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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:17 AM
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If Conservatives believe what they push, Why don't they mentor more disadvantaged people?
Example #1: Conservatives like hearing themselves say that anyone can make it with just hard work and a few smarts, and that the poor are poor because they are lazy.

So if Conservatives really believe they are right, why don't they take a disadvantaged family under their wing and help them succeed if the family is willing to work hard and learn? It should be easy right? Wouldn't take long to put them on the path to prosperity right?

Example # 2: Conservatives like to hear themselves talk about their respect for the 'sanctity of life', and because of that they have to oppose abortion(I won't even mention the irony that these same folks believe in taking lives through capital punishment).

So if Conservatives believe in preserving the sanctity of life and opposing abortion so that the fetus can be brought to term and delivered as a healthy baby, why don't they take poor women under their wing and provide them with help with day care expenses and proper pre-natal/post birth medical care expenses? Certainly they do not believe it is only important to see that the child is born and then abandon them to raise themselves, right?

There are numerous other examples, but the truth is that these 'true believers' are not willing to reach out to those who need some help to prove the validity of their stated beliefs?

Why is that?

And for good measure... even if they won't reach out to help the disadvantaged personally, why do they push for additional tax cuts which they do not need and to finance those tax cuts they want to cut the few government programs we now have in place to help the disadvantaged.

IMHO these positions by Conservatives are not 'compassionate', but rather based on personal self-interest and greed.

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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:36 AM
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1. Let me get this straight.
99.999% of conservatives come from money, but it took hard work to get it????? :rofl:

Now I know where George W. Asshole got the "hard work" saying from.:sarcasm:

Thanks for the post, Blackhatjack.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:00 AM
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2. I did hear a Conservative say once 'keeping money is a lot harder than making it'....
I assume he was saying that when they inherit money they have to fight a lot harder to keep it than the average worker has to work to make that same amount of money from scratch.

Some of the words that come out of their mouth are classics.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:03 AM
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3. Tom Paxton had the answer to that one...
Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 10:08 AM by LeftishBrit
http://www.cherrylane.com/clpub/html/body_artistsongdtl.cfm?songid=102559&wid=100242

"For success alone is not enough to make a life complete.
It's seeing the other guy fail that makes it all so sweet."
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:06 AM
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4. Some of them actually do
But don't get the concept that voluntarily helping the poor doesn't make much of a dent. If charity were truly the solution, it would work, but there are too many poor.

So when they go on about us evil libruls wanting to steal their money to give it to the lazy poor, they are usually missing the point. The libruls want them to pay a fair share, knowing they can't do it all themselves.

As for the rest of them, they are just of the "I got mine" variety, and don't want to hear about the less fortunate, because deep down, they feel guilty, and they don't want to to do anything to help. I've talked to right wingers who actually think nature should take its course, and whoever doesn't make it should just starve.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:14 AM
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5. FDR understood and proved that building the middle class benefits the rich....
... you cannot outsource jobs and still have those people make their payments to the rich on credit cards, loans, and homes.

If you have a healthy middle class in this country, it provides stability for the upper classes that investments overseas never will. But that is the gamble the 'free traders' have taken.

Now we will see how well they fare when the usually reliable middle class can no longer pay them their regular monthly payments.
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:39 AM
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6. You're not seriously asking that question...
...are you?
I mean, c'mon, they're CONservatives, afterall!
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:41 AM
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7. They make it sound so easy, surely they could help out if it is such a snap!
I guess you were not taken in by their claimed 'compassionate conservatism?'
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 02:52 PM
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9. The first time I heard the phrase...
"...compassionate conservatism" my reaction was:

"Holy shit, hang on to your wallets. They've figured out a new way to completely rip us off!"
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:07 PM
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8. probably because they haven't really figured out
how to deduct it all from their taxes ...
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