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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:58 PM
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The pundits say that Edwards lost! I can't believe we watched the same debate
Tweety and company are mostly calling it for Hillary and that the biggest loser was Edwards. Look, I haven't made a decision yet on who I'm supporting, but I thought that John Edwards had a very good night. I actually thought they all did relatively well, but I thought that Edwards really shined. It seems to me that the media wants this to be a two person race: Clinton and Obama.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:00 PM
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1. The pinheads have their marching orders.
John Edwards must be stopped.

Now, prove me wrong.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:04 PM
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10. Edwards wants unions strengthened and universal health care
and fair not free trade.

Now why would coporatist pundits not support that? </end sarcasm>

Of course the pundits back Hillary.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:01 PM
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2. I was watching at work and need to watch the repeat
I had to mute my TV and I know I missed a couple of his longer responses.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:01 PM
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When and where is repeat?
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:05 PM
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11. Midnight ET/9PM PT on MSNBC
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:17 PM
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13. Thank you.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:01 PM
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3. Tweety would say Hillary won
If she'd shown up in her bathrobe, spoken in tongues and shot a cameraman. Tweety has already made up his mind.

I had to change the channel.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:01 PM
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4. Their script was written weeks ago. Do you actually think they would let anyone but Hillary 'win'??
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:01 PM
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5. I think they all did well
and as a Kucinich supporter both now and in 2004 I'm pleased that he might be getting a little more exposure - but I call it BULL SHIT that Hillary WON BIG TIME - the MSM want her to be the Dem nominee there is no doubt in my mind and that can be for two reasons only - because she is the most likely to lose against the repunk OR she won't be too much different than what we have now...
I really believe this - Hillary sounded great to me tonight - but I DO NOT TRUST HER and wonder where she was for the YEARS before she actually started her campaign....
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:09 PM
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12. I agree with you -- I want her to answer for all the healthcare/pharma $
I believe "Sicko" more than her explanations re her campaign donors. And it bothers the heck out iof me that Bill is friendly with the BFEE ... You can't lie down with dogs and not pick up fleas.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:19 PM
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14. OH MY GOD
I HATED seeing the Big Dog with Pappa Bush so often in the past - don't think it happens so much lately but it literally MADE ME EFFING SICK!!!! I'm really a bit sad because I have been a feminist ALL my life I mean really since I was about 4 - and I have wanted a woman President ALL MY LIFE - and I so don't trust her - and I'm not even sure I can vote for her - I know I will if she is the nominee but she just ain't the one - I'm surprised her finger isn't chaffed from holding it in the air so much to see which way the wind is blowing....I wish she truly stood for something other than election.....
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:02 PM
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6. They had their winner and loser picked out before they went to bed last night
Pundits are all shit.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:02 PM
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7. he did not lose but he didn't win, Kucininch won the night imo.
Edward's seems the most engaged when he speaks about health care, same with Kucinich when he talks about labor.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:22 PM
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15. He didn't lose, but I thought he'd have the union crowd
behind him more than he did. Hillary didn't do as well as she's done in other debates, and I didn't think Obama was really on tonight either. Maybe the heat got to them.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:26 PM
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16. with Edwards and Kucinich you can hear the--and i hate to say sincerity but
for lack of a better word thats what i got when they talk about certain issues, health care, labor the war, when i hear HRC or Obama talk i never get to hear what issues they feel really passionately about, thats not to say i don't like them but i don't hear the same sincerity that i hear from the some of the others.
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:02 PM
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8. I can't believe they watched the same debate
either. I think Kucinich did the best with Edwards a close second. Clinton and Obama didn't hurt themselves but then neither did anyone else. I would be proud to have any of them as my president.
-Undecided that thinks it is way to early to be decided.





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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:03 PM
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9. They have decided they don't want him to win...which makes him look much better in my eyes! n/t
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:38 PM
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17. Tweety later said that we were watching "Presidential history" when Edwards talked about UHC and Pen
Edited on Tue Aug-07-07 08:39 PM by jsamuel
tions.

I think they know who really won.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:42 PM
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18. I thought the same thing after the Bush/Gore debates.
You know--my God, they weren't even CLOSE. Bush was clearly a moron with only the most superficial understanding of the issues and a few catchphrases he kept going back to again and again (remember "fuzzy math"?). Yet the talking heads called both of the debates I watched a draw, more or less. Based on--get this--body language. And the fact that Gore couldn't help rolling his eyes and sighing at Bush's inability to grasp the subject matter. In my view, the networks do their viewers a grave disservice by allowing the pundits to express their dumbass opinions about who won or lost. Shut the fuck up and let the viewers decide, pundits, because you obviously don't know shit.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:48 PM
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19. We just need to make it clear that the media is acting like propagandists.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 10:38 PM
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20. i was there, the hometown kids were the winners
just going by the screaming and cheering- #1-barack, #2-hill, edwards and dk helped themselves, but did not kill. richardson treads water. did talk about energy and the environment. biden and dood should just go home.

but- draft al gore.
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