"Blind Taste Test" Presidential Poll has Majority Favoring Kucinich!

[spooked]

http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/48727689_dennis_kucinich_dennis_kucinich_survey_public_attitudes_makes_kucinich_frontrunner

CLEVELAND, OH – In the political equivalent of a “blind taste test” taken by more than 67,000 participants, an independent website surveying public attitudes on various issues is reporting that Ohio Congressman and Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich is the first choice of a phenomenal 53% of respondents.

No other candidate, Democrat or Republican, even reaches double digits.

The website (http://www.dehp.net/candidate/ ) has been asking respondents to express and rank their opinions on 25 different issues – the war in Iraq, health care, the environment, Patriot Act, etc. -- that have been raised and debated among the Presidential candidates in both parties. Those taking the survey vote only on the issues, not for or against any individual candidate.

As of this morning (the survey is recalculated every five minutes), more than 35,600 respondents were “in sync” with Kucinich on the issues. Democratic front-runner Senator Hillary Clinton was the first-place choice of only about 2,400 respondents (3.6%). Other leading candidates fared even worse: Senator Barack Obama (3%), and former Senator John Edwards (1.3%)

UPDATE: Over 90,000 people have taken the survey, and just take a look at Kucinich on the charts! He is a President for the People!!

http://www.dehp.net/candidate/stats.php

[lonestarnot]

1. Most excellent thing I have seen all damn day!

:applause:

[LoZoccolo]

2. It's an Internet poll and means nothing.

It's not a random sample and you can stuff the box. I submitted three entries from the same computer.

[spooked]

4. But People are voting on 25 ISSUES not for the candidates

Just look at this graph!


"Without any weighting, the above graph plots only the number of times a candidate was ranked first"

[Ian David]

14. They're obviously skipping the important questions...

Flag desecration, steroids in professional baseball, and teaching creationism in public schools, banning the Mexican flag-- you know, the things we really need to make everything all better.

:sarcasm:

[LoZoccolo]

17. So?

You can stuff the box; I did it myself.

[Tesha]

104. So did Kerry win this time? (NT)

[DutchLiberal]

131. Kucinich, Gravel and Paul. The candidates best supported by Internet/grassroots activists.

But I fear that most people who will vote won't take this test, or don't engage in Internet activism *anyway*. So, in that regard, the guy whom you responded to is right.

[rucky]

8. It's. Not. A. Poll.

eom

[LoZoccolo]

15. Whatever you want to call it really doesn't matter.

I can vote as many times as I want, and a non-random sample cannot be generalized to a larger population.

[rucky]

18. I don't care who got matched with the most people.

It's a solid way for voters to test who's best for them.

I wish they didn't report who got matched the most.

So which one did you get?

[LoZoccolo]

19. Well, people pass this off as something which it isn't.

I can't even remember who I got because I wasn't doing it with my own answers; I was just seeing if I could stuff the box.

[rucky]

20. don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

give it a go for real.

[Solon]

24. He won't go for it...

He's afraid he may be a "Radical Leftist". ;)

[rucky]

26. Let's get Mikey!

[Solon]

45. I have an idea...

To "legitimize" this type of survey, which is what this is. I'm going to see if I can contact the author and see if I can volunteer for an "old school" mail survey for folks in my city based on this survey. Let's say 100 people, to start out, running it would cost about 57 dollars, give or take, for envelopes, printing, and stamps. Its not too much money, but could be informative by itself. Other folks around the country can do the same, for local neighborhoods, and collect the information, seeing where true preferences lie. Other questions, such as whether you are a Republican, Democrat, Independent, Age, Sex, Registered to vote, active voter, etc. could also be useful.

Actually calculating the data would be the hardest part, you could do it manually, but it could take quite a bit of time, it could be computerized, using an optical scanner, and having the survey in that form. Who knows, maybe, with the time we have before primaries and elections, it could make a difference. Even better, tell the folks that were surveyed who they actually agree with.

[LoZoccolo]

32. Ron Paul, lol.

Abortion Rights, No Child Left Behind, Embryonic Stem Cells, ANWR Drilling, Kyoto, Guns - Background Checks, Net Neutrality, Iraq Withdrawal, Minimum Wage Increase

This shows you how messed-up this thing is. There are almost no social welfare questions aside from universal health care. I think a bunch of civil liberties questions plus guns (I like guns) put me in libertarian territory due to their absence. I have even less faith in this thing now. For example, they have you pick support or oppose or unknown/other for wiretapping. How do you express that you are against wiretapping without a warrant? Same with No Child Left Behind. How do you express that you oppose it as an unfunded mandate? The word "Guantanamo" is offered without anything further. What does it mean to oppose Guantanamo in this context? And how did they fit the candidates' responses into this framework? Can I disagree with how they characterized their positions? This is a heap of junk.

[rucky]

38. LOL

he scored as my polar opposite

[Ian David]

39. You're really trying to triangulate. n/t

[muriel_volestrangler]

58. I agree the range of questions isn't enough

It said I have no disagreements with both Kucinich and Gravel. But their ideas on taxation are quite different.

[iverglas]

108. that's what I was trying to say!

Same with No Child Left Behind. How do you express that you oppose it as an unfunded mandate?

I couldn't figure out why I disagreed with Kucinich there (not that it matters, me being foreign anyhow, but picking an answer just kind of on gut feeling for that one).

How do you express that you are against wiretapping without a warrant?

Ditto there, for which I picked the no-opinion option. I don't oppose wire-tapping, and I didn't figure out that it was supposed to be making me think of wiretapping without a warrant, but I figured there was something I wasn't getting!


I still prefer http://www.politicalcompass.org/

which now has results for candidates in the US primaries:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/usprimaries2007



Ew. What a choice.

[rjones2818]

112. Here's mine

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.10

If you draw a diagonal from center in the lower left quadrant, I'm two boxes from the corner on the diagonal (in their grid system).

Heh heh!

Appaently I make Ghandi and the Dali Lama look like the mushy middle!

:evilgrin:

[iverglas]

116. last time I did it

Economic Left/Right: -8.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.95

Sorry, I'm taken. ;)

I guess there must be a bunch of things I disagree even with Kucinich on!

(By the way, if they'd bothered to look at the Lama person's track record rather than words, I think he'd be at a somewhat safer distance from thee and me. Slavery isn't real high on the libertarian/left agenda.)

