What the FUCK is up with the Edwards bashing by Matthews & co.?!?

[GaYellowDawg]

I thought Edwards did a great job! And Edwards a physically small man? What the hell is fucking Matthews' problem with Edwards? First the "Breck girl" shit and then a small man?

DAMN, what a panel of shitheads!!

[Ian David]

1. Did it take until tonight for you to realize Tweety is a giant douche? n/t

[GaYellowDawg]

12. Of course not!

I wouldn't insult a douche that way, and it's not the first time I've wanted to reach through the screen and throttle that piece of shit - I'm just venting!

[Inspired]

2. No kidding! I can't believe I'm hearing this shit. n/t

[Connie_Corleone]

3. I guess it's Edwards' turn. They decided to take a break from bashing Obama.

[liberalmuse]

4. It's Matthews. 'Nuf said.

Really, someone needs to up his dose of Ritalin. I mean, can HE TALK ANY LOUDER? I don't think Malaria makes you deaf.

[liberalmuse]

10. And Kucinich becomes choppped liver in this lame analysis.

Buchanan? Matthews? What a fucking joke. I mean, Buchanan admires Hitler and Matthews wants to lick Bush's codpiece.

[saracat]

5. Because they are afraid of Edwards! Tweety never called Bush a "small man" and he is!

[Captain Hilts]

14. I could not believe that comment. Really couldn't. nt

[Neecy]

26. f'sure

In fact, I'm guessing that Edwards is taller than Bush.

[Lasher]

41. You have guessed correctly, Edwards is taller than Junior.

According to USA Today John Edwards is 6 feet tall and Junior is 5 feet 11.75 inches.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-10-04-vp-debate_x.htm

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-06-23-bush-kerry-cover_x.htm

Average height for adult males in the USA is 5 feet 9.2 inches.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height#Average_adult_height_around_the_world

[Poiuyt]

45. Both of those numbers might be inflated

http://www.celebheights.com/s/George-W-Bush-467.html

Supposedly, John Edwards drivers license has him listed as 6'0, but people who have stood next to him say about 5'11. Bush is also closer to 5'11 these days.

In any event, Edwards is not a small man.

[Lasher]

50. Yep

Whitehouse.gov lists Junior as 5 feet 11. Realizing there are inconsistencies I decided to go with USA Today as a common source.

The main point I wanted to make was, Edwards is actually taller than average. This is true even if he is actually only 5' 11" as you have speculated.

I cited the 5' 9.2" average in Wiki but I have been told all my life that it is 5' 10". It's easier to link to Wiki than it is to what I've been told.

[Poiuyt]

53. At 5'11, Edwards would certainly not be considered a small man

He may not be like Obama or Kerry, but still. What a silly thing for Matthews to say.

I've always heard that 5'9 is average for men. I know that well because I'm 5'10. :)

[Lasher]

55. Hey, I'm the same height as you!

And every inch is twisted steel and sex appeal. :-)

Well, Mrs. Lasher tells me that. I think she's making fun of me.

[saracat]

59. Well, I have stood next to Edwards and my DH and both are 6 ft. Their heads were equal.

Nuff said.I stood between them and am 5'7.Both are a lot taller tham me in heels!

[surfermaw]

49. Was it Keith O. that said he isn't a small man

Someone made the statement, he isn't a small man!

[Lasher]

51. Can't tell you, I didn't watch.

Had to work on my mother's computer.

[Individualist]

6. MSM demands that Hillary be the nominee

[Timbuk3]

52. That's exactly right

You're not such a dumb hillbilly.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

7. Edwards needs to go head-on at Tweety for this one.

In Karate, some of the best ass kickers I have ever seen have been small. In the SEALS, the small guys are usually incredibly nasty pieces of work.

If I were Edwards, I would just call Tweety out. Ask him what his problem is and if he would like to take it outside.

[The Backlash Cometh]

38. Is calling a man small, as inappropriate as calling a woman fat?

[TheFarseer]

46. yeah, pretty much n/t

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

54. What does it matter?

After all, Dear Leader is an intellectual and ethical midget. You don't hear much out of the pundits about that.

Christ, I know a few Okinawan karate masters these bozos should deride, to their faces, about being "small". They wouldn't hurt 'em, just tie them into pretty bows, in the blink of an eye.

[eridani]

63. And aikido!

Rod Kobayashi looks like a beachball, and is 5'2". He'd be more than capable of throwing Tweety across the room.

