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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 07:46 AM Original message |
Very Hard Truth -- If You Want To Live In A Free Society Some People Will Die From Terrorist Attacks |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. Caller on CSPAN WJ just said '(Dems) don't want to keep us safe'.... |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
20. give me liberty or give me.............. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
2. further, Life is not a theme park... |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 07:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. People die occasionally in theme parks too. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 08:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. very true... I use "theme park" as a metaphor because |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #8 |
41. Theme park accidents in the last 5 years |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. excellent point and one I was gonna make |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 08:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Educate |
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Mark Twain Girl (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
30. Eek! That's good... America as a theme park rather than a constitutional republic -- well put. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
58. exactly... and thanks... |
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USA_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
3. "Terrorism" |
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UnrepentantUnitarian (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 08:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. The President's oath of office... |
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UnrepentantUnitarian (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
5. Me too, Jack! |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
7. If you want to live with cars, even MORE people will die every year in car accidents |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
9. And if you want to drive, some people will die in accidents. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
10. Considering we're more likely to be killed by an avalanche than by terrorists... |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
12. ironic that so many of them have no problem understanding this principle when it comes to |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 08:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Yes, they are all for everyone packing an Uzi... |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 08:33 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. and don't forget the Free market ability to sell arms overseas |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
48. Possession of an actual Uzi is a 10-year felony under current law... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
52. Right wingers understand this principle when it comes to economics, too |
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darnelljohnson (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
15. Terrorism is a useful device to scare us... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
16. Some people seem to think "security" is living in a walled compound. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
17. K&R...Good Point... |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
18. Very Hard Truth -- There are no "Terrorists" and there never were any. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Bingo n/t |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. There are people who commit crimes specifically to instill terror. Saying there are no terrorists |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. There are no "Terrorists" and there are "terrorist acts" |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
19. Do neglected hurricane victims count? |
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dkofos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
22. Live free or DIE |
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Sadie4629 (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
23. Are you saying terrorism isn't so bad? |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. No, the OP is saying Freedom is worth a little terror. |
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Sadie4629 (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Well, much as I hate all the airport security-- |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. I don't thnk airport security is the issue at all.. Habeus Corpus, and warrantless wiretapping are. |
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Sadie4629 (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. And I agree with you |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Not there yet, and won't ever be, as long as some of us resist. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
59. What common sense sacrifices are those? |
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dalaigh lllama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-08-07 07:28 AM Response to Reply #31 |
62. The last "common sense" sacrifice I made at an airport |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Gee, nice straw man. -nt |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
24. terra terra!!! |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
28. And in an unfree society, people will still die from terrorist attacks. |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Exactly. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
33. There is a very noticeable sliding scale of security v. freedom... |
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Sadie4629 (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. What about Israel |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. I absolutely believe it |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
37. Even if you don't live in a free society.. |
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mikelgb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
38. And I am ok with that |
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rubberducky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
40. Your post is right on!! |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
42. If you don't, you can always die from bridge collapses, levee failures, and lack of healthcare |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
43. K & R |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
44. I'm with you, Jack |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Every Constitutional Right given up, no matter how small, is very difficult to reacquire... |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
47. Shit happens. If you live in fear of terrorist attacks, you aren't living |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
49. A LOT of people are dying of POVERTY and lack of HEALTH CARE. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
50. I agree 100%. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
51. What I've been saying even since 911 |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
53. It's a false choice anyway |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
55. If you live in a free society that doesn't abuse other societies |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
56. That is so completely untrue |
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kcass1954 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
57. I'm willing to accept that I might die in a terrorist attack. |
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Jack Sprat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
60. There is much truth in this. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-08-07 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
61. This truth is not very hard. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-08-07 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
63. Potentially. But steps can be taken to minimize that threat... |
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