Seriously, though, it's pretty depressing to have to choose among that herd of candidates all up there in the authoritarian/right quadrant, and y'all have my sympathies. Not that things on this side of the border are hugely better.


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[rjones2818]

124. I've always thought that we had the best

view of humans in the world! Humans are able to take care of themselves and not war if they choose to, and can do so by forming associations with other humans without trying to dominate them.

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[flvegan]

50. Score one for Oasis!

Or...score 15 for Oasis? How many times can I vote?

[LSK]

81. did you take it?? its actually the best poll I have seen

It deals with ISSUES!

[LoZoccolo]

84. I've taken it four times. That's the problem.

Three times were just to see what it would do if I tried to stuff the box (I could) and once in earnest, though I felt it was poorly constructed (see reply #32).

[Ian David]

3. I just took the survey...

Kucinich 84
No Child Left Behind, Iran Sanctions, Same-Sex Constitutional Ban

Gravel 61
Iran Sanctions, Same-Sex Constitutional Ban

Clinton 54
No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage, Same-Sex Constitutional Ban

Obama 51
Patriot Act, Border Fence, Same-Sex Marriage, Same-Sex Constitutional Ban

Edwards 51
No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage, Same-Sex Constitutional Ban

Dodd 49
No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Constitutional Ban

Richardson 46
Assault Weapons Ban, Patriot Act, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage, Same-Sex Constitutional Ban

Biden 44
No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Same-Sex Marriage, Same-Sex Constitutional Ban

And in the negative numbers...

Paul -13
McCain -29
Thompson -31
Cox -35
Giuliani -44
Huckabee -46
Brownback -46
Tancredo -69
Romney -69
Hunter -76

[spooked]

7. I just took it, and came up with Kucinich too!

This is a good way to figure out which candidate you SHOULD be supporting!

[Ian David]

11. I have to say, I WAS impressed with Kucinich.

But I can't shake the feeling that he'd die of salmonella poisoning within months of being elected.

Which is only slightly less dignified than choking to death on a pretzel.

[kwyjibo]

27. you want a same-sex constitutional ban?

D:

[Ian David]

28. No, I am against it.

Did I answer the question wrong?



I just did a test, and answered "Support" and "Meh" to everything, except "constitutional ban" which I answered "support" and "key" and got these results:

Romney 10
Abortion Rights, Embryonic Stem Cells, Kyoto, Citizenship Path for Illegals, Iraq Withdrawal, Same-Sex Marriage, Same-Sex Civil Union, Universal Healthcare

Hunter 8
Abortion Rights, Embryonic Stem Cells, Kyoto, Assault Weapons Ban, Guns - Background Checks, Iraq Withdrawal, Minimum Wage Increase, Same-Sex Marriage, Universal Healthcare

Huckabee 8
Abortion Rights, Embryonic Stem Cells, Assault Weapons Ban, Guns - Background Checks, Iraq Withdrawal, Same-Sex Marriage, Same-Sex Civil Union, Universal Healthcare

Giuliani 6
Net Neutrality, Iraq Withdrawal, Minimum Wage Increase, Same-Sex Marriage, Same-Sex Constitutional Ban, Universal Healthcare

Clinton 5
ANWR Drilling, Guantanamo, Torture, Wiretapping, Iraq War, Iraq Troop Surge, Same-Sex Marriage, Same-Sex Constitutional Ban

Dodd 4
ANWR Drilling, Guantanamo, Torture, Wiretapping, Iraq War, Iraq Troop Surge, Same-Sex Constitutional Ban

Edwards 3
ANWR Drilling, Guantanamo, Torture, Wiretapping, Iraq War, Iraq Troop Surge, Same-Sex Marriage, Same-Sex Constitutional Ban

Richardson 2
Assault Weapons Ban, Guantanamo, Torture, Wiretapping, Border Fence, Iraq Troop Surge, Same-Sex Marriage, Same-Sex Constitutional Ban

Tancredo 1
Abortion Rights, No Child Left Behind, Embryonic Stem Cells, Kyoto, Assault Weapons Ban, Guns - Background Checks, Citizenship Path for Illegals, Iraq Troop Surge, Iraq Withdrawal, Minimum Wage Increase, Same-Sex Marriage, Same-Sex Civil Union, Universal Healthcare

Obama 1
Death Penalty, ANWR Drilling, Guantanamo, Wiretapping, Iraq War, Iraq Troop Surge, Same-Sex Marriage, Same-Sex Constitutional Ban

Biden 1
ANWR Drilling, Guantanamo, Torture, Wiretapping, Iraq War, Iraq Troop Surge, Same-Sex Marriage, Same-Sex Constitutional Ban

Brownback 0
Thompson -1
Cox -2
Kucinich -3
McCain -6
Gravel -7
Paul -22

It looks like the things listed are those where you disagree with the candidates? So it looks like I answered that question incorrectly when I first took the quiz.

[kwyjibo]

33. maybe you did!

I answered that I opposed it and it didn't show up next to Kucinich's name or any of those others.

[Ian David]

36. Well, since I answered that I support civil unions AND gay marriage, it probably canceled it out.n/t

[Ian David]

41. There! I re-took the quiz...

Kucinich 89
No Child Left Behind, Iran Sanctions

Gravel 67
Iran Sanctions

Clinton 65
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Obama 64
Patriot Act, Border Fence, Same-Sex Marriage

Edwards 61
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Dodd 60
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Iran - Military Action

Richardson 57
Death Penalty, Assault Weapons Ban, Patriot Act, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Biden 55
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Same-Sex Marriage

Paul -2
McCain -16
Thompson -30
Giuliani -33
Cox -44
Brownback -54
Huckabee -56
Tancredo -73
Romney -76
Hunter -82

[tech3149]

5. Thanks for reposting this in light of the candidate forum

It just shows to go ya that if you vote on issues, your candidate isn't going to be the one the corporate media is telling you to vote for. I've been selling this to people around here for the last few years and I'm just starting to break through the haze.

[never_get_over_it]

6. I did some kind of issue "test" in 2004

answering questions on issues - 100% agreement with Kucinich and 90 something for get this Sharpton and not surprisingly ZERO for the freak in chief

[lonestarnot]

10. Heh heh heh. Zero Heh heh heh!

Zero alright. I'd give him a negative 10.

[texpatriot2004]

12. "I am kind of like the Seabiscuit of this race" Dennis K. nm

[Ian David]

16. More like Wicket than Seabiscuit, really

Ahhh.. universal healthcare... jub jub...