[The Backlash Cometh]

66. Well, since the networks are all about making money, maybe we

pitch this as the next celebrity event.

[eridani]

62. Exactly.

Fat women take huge pay cuts for extra pounds, and this kicks in well before it is ever a problem for men. With men it's height--the shorter you are, the more you lose financially.

[LSparkle]

8. I am SO sick of all this "let's crown Hillary" b.s.

GE obviously wants her but do they have to be so PERSONALLY insulting to Edwards in the process of anointing her? I'm just SICK TO DEATH of it.

Tweety and all the Beltway insiders just want the STATUS QUO, which she represents. They want the same crew of people to be at their cocktail parties, in the Capitol gyms, in the restaurants, etc. Either Obama or Edwards would definitely bring in a new crew -- they just want the same old same old fucking bunch of people.

WE NEED CHANGE!!!!!

[Captain Hilts]

Ignore them. nt

[Robbien]

9. Matthews is paid to make sure that either Clinton or Obama win

They have their marching orders. No middle class issues are to be front and center in this presidential campaign.

Corporatist issues only.

[Dawgs]

24. You obviously aren't paying attention if think Matthews is for anyone but Hillary.

[Robbien]

28. Okay, I'll give you that, but for the other MSM pundits

(except KO of course) my statement holds true.

[itsrobert]

11. 1 commentator has already endorsed Obama and the other endorsed Hillary

The odd man out is John Edwards. Did you think Pat Buchannan would come to his defense? lol

[Lex]

13. Edwards must've done really well, hence the bashing.

Remember how Tweety salivated over Bush when he stupidly declared "Mission Accomplished" in an idiotic flight costume?

Tweety is a dumbass.

[polichick]

15. Matthews seems jealous of...

EVERYBODY!

[Donnachaidh]

16. Edwards scares the crap out of these Kaiser Funded talking heads

Did you notice the amount of Kaiser adverts during the debates? These fatmouths are paid to rip into anyone with a universal health plan.

[LSparkle]

17. I hope Bonior and Axelrod KICK ASS in the post-forum ...

They should both just talk completely over Wolfson.

[Colobo]

21. Wolfson is SLEAZY

[Justitia]

18. They're completely full of shit. ALL the dems did well tonight, even if Biden was a bit annoying.

[Colobo]

Biden was annoying. He came off as a prick.

[Colobo]

22. Dupe.

[texpatriot2004]

19. Edwards did do a great job. The spin is all wrong...as usual. nm

[MasonJar]

20. What has size got to do with character and intelligence? I didn't see it

but I get the drift. I'll never forget the debates in 04 when Kerry and Bush were up on the stage. Kerry towered over the little weasel. (My abject apologies to weasels.)

[girl gone mad]

32. Isn't it funny how it never came up..

back then?

[autorank]

23. It's called "corporate media"...Tweetie is on the bonus plan.

He gets rewarded, I'm sure, for trashing the populist guy.

Happened with Gore in 2000 - Kerry 2004 - why be surprised?

Do something about it. Make sure Edwards gets the nomination or if another candidate gets it
who will do something like Gore or Dennis, then support them.

You notice that Obama made one of the truly great blunders of a primary campaign. He threatened
to attack a country that's critical and also on the verge of an attempted takeover by really nasty
people who would use that nation's nuclear bomb to threaten us and others, at the least. His
comment might, probably wound not but might, have destablised things and poof! We've got al Qaeda
controlled government in Pakistan with the bomb. NOW THAT'S REALLY STUPID.

But did Obama get it form MSM. Nope. The same reason Hillary doesn't really get it.
They're "easy to dance to. Edwards isn't.

If Gore gets it, expect WWIII because Gore will fight back viscously this time. Hope Edwards calls
for "busting the network trusts" very soon.

[NotGivingUp]

25. I've been down on all the candidates except Kucinich, and I thought Edwards did an excellent job.n/t

[tech3149]

27. You've got to understand, that's his job

His corporate masters already decided who the front runners should be and who the toughest opponent would be. It's his job to sell the story line and shoot down any viable candidate. That would mean dissing Edwards and ignoring Kucinich. Understand one thing, any progressive or populist candidate has to win two battles, that is against the opposition party and the media. It sucks to always be swimming upstream.

[feistydem]

29. Edwards won it, IMO

Tweety can't handle that kind of intellect and honesty. He likes the "duh" candidates. Besides he's waiting for Fred to enter. He's always been an ass-kisser to celebs.

