Edwards did poorly tonight...

[jefferson_dem]

say Tweety and his guests Willie Brown and Eugene Robinson.

Obama did particularly well, they argue.

Tweety opened up with some line about Hillary as "majestic"... And Pat Buchanan says Hillary won the debate.

Oh, and Dennis really stood out, stealing thunder from Edwards.

[itsrobert]

1. BULLCRAP. Yeah, these guys are really "fair and balance"

Just like Fox News.

[Booster]

13. Agreed. Just points out how much afraid they are of Edwards.

[Cameron27]

2. I thought Buchanan said Kucinich won it.

[Connie_Corleone]

6. He said Hillary won. He said Kucinich did well.

[Cameron27]

9. Oh, I missed that, thanks.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

3. Oh good...

We have now heard from the medication non-compliant Bipolar 1 and Histrionic Personality Disorder lobbies.

[Connie_Corleone]

4. Of course Hillary wins by just standing there.

[sandnsea]

5. I guess against Kucinich

I can see their point. But Edwards did okay too. Of course, they're always going to kowtow to Hillary. I guess they think we're stupid and haven't been paying attention to the diasters their policies ended up creating.

[Robbien]

7. Did you really expect them to say anything different

Can't image MSM having to deal with a presidential candidate whose policies center on the working class.

They won't have it.

[NoodleyAppendage]

8. Corporate Whores doing everything they can to destroy populist message.

Edwards doesn't stand a chance against the media bias.

J

[Inspired]

11. WE vote, not the media.

We have the power. Please don't ever forget that.

[Donnachaidh]

10. Hillary DIDN'T win the debate

But listening to these overblown *experts* you'd think she'd just crapped a golden egg. :eyes:

Guess they didn't hear the BOOS from the audience. :shrug:

[Connie_Corleone]

12. It's amazing, isn't it? Hillary has done better in prior debates.

But I don't think she did that well tonight. She was okay.

[girl gone mad]

14. And then Matthews calls Edwards...

short and small.

Give me a break already. It's bad enough when they do it to Kucinich.

[JackBeck]

15. Many of these talking head shows also said Bush won debates.

Against Gore and Kerry.

'Nuff said.

[Lex]

18. Exactly.

Excellent point. :thumbsup:

[JackBeck]

33. Thank Jeebus for Air America and progressive blogs.

I finally stopped watching those shows around 2000.

[karynnj]

26. They spun the debates in 2000

concentrating on Gore's signs instead of Bush's lame answers.

In 2004, Kerry was absolutely stunningly good in the first debate - they gave up trying to spin it. Kerry actually won all three. (The Bush gaffe of forgetting that he had said he didn't think of OBL was caught by everyone.) Kerry was afterall the Yale debate champ for the years he was in college, contributing to Yale having an exceptional record those years.

[JackBeck]

34. If you haven't read it already, you will definitely enjoy "The Assualt on Reason".

He nails how much we are manipulated by the media into believing things that aren't true. And I love how he constantly points out one of the reasons is because you can't have a conversation with your T.V.!

[karynnj]

38. I have it - but haven't read it yet

I am sure I will agree with most of it. I did not like Gore when he ran in 1988 and wasn't enthusiastic in 2000, but adversity has greatly improved him. (but I've only been really enthusiastic twice - McGovern and Kerry.)

[Lex]

16. Edwards must've done very well, considering the pundits bashing him.

nt

[Dawgs]

17. I can't believe what I'm hearing.

Not once did these clowns mention the boos Hillary received for her answer.

No wonder she's leading in the polls. The media is spinning this for Hillary. I guess her getting the nom will really help the ratings.

[Lex]

20. Wait until the voters get to pull the lever instead of hear Tweets

and crew.

They will trashing Edwards even harder than ever then.

[MethuenProgressive]

19. Edwards? Mike Dukakis, without the gravitas.

He's becoming increasingly irrelevant. Mike Dukakis, in short pants.
I thought Dennis did well, Obama and Clinton stood above the crowd.

[Lex]

22. Hey, Tweety and those like him who think Bush won the debates

against Kerry agree with you.

[MethuenProgressive]

27. Is that the official comeback?

It appears that the Edwardians can only cut & paste, and are incapable of thinking for themselves.
Much like their candidate.

[Lex]

28. LOL! Exactly like your "Edwards was so bad. He's a lightweight."

Same old, same old.

I was just pointing out that you're in good company with your 'analysis.'

Cope.

[MethuenProgressive]

29. Right... because there's a "plot" against Johnny...

There isn't a plot. He's just nothing more than an ex-Senator and failed VP candidate.
Cope with that fact.

[Lex]

30. I didn't say there was a plot. WTF?

I just said Tweety and his idiotic pro-Bush pundits agree with you.

[Peregrine Took]

32. Dukakis had "gravitas"??? You gotta be kidding. He was a boring policy wonk

[AndyA]

21. Edwards did fine. He made his points.

Hillary, on the other hand, didn't answer some of the questions asked of her. Like the one about lobbyists, and why they make so much money. Oh, she beat the ever lovin' hell out of the bush on that one, but NEVER came close to answering the question.

I hope others are smart enough to notice that as well. How much campaign money has Hillary collected from the big lobbyists I wonder?

[Ilsa]

23. Chris Mathew's crowd thought there were only 3 candidates there.

i don't think they even bothered listening to anyone other than COE (Clinton Obama Edwards).

[VolcanoJen]

24. Tweety, obsessed with sex and imagery

He's so damned predictable, isn't he?

His first comment after the debate was something to the effect of, "John Edwards didn't have a commanding presence tonight. Is it because he's a small man? Seriously, he's physically small."

What in the....?????? What the hell is that supposed to mean?

[HomerRamone]

35. I stopped watching right then nt

[thatsrightimirish]

25. Hillary did well in other debates, but not this one

She didn't defend her being on the Forbes Business loves Hillary Magazine and got booed on her comments regarding Pakistan. When you are booed by the audience I think it is a sign that you did not win.

[B Calm]

31. Dennis K. won the debate and Edwards came in a close second.

That is what I saw and I'm Edwards supporter!

[Colobo]

36. He didn't connect that much with the crowd.

[NotGivingUp]

37. I agree. I've said I would only vote for Kucinich, but I think Edwards is now my backup. n/t

[napi21]

39. I don't think Edwards did anything GREAT tonight.

I guess his spft spoken nature, but I was really hoping he would excell and he just didn't.

[Colonel Bat Guano]

40. I haven't seen the debate yet....

...and I'm not making a personal crack about this thread starter... (This goes for all Hilary, Edwards, Obama, Kucinich, Clark and so on supporters....)

...but I have to say that any time I see a thread started that takes a swipe at a Dem candidate....and that same thread starter has a sig line that endorses a different Dem candidate...

...I tend to run in the other direction.

I don't know, Edwards may have done poorly tonight. I haven't seen it yet. Can't argue on the facts, you saw it, I didn't. But when the sig line for one candidate is bigger than the post above slamming another candidate, then I start to feel like I'm being spun.

I know, debate is important here as it is among the candidates. But any time (and I'm talking about all of you who are cheerleaders for one candidate) a thread is started to slam a candidate by a member who is very much an advocate for another candidate, I tend to believe it less rather than more.

[napi21]

41. That's true of course. Watch the debate if you can. It reruns at

midnight here in the east. Make your own decision.