[Norrin Radd]

42. I had that poster when I was nine. :-)

[Freddie Stubbs]

154. He said that in 2004

If here were a horse they would have sent him to the glue factory by now.

[spooked]

13. Take the Test Here: Find out who your candidate SHOULD be!

http://www.dehp.net/candidate/

LOL Just heard the headline on CNN as I was typing this: "Find out if Clinton IS unstoppable!" (Right after this commercial)

[IndyOp]

21. The validity of the quiz depends on the issues included in the quiz...

I am happy to see Kucinich leading - he *is* mainstream.

Right now I am rooting for Edwards - who would be doing better if there had been more questions about unions and international relations...

[Mind_your_head]

22. Kucinich is the ONLY one who told the truth.......Biden appears to want to be a 'truth teller'

but he's not 'there'.

[Individualist]

23. DLC supporters' reactions on this thread are hilarious

They're freaking out.

:rofl:

[Mind_your_head]

25. What are they freaking out about? eom

[Individualist]

29. The positive results for Kucinich

[Mind_your_head]

34. Heh......Honesty, for people aren't familiar with it......

could be quite traumatic. I hope they get used to it.....really quickly. It's nice/wonderful/freeiing, in fact! Highly recommend trying it - Honesty! :-)

[Breeze54]

31. LMAO!!

I see that too! Dumb bunnies! :rofl:

[Robbien]

37. Ha! Sticking it to the Blue Dogs/DLC

can't get better than that.

[PoconoPragmatist]

40. And He will Never Get Nominated, Let Alone Elected

Because, in our stupid, uninformed society, style wins over substance every single time.

Kucinich does not have the looks, or the slick, easy name to win. Face it, Kucinich is a weird name. Not like Clinto...Bush...Carter...you get my point.

No one named Eisenhower or Roosevelt would get elected nowadays. Weird name? Fuhgeddaboudit!!

We're talking about a country that would scream louder if their right to vote for American Idol was taken from them...than if the right to vote for President was taken from them.

[spooked]

43. So true!

What has happened to us!?

[Individualist]

44. I think the grassroots Democratic voters are more intelligent than you give them credit for.

I believe that rather than allow themselves to be led like lemmings by the MSM, they'll vote on issues. If people who are strongly anti-war, anti-corporatist and pro-impeachment vote on the issues, you could be in for quite a surprise.

[PoconoPragmatist]

52. There Are NOT ENOUGH Of You. Not Now....Not EVER

Give it up, Kucinich is never gonna get nominated or elected. Pity, but true. therer just are NOT enough people left who really CARE about the things that ACTUALLY MATTER!! Style wins over substance in our dumbed-down, short-attention-span society.

Kucinich, while he has the substance...has not the style, and never will.

there will never be enough of you who care passionately enough to get him nominated or elected.

Just a harsh dose of reality, and sorry for raining on your parade, but facts are facts. They don't call me PoconoPragmatist for no reason.

[Toasterlad]

54. Don't Say There Aren't Enough People Like Us...

...admit that there are too many people like YOU. People who are willing to compromise and accept the "lesser of two evils". In short, the people who have turned our political system into exactly the stagnant swamp of corruption that it has become.

If the people are ever going to take back the power in this country, people like YOU better start becoming people like US.

I am voting for Kucinich because I knew (even without taking this "quiz") that he was the voice of the majority for most of the issues. He's certainly MY voice. And I'm voting for him no matter how lost a cause you seem to think it may be. Imagine if EVERYONE voted for what they believe, rather than what they were told was their only choice?

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[DemocratSinceBirth]

59. Respectfully

The first thing they teach you in Political Science is to distinguish between the empirical (the way things are) and the normative (the way things ought to be)...

I too took the test and matched up the best with Dennis Kucinich... I also took the http://www.politicalcompass.org/test and my test score put me to the left of the Gandhi and Nelson Mandella yet I have no doubt that someone who thinks like me has the proverbial "bat's chance in Hell" of geeting elected president in the United States of America...

[Toasterlad]

70. You Don't Have to Believe It. You Have to Do It.

If you feel that Kucinich is the best choice based on the issues, then vote for Kucinich. Tell other people you're voting for him, and why. But mostly, tell people that you're fed up with being force-fed candidates and told to pick from a select few.

The vast majority of my friends and family are Democrats. Not ONE of them plans to vote for Hillary Clinton. I have heard MANY people on DU say the same thing, wondering where all the support for her is coming from. I'll tell you EXACTLY where it's coming from. The corporate run media is TELLING you she's the front-runner because SHE'S the nominee THEY want. Maybe they want her because they think a Republican candidate has the best shot at beating her. Maybe they want her because they think she's least likely to disturb the corporate status quo. Whatever the reason, they are forcing her down America's throat.

I have nothing personal against Hillary Clinton. But I don't want to vote for someone because "anyone's better than a Republican", a statement I've heard alarmingly, disgustingly often around here. I want to vote FOR a candidate, not against one. I want to vote FOR someone who will represent the things I believe, not for someone who'll compromise my beliefs in order to placate people in power.

[PoconoPragmatist]

74. I Just Did

Learn to distinguish between the empirical (the way things are) and the normative (the way things ought to be)...

[Toasterlad]

75. Learn to Fight For Something, Instead of Rolling Over in Defeat.

[PoconoPragmatist]

88. Learn To Not Support Someone Who Can't Win, Thus Giving The Power To Our Enemies!

Would you rather be an idealist and support Kucinich, and end up with another Repig president, or do you want to support a Democrat who actually CAN win, and get about 80% of what you want.

Learn to differentiate between the world as it is...and the world as it oughta be.

[Toasterlad]

94. If I Vote for Kucinich Because I Believe in Him...

And you DON'T vote for Kucinich solely because you don't believe he can be elected, it's YOUR fault that a Repig becomes president, not mine. YOU are the one wasting your vote, not me. I'm using my vote the way it is intended; to tell the government what I want. You are using yours to say "What I want doesn't matter, as this election has already been decided by people more powerful than I am, so I'll cast my vote for the only choice they have given me and hope they don't abuse me too much."

Since that's the way you feel, please don't vote at all, particularly in the primary. You're only hurting the rest of us who recognize that the only way things will get better is if we MAKE them better.