On an aside... I sure didn't miss Growling Gravel!

[Canuckistanian]

30. The fix is in - Hillary is the hero, Edwards is the spawn of Satan

It's the new "media party" directive.

And Obama is acceptable as a substitute for Clinton but Kucinich shall not be mentioned.

Al the rest are for comic relief.

[Peregrine Took]

31. He did a great job. The morons in the media want the BIG HORSE RACE

between Hillary Clinton and any rethug. Makes their job easier.

[EV_Ares]

33. Because Hillary supposedly has such a huge lead, he wants to be

on the Hillary bandwagon now. Wants her to like him. He is a douche & everything else, went from lambasting her to now praising her.

[Ikonoklast]

34. GE wants Hillary, Tweety spouts company line

They know Hillary will play ball with the corporations, they are buying her one donation at a time.

And she admitted it tonight.

[porphyrian]

35. The media sees him as a threat to the people they're trying to frame as our candidates for us. -n/t

[HowHasItComeToThis]

39. BINGO FOR YOU, REMEMBER THEY CREATED BUSH

TRUE TO FORM

[jazzjunkysue]

36. Fear. n/t.

[The Backlash Cometh]

37. He's going to try to tip this election, like he did with Gore-Bush in 2000.

I say we start boycotting the son of a bitch.

[Lasher]

47. I'm way ahead of you on that.

I wrote Tweety off when he got a woodie over Junior's sunny nobility in his soldier and cowboy costumes.

[Zomby Woof]

40. The powers that be

Do NOT like poverty as a pet issue. Edwards threatens the status quo much more than the frontrunners do. I fully expect the talking blobs to go after him.

[Glimmer of Hope]

42. I think they see as the biggest threat and will do what they can to minimize

and criticize him. I think Mathews has also made comments about Gore's weight. He is a childish bore.

[spooked]

43. Must be in the Talking Points! I caught Rush calling Edwards

effeminate today...

[TheFarseer]

44. three people is too complicated

they need to narrow it to two as soon as possible.

[killbotfactory]

48. They don't take kindly to people insulting their corporate overlords.

[Alizaryn]

56. Matthews is getting weirder and weirder

I've noticed. His recent drooling over the Obama and hillary campaign song singers was the latest weirdness. He picks on anyone who isn't Hillary. On another note ... wasn't it GREAT that Olbermann got the chance to moderate rather then Matthews??

[K8-EEE]

57. I SAID THE EXACT SAME THING!!! WTF!!

Thanks for making me not feel crazy, I was like, WHAAAAA???? I thought he did GREAT on a lot of the questions, what a put-up job that "analysis" was!!!

[KaptBunnyPants]

58. He did well with his time.

Kucinich stole the show. The talking heads are political hacks, as always. Look this is Willie Brown, an awful human being and disgrace to the Party, Pat holocaust denier Buchanan, and Chris "I have a mancrush on all Republicans" Matthews. They do what their masters tell them to, which is currently to attack Edwards. Their fear of him is interesting. I guess the establishment sees him as the greatest threat to the awful status quo.

[wisteria]

60. I have not candidate in this race, but I heard Tweety's comments and thought they were

wrong. It seems there always has to be a punching bag for the media to smack around. Tonight, it was Edwards, maybe because he has had strong support from unions and Tweety thought it was a way to highlight the other candidates.

[Lugnut]

61. I turned it off

I wanted to hear what Keith had to say but Tweety nauseates me too much.

[Norrin Radd]

64. Everyone looks small compared to the size of Tweety's melon.

[radfringe]

65. if you can't attack someone based on substance and issues

then you go after his hair or other insignificant things

perhaps tweety should host a different show, instead of hard ball, he can have a show featuring fashion and cosmetic consultants.

[mdmc]

67. chris matthews is a neo-con

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

68. I could only stomach Tweety for about 35 minutes after the

debate was over. He's a shill for GE nothing more. He was completely condscending to Keith Olbermann as well.

Howard Wolfson, Hillary's spokesman, was an asshat as well. Very smug and kept interrupting whenever Bonior or Axelrod were trying to make a point. He reminded of the right-wingers that Tweety always has on his show for "balance". I've never been big fan of Hillary's, but Wolfson's performance last night just made me even more sure of the way I feel about her.

[mdelaguna2000]

69. Wow it's nice to read that others thought the exact same thing!

Tweety is so not worth watching.