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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 02:43 PM
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China's decreasing female population
From MSNBC http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5953508

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BEIJING - China is asking where all the girls have gone.

And the sobering answer is that this vast nation, now the world's fastest-growing economy, is confronting a self-perpetuated demographic disaster that some experts describe as "gendercide" -- the phenomenom caused by millions of families resorting to abortion and infanticide to make sure their one child was a boy.
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Looks like their male superiority complex is getting the best of them. Have fun trying to create more of them with no women.

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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 02:44 PM
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1. One way of having . . .
. . . population control in a country with over a billion people.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 02:47 PM
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2. Well, that's ONE way to eventually decrease the population.....
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 02:48 PM
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3. I thought this would cause women to be more valued
but I don't think it has--women in India, where they also use abortion for gender selection (though it is now illegal, it still goes on), girl babies are still not considered as "good" as boy babies.
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 11:26 PM
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19. Yeah, their "value" shot up. Now they're sold instead of being given away with a dowry.
A shortage of women doesn't necessarily mean a misogynistic society will see the light, unfortunately.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 08:02 AM
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23. One area where it has helped women in China
is that the families that do have girls treat them very well. In the past, if a family had 10 kids - 5 boys and 5 girls, the 5 boys would get all the focus of the family for education, money for college, etc. (you have to pay to go to high school & lower schools in China)

Now, if a family has one child and it is a girl, the whole family will focus on that one child.

So, you will find a lot of professional career-oriented women in China that are in their 20s and 30s - doctors, scientists, engineers, rising business executives, etc. - that will not give up their careers when they have a baby. And, you'll also find that married men in China do a lot more housework than married men in the US (except men that have Chinese wives here...)

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Crayson Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 08:08 AM
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24. yes, they are now a rare commodity...
I wonder when abductions start... forced marriages... slavery.
Just because there are fewer women doesn't mean they suddenly have a saying about what happens to them. I think quite the opposite.
The less women are around to more power is in male hands.
Sad reality.

The "good" thing about all that.
Nature will correct the human mistakes. The male population will decimate itself.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 02:51 PM
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4. Men: Are you bored? Lonely? Then join the Chinese People's Liberation Army!
What the hell else are all those unattached males going to do?

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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 03:01 PM
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10. Become Terrorists
In one way, or another...
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 04:18 PM
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17. They can either have sex with other men or with themselves
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 02:52 PM
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5. I believe between their testosterone surplus and
global warming melting the mountain glaciers; which feed their rivers, the chances of them going to war in the not too distant future is all but certain.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 03:01 PM
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9. Hopefully not with us
I also think it's a bad idea to mess with the natural flow of life like that. Not that they aren't doing that to their natural environment as well but overall nobody knows the long term outlook to this.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 03:19 PM
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13. I don't believe with us, not directly anyway,
Edited on Tue Aug-07-07 03:20 PM by Uncle Joe
more likely other Asian neighbors. There will be wars over water, when the rivers dry up, there will be no choice, people will go crazy, when they're dying of thirst. I don't know this for certain of course, but current trends and the dynamics seem dire to me. When global warming hits the fan, it will be like nothing we've ever known before.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 02:54 PM
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6. It's not that big a disaster
Compared to the disaster that would occur if the countries population growth continued.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 03:03 PM
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11. Well, since a man can father so many more babies than a woman can mother,
why don't we just kill all the men for population control. /sarcasm
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 03:25 PM
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14. I know you're being sarcastic, but,
A relative shortage of females would have a greater impact on the population than a shortage of males would.
If there's only one woman in a village, the number of potential fathers doesn't matter, she's only going to have a limited amount of offspring.
If there's only one man in a village, with 30 women, he could be the father of 100+ children.

As despicable as the situation is in places like China, at least it's making a dent in population growth.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 11:09 PM
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18. You're right and I was just being a smart aleck.
This topic just makes me sooooooo angry!
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 02:56 PM
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7. I was listening to NPR a while back.
The speaker was talking about the shortage of eligible Chinese women, and that many Chinese men get mail-order brides from sotheast Asian countries.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 02:58 PM
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8. Hey, Repubs: How d'ya like Wal-Mart now, eh? nt
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flyingfysh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 03:07 PM
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12. Russia had the opposite problem
Russia had many millions of women who were unable to find anyone to marry. Too many men had been killed by the Nazis in World War II.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 03:59 PM
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15. And right-wing American men get mail order brides.
Because American wimmen are too ornery and uppity. So they get some submissive desperate woman from Asia or Russia or some place other than America.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 04:07 PM
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16. Believe me, you can't get much of a woman ...
... into a Number 10 envelope. :silly:

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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 07:55 AM
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21. they're living in a fantasy world
if they think these mail order brides from Russia or China are going to be "submissive" for them and good little homemakers who stay barefoot & pregnant in the kitchen.



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The Vinyl Ripper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 07:47 AM
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20. Unmarried males..
Are far less socially stable than married ones.

This will be a disaster for China in ways other than the immediately obvious ones.

Violence and other crimes will soar.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 07:56 AM
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22. "BEIJING - China is asking where all the girls have gone. "
Dead or in orphanages you morons. Did these people not fucking realize if you abort and abandon one entire gender then there won't be any future generations?

They value their maleness so fucking much, let them wallow in a life without a partner now.

No pity from me, they deserve it for thinking so little of my gender that killing baby girls wasn't given a second though. Just females right? Not worth anything so why let them live?

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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