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[DutchLiberal]

133. But that's self-fulfilling prophecy. Hillary will win, *therefore* I vote for Hillary?

If you do that, you are caving into the MSM.

[PoconoPragmatist]

145. That Is Not What I Said!!

I did not say Hillary will win...IN FACT I FUCKING HOPE SHE DOESN'T BECAUSE I FUCKING HATE HER, AND THINK SHE WILL KILL US!!

What I DID say....IF YOU FUCKING BOTHERED TO READ FOR JACK SHIT....is that, while I will work my hardest to DENY HILLARY THE NOMINATION....if she DOES get it anyway....then I'll be a good Democrat and vote for her...so as to deny the Repigs the White House, okay??

Even Hillary is better than a Repig. Not much, I grant, but still better than a Repig.

DO I HAVE TO SPELL EVERYTHING OUT FOR YOU PEOPLE?? CAN'T YOU EVER FUCKING READ BETWEEN THE LINES???

[DutchLiberal]

161. Hillary was just an example. And go somewhere else if you want to rave and rant.

[Breeze54]

72. "There Are NOT ENOUGH Of You?" Meaning you vote for LIARS?!?

WAKE UP!!!!!!! Grow UP!!!!

:puke:

:grr:

[Individualist]

78. You wish!!

[PoconoPragmatist]

89. I Wish What??

That there aren't enough of you?

No, carefully read what I am saying...I WISH THAT THERE WERE ENOUGH OF YOU to actually make a difference and get a guy like Kucinich elected.

But I also know how to differentiate between the world as it actually is...and the world as I would wish it to be. This is why I am PoconoPragmatist. I'm your dose of cold, hard reality.

I actually WISH that the majority of this county had intellectual depth surpassing a third grade level...and an attention span longer than the average five-year-old. I WISH that substance would win over style, but in this dumbed-down, short-attention-span society...it is what it is, and style does, unfortunately win out over substance.

Kucinich has substance. He does not have the style and popular appeal to win.

Want proof? Take your own survey! When asked just about the issues, Kucinich wins huge...but as soon as they know it is Kucinich...it goes way down. just the proof that, alas, while Kucinich has the substance, he has not the style nor the appeal, and that is why he can't win.

It sucks. but it's also reality.

do not assume you know my opinions, ideas, stances or beliefs. I happen to like Kucinich. I wish he COULD get elected. but I also know he does not stand a snowflake's chance in hell....because there are not enough people in our country who care passionately...and there are not enough people who have the intellectual depth or attention span to appeciate Mr. Kucinich's message - and too much of our society is dumbed-down, and spoon-fed what the Corporate Media wants the masses to be fed.

Yes, work towards an ideal world...but it ain't happening any time soon. Again, this is the pragmatist speaking. Think of me as your reality pill.

Make no assumptions about who I support or do not support.

As it so happens, I support Edwards, because he happens to stand for most of what Kucinich does...he walks what he talks...and he apologized for his IWR vote. i'd rather get 70-80 percent of what I want than to lose it all and have another Repig because I went for 100% of what I want.

Edwards has the name recognition, and the charisma that Kucinich does not. at any rate, I'm praying for anyone but Hiullary. She will kill us. More people from the other side will show up just to vote against Hillary....than to vote for their own guy. i'd rather someone run that does not galvanize our opposition into coming out to the polls. I'd rather they stayed home. if Hillary's the nominee...they won't stay home, trust me.

[Richard Steele]

95. So, exactly who calls you "PoconoPragmatist", anyway? (Other than YOURSELF, of course....)

[PoconoPragmatist]

97. Well...

Just about everyone who lives around me and knows me tells me I am a hard-headed pragmatist.

This is why I adopted that name for use on these forums.

Oh, and by the way...nice drive-by attack, you coward. Why don't you address some of the points I actually bring up...instead of taking cheap shots? Or are you afraid you can't take me on because you know damned well I'm right?

[Richard Steele]

100. Calling a man with such popular views "DOA" far before the primary isn't pragmatic, it's DEFEATIST

And if you're so "right", why EDIT directly into "personal attack mode"?

That doesn't exactly strike me as the act of someone
who has the courage of conviction.

[PoconoPragmatist]

113. On WHAT Do You Base Kucinich Having A Chance In Hell??

Yeah...on the issues, he's there.

As soon as people know it's Kucinich...fuhgeddaboudit!!

Kucinich has never gotten more than 3 percent in any primary. Now, how do you figure he has a chance in hell?

[PoconoPragmatist]

152. Show Me Any Primary Where Kucinich Ever Got In The Top FOUR Vote-Getters n/t

[XOKCowboy]

156. I agree with you. We live in a "Form Over Function" society

I first came across that term in the motorcycle world when discussing why Harley's are so popular. Why would people buy a Harley when other bikes are faster, stop quicker, easier to maintain, more comfortable and much cheaper? Because they're "cool", they "have the look" or "they're chick magnets". They'll tell you that Harley's are an American Product because that's what they've been told when in fact a large majority of Harley parts are made overseas and that many "rice burners" are made 100% in USA factories. Facts don't matter. It's all about image.

That kind of attitude is endemic in American society and it certainly applies to candidates for office. "Normal" people don't care about the issues. They'll never hear Kucinich's views and won't care. They'll write him off at first sight because he doesn't look "presidential". The only thing we'll ever hear about him on "the news" will be about his wife, you watch.

Man ya took a lot of grief about your views so I had to let ya know I agree with you.

[Imagevision]

46. Kucinich has already begun to make more sense then the bunch of them combined.

[Mind_your_head]

47. Amen! eom

[nolabels]

49. Some say Kucinich is a new age hippie

It really was a humorous reading this pathetic hit piece on him :hippie:

Refused to debate Congressional opponents (new!)
http://www.oppodepot.com/kucinich.html

from
http://www.oppodepot.com/

[tbyg52]

48. Kucinich/Edwards or Edwards/Kucinich!

Works for me.

I took some kind of online poll and was 100% with Gravel (amazing to me that I could be 100% for anybody or anything, but I was), but Kucinich was #2.

Edited for stupid typo, my specialty....

[stimbox]

158. Kucinich/Edwards or Edwards/Kucinich!

Me too.

[SSpeedracer]

159. Nice avatar and sig.

I might steel it. hahahahaha am I evil or what? By the way ditto your post (prefer 1st / )

[stimbox]

175. Thanks

Please do...

