothing of dead Iraqis. He didn't exhibit any sign of significant concern until his own political popularity was sliding--because THAT'S something he can definitely feel.

Which brings us to his recent "delusion". To be blunt, I don't see any indication that Bush has any sort of psychotic disorder whatsoever. The lapses in reality-testing that he exhibits are the sort that can be readily explained by his characterological insensitivity to the feelings and perceptions of others, due to his persistently self-centered frame of reference. By applying Occam's Razor to the question of what is psychologically driving Bush to endorse this "surge", I think it can be readily explained by his narcissism as follows. (Warning: Rampant speculation to follow!)

Bush knows that things aren't going his way in Iraq, and he knows that it is damaging him politically. He also sees that it is likely to get worse no matter what he does, and in fact it may be a lost cause. However, he recognizes that if he follows the recommendations of the ISG, that Iraq will almost certainly evolve into a puppet state of Iran, and given his treatment of Iran he will completely lose control of the situation--and he will be politically discredited for this outcome. The ONLY chance that he has to avoid this political disaster, and save his political skin, is to hope against hope for "victory" in Iraq. Advancing the "surge" idea offers Bush two political advantages over following the ISG recommendations. One is that if it is implemented, maybe, just maybe, he can pull out some sort of nominal "victory" out of the situation. The chances are exceedingly slim, granted, but slim is better to him than the alternative (none). Alternately, if the "surge" is politically rejected, he gains some political cover, so when things inevitably go to shit, he can say "I told you so" and blame the "surrender monkeys" for the outcome. Most people probably won't buy it, but some (his core base) will.

Now, I know what many of you are thinking--is George Bush willing to risk the lives of hundreds, maybe thousands more American soldiers, on an outside chance to save his political skin, in a half-baked plan that even he knows probably won't work at all? Damn straight he is. Because George Bush is that narcissistic, that desperate, and yes, that sociopathic as well.

Anyway, that's MY two bits.

Some more thoughts on this: Narcissistic Personality Disorder is frequently associated with alcoholism. The insufferable "holier than thou" attitude associated with "Dry Drunk Syndrome" is indicative of underlying narcissism.

Also, the way that Bush embraces Christianity is characteristically narcissistic. Rather than incorporating the lessons of humility and empathy modeled by Jesus, Bush uses his Christian faith to reinforce his grandiosity. Jesus is his powerful ally, his idealized "buddy" who gives a rubber stamp to any cockamie invasion he thinks up.

Finally--and this will sound VERY familiar--NPDs are notoriously unable to say they're sorry. Admitting error is fundamentally incompatible with their precarious efforts to maintain their sense of "okayness". Any friend, partner, or family member that has this character flaw almost certainly has NPD.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 01:19 AM
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41. Mahalo too much TN...that was good read....
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 12:21 AM
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40. I wonder if he has tertiary syphillis, the egomaniacal thing combined with the
increasing inability to string a sentence together are suspicious.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 01:22 AM
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43. Syph has meds....Brain damage to long term use ...has no meds. Once fucked up, always fucked up
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