[goforit]

164. EDWARDS???....After he snubbed Dennis???? Are you for real?

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[EFerrari]

53. What a surprise. n/t

[bamacrat]

55. How great would it be to actually get the best person for the job..

not just the one the MSM deemed the one.

[PoconoPragmatist]

57. Good Fucking Luck - It'll Never Happen

and if it ever, by some miracle did...someone got the nomination who REALLY WOULD care for the people...the corporate mafia would give him or her the JFK/RFK treatment, and I dare you to tell me otherwise!

This is the country where the little guy always gets screwed.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

60. The Kennedys Were Incredibly Charismatic...

That was almost as much a part of their attraction as their ideas...

[glowing]

61. I didn't realize only Kucinich and Paul were against the Patriot Act.

I thought everyone was for throwing that unconstitutional power grabbing b.s. out.

[Oldenuff]

91. You were wrong...just like me.What an eye opener!

Kooch..Gravel...and Paul, are the ONLY ones who oppose that POS (un)Patriot(ic)Act.All the others appear to be blind to the real threats to our freedoms.

While everyone is busy voting on issues like the war,gay rights,immigration,etc.. the REAL threat goes virtually unnoticed.What good are all those issues without our freedoms.

Where is Freedoms "Champion"?

[Cobalt Violet]

62. K & R big time.

:kick:

[NoSheep]

63. He's my man. Let's hope this gets around!

[Subdivisions]

64. Kooch!!! n/t

[BlooInBloo]

65. lol! Boy, you guys are in for a rude awakening come primary day.

[madokie]

66. Wow, ain't that something for a man who is considered as unelectable by some here

could do so well, oh well I guess it just goes to show

[PoconoPragmatist]

73. He IS Unelectable.

Learn to distinguish between the empirical (the way things are) and the normative (the way things ought to be)...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

77. Well- Let's Not Make It The Distinction Into A Crucible

It's laudable that folks have high minded goals...

I'll just muddle along in the land of what's possible given what we have to work with....


PEACE

[PoconoPragmatist]

90. EXACTLY!!!

I feel the same way! But I would rather pull for getting 70 - 80 percent of what I want...and winning...rather than try for 100% of what I want and ending up with another Repig in office. that's all I'm saying.

Personally, I wish that our society was better educated, had a longer attention span, and cared passionately...so that a guy like Kucinich COULD get elected.

In our current society, though, it just ain't happening.

They call me PoconoPragmatist, because I'm your dose of harsh reality...I'm your bitter pill...I call it like I see it, and I don't hold back.

Never confuse my harsh doses of reality for my actual desires.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

92. An ugly crooked bastard named Richard Nixon got elected.

To the House of Representatives...ONCE
To the Senate.....ONCE
To the Vice Presidency ....TWICE
To the Presidency .....TWICE

And you guys are saying Kooch is unelectable because of his looks??

[PoconoPragmatist]

99. That Was Then...This Is Now. n/t

[Yukari Yakumo]

140. That's a laugh...

All Kuch's ever been elected to is the House of Representatives. He has never been a Senator or a Governor, and it's been nearly three decades since he was a mayor of a major city.

[Desertrose]

143. and your point is?

He is currently a congressman and heading up some pretty important committees/bills. He know how things work in DC...yet he isn't a bought & sold insider.

[MilesColtrane]

67. Nifty-But people rarely vote for their own interests.

If they did, the Republican party would barely exist.

[slackmaster]

119. That meme has always seemed bizarre to me

Don't you think Republicans believe they are voting in their own interests?

[MilesColtrane]

137. Of course they believe it,..

...but voters rarely look at actual policy proposals. (If they can even find a candidate that is willing to make them available.)

People vote for who they identify with the most.

Let's take economic self interest.
Sure, this is purely anecdotal, but I live in a red state and I see plenty of old, crappy autos with Bush stickers.
I haven't looked at the figures, but I'd still be willing to bet that there are significant numbers of middle class-to-poor people who vote for Republicans despite Republican policies that damage their economic self interest.

Is it really bizarre to think that people vote against their interests when you consider that in the past 35 years or so half the people eligible to vote don't even bother?
How could not casting a vote possibly be in one's interest?

[slackmaster]

138. An oil worker in an oil state is likely to vote for an oily person who supports oil companies

It's a matter of economic survival. For a person in that situation, it's pretty hard to dispute that the unctuous Republican candidate who lives in the pockets of Big Oil is not actually working in the voter's interest. Unless you can paint an entirely different, plausible scenario that an alternative candidate could bring about. It may be short-sighted, but most working class people are concerned with the day to day struggle to make ends meet.

How could not casting a vote possibly be in one's interest?

I've heard all kinds of ridiculous excuses.

[Virginia Dare]

68. Well, there is one thing I learned from this..

if a Repub wins the nomination, I would prefer it be Brownback, he only got a -15 with me. Duncan Hunter was last with a -47!!:rofl:

[femrap]

69. He's the only TRUE

Dem in the race! Damn, I sure hope he picks up some momentum. I love the guy.

When we start to hear slurs about him, you'll know he is perceived as a threat.

His answer last night when asked about municipalities having to pay to build sports stadiums was GREAT and I think it connected with people...instead of paying for the stadium, why not buy the team??? Fabulous.

He truly empowers the working people of America!

[GreenPartyVoter]

71. It's Dennis for me too

[Ian_rd]

76. This has been true for several years, and yet he is portrayed as a fringe kook

The elite controlled media will not allow someone who actually represents a majority of public opinion to receive a fair hearing.

[Individualist]

79. I don't believe the majority of grassroots voters are lemmings.

They know better than to "obey the teevee".

[PoconoPragmatist]

101. I Do.

They all go for whoever their equally uninformed friends go for.

[PoconoPragmatist]

102. That's Because He IS A Fringe Kook

The media has made him so in the eyes of enough Americans that he will never be anything else.

Sad but true.

I don't like it, I don't agree with it...but it is what it is.

Another hard dose of reality.

[Richard Steele]

115. So, agreeing with a majority of voters on most issues is "fringe"? Please, tell us more.

nm

[PoconoPragmatist]

117. I Did Not Say That. Try Actually Fucking Reading My Words!!

Let me give you a hint. Perception is reality.

Now do you understand what I actually said?

[Richard Steele]

118. "Perception is reality", you say? That's not "pragmatic", it's ROVIAN. FYI: they're different.

[Richard Steele]

123. Your words:"That's Because He IS A Fringe Kook". I'm looking at them RIGHT NOW.

[Name removed]

146. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Richard Steele]

148. You have PLENTY of time to SMEAR Kucinich supporters, but no time to offer PROOF. How odd.

And you seem to become a little TESTY when I ask you for some.

Gee, what's up with that?

That whole "proof" thing an uncomfortable subject for you? :shrug:

[PoconoPragmatist]

160. Burden Of Proof On You.

I have asked for you..and other Kucinich supporters...to prove me wrong, by pledging RIGHT FUCKING NOW...to support the Dem nominee, no matter who it is. And none of you will take me up on it.

I'd say THAT is the proof right there.

Prove me wrong.

[Richard Steele]

167. I don't take "Loyalty Oaths" demanded by people who smear Dem voters. Wouldn't be pragmatic.

[PoconoPragmatist]

168. No, You'd Rather Betray Us, And Cause Another 8 Years Of Bush, Because YOUR Guy Didn't Get In.

n/t

[Richard Steele]

169. More ranting insults. What a shock.

[PoconoPragmatist]

171. You Know What

I have had it with you. Goodbye.

[Richard Steele]

172. You already said that yesterday. Is this your FINAL "last word", or just another temporary one?

[donkeyotay]

80. Drat, it's just a website...BUT, remember when "we" "re-elected" dimson

The legitimate polls would show that on issue after issue people didn't agree with the GOP. While they went along with the Rovian hot button pseudo-issues (and were scared crapless by Cheney's threats to "hit us again"), they were against the GOP on the substantial issues like health care. The American people are further "left" than the media is admitting.

[progressoid]

82. Interesting, but I'm not too sure about his methodology

He says he gives or takes away 1, 2, & 5 points per question based on our agreement/disagreement with each candidate. But in his code he seems to be ranking the candidates' stances 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6.

How does a six point ranking convert to a 1, 2, & 5 point system? Am I missing something?

[nolabels]

83. Never realized what kind of snake in grass candidates are really out there.

It's no wonder the corporate media and the other candidates don't want to talk about the issues. After looking at all those issues, Dennis Kucinich would be the only one i wouldn't have a some kind of problem with :shrug:

[Desertrose]

85. K&R for DJK!

I took the poll and had "no disagreements" with Kucinich!


DR

[sbyte]

86. Works for me! 1. Kucinich, 2.Biden, 3.Edwards

[Oldenuff]

87. Wow..I was SHOCKED

I was not surprised to see that Dennis supports most of the issues I hold to be very important.But after visiting www.2decide.com, I was SHOCKED to see how many of the Dem "front runners" do not.The Patriot Act is an absolute travesty (in my opinion),and I am very concerned when even the Democratic candidates for President support it.Any Dem candidate who supports the Patriot Act won't get my vote.

The issue of my basic rights is too important to me,and If the Dem candidates don't share my belief,then I won't waste my vote on them.

Hillary won't get my vote.
Obama won't get my vote.
Edwards won't get my vote.
Dodd won't get my vote..
Biden...

etc..etc..

[dorkulon]

93. Not surprising, but unfortunately also not relevant.

The only 3 things that are relevant to Dennis's chances in the primaries are:

1. He's short.
2. He's funny-looking.
3. Americans are shallow idiots who won't take a short, funny-looking guy seriously as a presidential candidate.


That is all.

[PoconoPragmatist]

98. My Scores

Kucinich 35
No Child Left Behind, Citizenship Path for Illegals, Border Fence, Iran Sanctions

Obama 25
Patriot Act, Citizenship Path for Illegals, Same-Sex Marriage

Clinton 23
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Citizenship Path for Illegals, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Gravel 22
Citizenship Path for Illegals, Border Fence, Iran Sanctions

Edwards 21
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Citizenship Path for Illegals, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Dodd 19
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Citizenship Path for Illegals, Iran - Military Action

Biden 18
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Citizenship Path for Illegals, Same-Sex Marriage

Richardson 17
Death Penalty, Assault Weapons Ban, Patriot Act, Citizenship Path for Illegals, Border Fence, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Paul 1
Abortion Rights, Embryonic Stem Cells, ANWR Drilling, Kyoto, Assault Weapons Ban, Guns - Background Checks, Net Neutrality, Iran Sanctions, Minimum Wage Increase, Same-Sex Marriage, Universal Healthcare

Cox -10
Thompson -12
McCain -15
Huckabee -21
Giuliani -23
Brownback -25
Romney -26
Tancredo -30
Hunter -39

So there you have it, I'm consistent. I am voting in the primary for the guy who scores highest on my list who ALSO in my opinion, has a chance of winning.

Kucinich has no chance. Hillary will kill us...Obama will lose the white racist vote.

Thus, my supprt for Edwards is just that...me picking the guy who agrees the most with the things I care about...who ALSO, I believe, actually has a chance of winning.

In an ideal word...well, folks...guess what, we do not live in an ideal world!

[nolabels]

105. So are you from the the Pocono's and is this your congressman?

(not trying to put you on the spot, just curious about him?)

Congressman: Minnesotans 'Screwed Us'
By Tom Shoop | Wednesday, August 08, 2007 | 11:36 AM

Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa., isn't one of those people waxing rhapsodic about the need to help our fellow citizens in need after last week's 35W bridge collapse in Minneapolis. On the contrary, according to this report in the Wilkes-Barre, Pa., Times Leader, he thinks the $250 million bill Congress passed to rebuild the bridge was a taxpayer ripoff because it exceeded the normal $100 million limit for emergency relief projects.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1546189

[PoconoPragmatist]

114. Yes. Kanjorski Is My Congressman.

didn't say he was right about everything, did I?

I voted for him because he was better than the Repig opponent.

In our district, we waited 9 months after a flood for a road to be re-opened, because a half-block section needed to be re-built. We waited and waited...promised openings came and went. the flood happened in February. The bridge opened the day before Thanksgiving.

[nolabels]

130. I was just kind of curious really

That Kanjorski seems like a curious fella to be sure. I saw the Pocono and the Pragmatist and it kind seemed like the fit with the congressmen if one could figure out his reasoning (not that others would agree with it). I read through most of those links at the other post and it made we wonder about his motivation.

I live here in Southern California and people from other parts of country might consider our folks shallow, and on the shell they are. If you really know them though they are not but superficially yea, that's the mindset we have been entrenched into.


Your district is even kind of lucky that they got the choice. Out here the districts are gerrymandered by the Dems in their infinite wisdom currently. If your are stuck in one kind of district, be it democratic or republican then that is the party that will probably will get elected for that seat. I am stuck in a republican district with the republicans out numbering the Democratic party two to one. It gets hard paddling sometimes i guess


P.S. we have been waiting 25 years for them to widen this clogged little strip of interstate highway in our area and they have been working on it for 3 years now. By the time they get it done it will be much too small :crazy:

[RedCappedBandit]

103. I took it, came up with Kucinich.

I don't understand that though, because I disagree with Kucinich on more issues than Gravel :shrug:


Anywho, not enough questions IMO. Not nearly enough. Absolutely nothing about the looming energy crisis..

[DaveJ]

106. This doesn't seem right...

I had no disagreements with Gravel and one disagreement with Kucinich; nevertheless, Kucinich was rated number one and Gravel was rated number two.

[helderheid]

107. Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours

[Richard Steele]

109. Luckily, we can still KICK them from time to time! nm

[Richard Steele]

142. Like so....:)

[Richard Steele]

144. And like SO...

[Richard Steele]

150. Aaaaaaaaaand..........like so.

[DaveJ]

110. Did anyone else notice 24.107.14.26 listed on the bar graph?

I wonder if that was a mistake or not. 24.107.14.26 was dead last on the chart. If it's some kind of supercomputer I can imagine it might still stand a good chance though.

[DJKDJKDJK]

125. Oh

What does it all mean?

[slackmaster]

139. Maybe a supercomputer is actually running

[0rganism]

177. especially if it's the supercomputer that counts all the votes...

total vote percentages for 2004 election: Bush 1% | Kerry 1% | 24.107.14.26 98%
I win again
Would you like to play a game? _

[Buttercup McToots]

111. Yeah!!

:bounce:

[slackmaster]

120. I suspect this is rigged in favor of Kucinich

I've scored myself in several different ways and usually come up with DK on top even though one of his key positions (favors "assault weapons" ban) is firmly against my interests.

[WA98296]

121. Everyone should take it, My "blind test" results confirm to Kucinich

[jmowreader]

122. He is a president for the people who take meaningless tests online

For extra entertainment, go to that site and tell it you support everything--there's no damn way you could be because some of the positions on there are mutually exclusive...how can one be in support of both gay marriage and a ban on it?--and it will tell you Rudy Giuliani is the president for you.

On edit: if you oppose everything, Ron Paul's your man.

[Spike89]

126. More than just issues

I agree with DK on more issues than I do with any of the others, and I'm supporting him in the primaries because I fell it'll let the other Dems know that his issues resonate with many people. Unfortunately, I also think a DK presidency would be an unmitigated disaster (if he somehow got elected) because he doesn't have the tools to turn his policies into laws. The president can't buck congress, it is only congress that creates and presents bills...we need a bunch of DKs in the senate (we don't really have any now) and a bunch more in congress before a president can realistically push through these things.
DK's candidacy does push the "mainstream" candidates to adopt more progressive stands especially if he does at all well in the primaries. I wish we were already far enough along that DK was a viable candidate, but realistically, you can't just lurch from a fascist state to progressive socialism without having the framework and support in place.

[mvd]

127. I got Kucinich #1 - no surprise

Only disagree with him on No Child Left Behind and Iran Sanctions. I think if diplomacy with Iran fails (we have to give a genuine effort,) sanctions could be an option.

I'm not sure how accurate this is, though. I think Dodd opposes the death penalty, and that Clinton has been ambivalent on it. Yet my death penalty stance was seen as a disagreement with these two.

[DutchLiberal]

128. And STILL, Hillary wil GET the Dem nomination from these same participants.

[DutchLiberal]

129. Kucinich agrees with NCLB??? That's wrong. Very wrong. And worrying.

The test said that was the only disagreement I had with Kucinich.

Gravel is the only candidate with whom I have no disagreements.

These are my results (which reaffirms my belief that I would rather vote for Paul than for Clinton):

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Kucinich 57
No Child Left Behind

Gravel 55
(you have no disagreements with this candidate)

Obama 32
Patriot Act, Border Fence, Iran Sanctions, Same-Sex Marriage

Paul 28
Abortion Rights, Embryonic Stem Cells, ANWR Drilling, Kyoto, Assault Weapons Ban, Guns - Background Checks, Citizenship Path for Illegals, Border Fence, Net Neutrality, Minimum Wage Increase, Same-Sex Marriage, Universal Healthcare

Clinton 25
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Iran Sanctions, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Biden 25
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Iran Sanctions, Same-Sex Marriage

Edwards 24
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Iran Sanctions, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Dodd 24
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Iran Sanctions, Iran - Military Action

Richardson 22
Death Penalty, Assault Weapons Ban, Patriot Act, Iran Sanctions, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

McCain -16
Cox -17
Thompson -18
Giuliani -31
Brownback -32
Huckabee -41
Tancredo -50
Romney -59
Hunter -64

[mvd]

132. That also suprised me - I think we should just scrap it

But it won't affect my support. I won't agree 100% with any candidate. Also, other things need to be fixed before NCLB.

Here are my results:

Kucinich 87
No Child Left Behind, Iran Sanctions

Gravel 73
Iran Sanctions

Obama 61
Patriot Act, Border Fence, Same-Sex Marriage

Clinton 57
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Edwards 54
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Richardson 52
Death Penalty, Assault Weapons Ban, Patriot Act, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Dodd 49
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Iran - Military Action

Biden 47
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Same-Sex Marriage

Paul 4
Abortion Rights, Embryonic Stem Cells, ANWR Drilling, Kyoto, Assault Weapons Ban, Guns - Background Checks, Citizenship Path for Illegals, Border Fence, Net Neutrality, Iran Sanctions, Minimum Wage Increase, Same-Sex Marriage, Universal Healthcare

McCain -26
Giuliani -32
Thompson -32
Cox -36
Brownback -58
Huckabee -59
Tancredo -70
Romney -78
Hunter -86

[DutchLiberal]

135. NCLB should be the *first thing* to get fixed. It's the most important issue.

If NCLB and the American educational system doesn't get fixed before all else, we will have a worse version of Bush elected into the White House by the time they're old enough to vote. Also, if you want the next generation to be better educated, know more about the world and reject simplistic Republican rhetoric, you've got to fix the educational system. Begin with scrapping NCMB.

[Richard Steele]

136. Yup. It's a bad idea being implemented poorly. Nothing good about it. nm

[mvd]

141. I prefer getting out of Iraq first and universal health care

Then restoring civil liberties, and overturning important dictatorial (I mean executive) orders. NCLB wouldn't be far behind these. It's too bad when kids spend so much of the year memorizing for a test instead of real learning.

[PoconoPragmatist]

147. I Prefer

CIVIL LIBERTIES FIRST...then poverty and universal health care. THEN worry about Iraq.

[DutchLiberal]

162. To prevent future disasters like Bush/Iraq to happen, NCLB should be fixed first.

The only way to restore what's wrong in the US (I hope you don't take this wrong from a European) is to fix the educrational system, so the next generation does better. It all starts with the kids.

[LWolf]

178. I believe his position on NCLB

is because he, like all the other candidates in congress at the time, voted for it.

I spoke to him, one-on-one, about NCLB in 2003. I know that he strongly supports all the programs funded by ESEA, pre-NCLB. I know that he does not support the high-stakes testing and forced curriculum & instruction strangling that happens under NCLB, the current version of ESEA.

I think he would like to continue supporting all of the programs for disadvantaged students that fall under ESEA.

You don't hear that much in the NCLB debate. When people say they want to "get rid of NCLB," it usually means that they want to get rid of are the testing provisions ADDED when ESEA was authorized in 2002, becoming "NCLB." It doesn't necessarily mean that they want to see ESEA itself, and all the programs it funds, go away.

[redqueen]

134. nevermind

[Douglas Carpenter]

149. those who REALLY wants to help the Kucinich campaign...NOW IS THE TIME TO DONATE!!

you can do it RIGHT NOW on DU/Act Blue.

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and do not agree with him on the issues. I'm addressing those who DO

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So whether or not you are convinced that Congressman Kucinich could possibly win...if you want the issues Dennis Kucinich brings to the public square, if you believe his message of Strength through Peace is important, that single-payer universal health care is important, if you believe American needs fundamental changes; his campaign needs a lot more money then it has in its coffers now. He won't be getting a whole lot from the corporate lobbyist and their special interest... so ...PLEASE DONATE NOW ! you can do it RIGHT NOW on DU/Act Blue.

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Congressman Dennis Kucinich on the issues:

http://www2.kucinich.us/issues


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[Douglas Carpenter]

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http://www2.kucinich.us/issues

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[Rhiannon12866]

151. I wasn't surprised. I matched up with Dennis, as usual...

Kucinich 80
Iran Sanctions

Obama 57
Patriot Act, Border Fence, Same-Sex Marriage

Gravel 56
No Child Left Behind, Iran Sanctions

Clinton 54
Death Penalty, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Edwards 50
Death Penalty, Patriot Act, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Dodd 48
Death Penalty, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Iran - Military Action

Biden 47
Death Penalty, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Same-Sex Marriage

Richardson 37
Death Penalty, Assault Weapons Ban, Patriot Act, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Paul 6
Abortion Rights, No Child Left Behind, Embryonic Stem Cells, ANWR Drilling, Kyoto, Assault Weapons Ban, Guns - Background Checks, Citizenship Path for Illegals, Border Fence, Net Neutrality, Iran Sanctions, Minimum Wage Increase, Same-Sex Marriage, Universal Healthcare

Giuliani -23
McCain -24
Brownback -25
Cox -26
Thompson -30
Huckabee -49
Romney -58
Tancredo -64
Hunter -72

[Freddie Stubbs]

153. If Internet polls were accurate, Ron Paul would be the next Republican nominee

[Ravy]

157. This questionaire is questionable.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1549972&mesg_id=1552242

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1549972&mesg_id=1552328

[PoconoPragmatist]

165. Of Course It Is

Probably put out by Kucinich's people to produce exactly the results they wanted it to produce.

Figures don't lie. Liars can figure.

[goforit]

163. This is really good news!!!......Go dennis go!!!....The rest are clowns!

[Ms. Toad]

166. Ouch.

No surprise as to who I most closely align with (Kucinich and Gravel - I disagree with Kucinich on two minor issues, and none with Gravel, but the importance I gave issues ranks Kucinich higher than Gravell).

The ouch is the three front runners.

Prior to reviewing the HRC questionairre on GLBT issues, Obama was my favorite - post debate he has dropped to second, and Edwards moved up. In this questionairre, Obama is back up as the front running candidate I agree with on more issues - and Edwards disagrees with me on a couple of issues I consider crucial.

I'm stuck with the Kerry choice, again. With Kerry I held my nose on his stance on GLBT issues and went door to door for him (and not against the gay marriage amendment in Ohio), only to be smacked upside the head here because (in the sentiment of far too many here) gays lost the election for Kerry by insisting on gay marriage now. It looks again as if I may need to hold my nose on issues that are crucial to me, personally, in favor of more globally important issues (Death Penalty and Iran military action) - and likely get smacked upside the head here post election for pushing a gay agenda .

Didn't want to know that.

I wish I thought Kucinich had a chance.

[maxanne]

170. he has a chance

if we decide to give him one.

The primary is a chance for all of us to vote our VALUES. There are people who are acting as if casting the wrong vote in the primary means that someone is going to call your mom and tell her you voted wrong. IT'S THE PRIMARY! You have the whole rest of the year to support whomever wins.

The Republicans do not have a winning candidate. The only way they will win is if the Democrats choose the wrong candidate, and that would be Senator Clinton, imho. The average American hates her with a passion they cannot explain.

[Ms. Toad]

173. I hate her...

but I can certainly explain my passion.:)

But that does give me pause. My second choice is either Edwards or Obama. Leaning to Edwards, at the moment, because I'm peeved at Obama's response to the question of same gender marriage - I may put that aside because Edwards does not agree with my position on other issues.

If I vote for Kucinich (or Gravel), I'm taking a vote away from Edwards or Obama (either of whom would be preferable to Clinton). I might be better off picking whichever of those I think would be better. What a dilemma. Good thing the election is not today.

[maxanne]

176. what part of

it's the PRIMARY aren't you understanding?

As for Edwards or Obama - either is on board with the next war. Choose carefully.

[Richard Steele]

174. I agree completely with everything you wrote there. nm

[ComerPerro]

179. people don't vote on issues though. They vote on what they are sold