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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:47 AM
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Voting For Hillary Will Not Make Bill President Again
Just a friendly reminder.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:51 AM
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1. He'd be the First Gentleman, I believe.....
and right wing talking heads would explode everywhere...:rofl:
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:52 AM
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5. That alone would make it worth while.
:-)
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:53 AM
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6. Oh won't that be a sight
hannity foaming at the mouth, limbaugh taking a big jar of viagra down to the dominican republic; coulter secretly touching herself.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:29 PM
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45. LOL - sights to behold
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:19 AM
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29. Imagine him setting fashion trends for males everywhere
It will emasculate Amurkan culture!

:rofl:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:52 AM
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2. He will be in charge of Intern Development and Mentoring
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Sedona Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:45 AM
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34. Where do I sign up to be an intern?
:rofl:
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:52 AM
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3. Thank goodness! Hillary can do even better n/t
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:52 AM
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4. lmao
:thumbsup:
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:53 AM
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7. Remind me to kick this a time or two. Seems a lot of people miss this point
Hill is not Bill.

She is a very bright and hard working woman, but she is not the leader Bill Clinton is. The fact that she doesn't seem to understand the difference is my biggest problem with her. There are leaders and there are the very hard working, bright people behind them. There is a difference.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:53 AM
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8. Thank gawd!!!
:P
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:54 AM
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9. No, but to think he wouldn't be one of her chief advisors is
foolish thinking. We can only dream Shrub had advisors half as good!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:56 AM
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14. I could see him being a type of World Ambassador for her..
a troubleshooter, if you will, kind of like what he does with Poppy for the chimp, except on a broader and more authoritative scale. That wouldn't be a bad role for him.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:54 AM
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10. He will have such a great time if Hillary wins....

all of the trappings of the White House but with none of the responsibilities. He could be a Hugh Hefner type of figure, wearing silk pajamas and hanging out with the interns.

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:56 AM
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15. That scenario makes me want her to lose even more then usual!
:puke:
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:54 AM
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11. Well yeah, but it will come closer to that effect
than any other candidate. I mean if you want Bill back in the White House, this is the way to go.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:59 AM
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16. WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!
She is NOT HE and please, *puke*; he wasn't all that and a bag of chips!

Just ask any poor mother trying to raise a family. :grr:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:01 AM
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18. he wasn't all that and a bag of chips to a 'poor mother? four words
earned income tax cut
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:04 AM
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20. BULLSHIT on a cracker!!!
You are so wrong , it's almost illegal!! Yikes!!!!!!!!!!

You are totally clueless if you think any fucking tax break helped poor family's !!

Maybe for that month but in the big picture??

NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:07 AM
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21. I was one of those working poor who took advantage of the break.
I used the money to pay off delinquent bills and buy clothes for the kids.

call me a liar again.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:09 AM
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22. Yeah-You Can Get Thousands Back On The EITC...
I'm with you...
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:19 AM
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30. BFD!! You were thrown a pittance
Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 10:45 AM by Breeze54
when you and I deserved so much more!!!

You were thrown a pittance while all the jobs went offshore!!!



They were laughing at you when they sent that... BRIBE!!

And now? It doesn't even exist.

Stop cheering the fucking people that are COMPLICIT in fucking you and me over!!! :grr:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:52 AM
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38. I did get much more. You prompted me to address economics
another economic benefit from the Clinton era:

low interest rates as a result of the reduced deficit
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:22 AM
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31. Three words...
Family Leave Act

I had just had my son, and luckily didn't need it, but that safety net eased my mind.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:47 AM
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35. Two words: You're fired!
There was already Maternity Leave back in the 70's!!

Are you the Dad, because if not?

How the hell did that help you more, Mom?!!
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:59 AM
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40. I'm a working Mom, we do exist, ya know.
And yes, we had maternity (sick) leave before - at least those of us who worked at companies that offered it.

The Family Medical Leave Act ensures 12 weeks of protected leave for family or medical reasons (i.e. birth or adoption of child, extended illness of self or immediate family).

Just so you remain informed.:sarcasm:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:29 AM
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41. I was a working pregnant Mom, so I'm well aware
Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 11:34 AM by Breeze54
of what that entails and how that effects your life.

You really didn't answer my question though.

How many Dads are taking advantage of it?

And after NAFTA, who needed maternity Leave? :shrug: . :sarcasm:

Gives with one hand and takes it back with the other.

He wasn't as smart as you all claim or he just didn't give a shit.

NO MORE DYNASTIES!!!





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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:40 AM
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42. The Clinton era was one of *economic expansion, maybe not for those directly affected by NAFTA
Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 11:54 AM by bigtree
. . . I give you that, but,


He moved the nation from record deficits to record surpluses; oversaw the creation of over 22 million jobs - a record; historically low levels of unemployment, poverty and crime; oversaw the highest homeownership and college enrollment rates in history. He helped increase investment in education, provided tax relief for working families, expanded access to technology, encouraged investment in underserved communities with enterprise zones and low income loans.

He presided over the largest peacetime economic expansion in history. That's undisputed. Yes there were disaffected folks. But the fact remains that an overwhelming majority of Americans managed well in his economy.
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:27 PM
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44. Excuse me, I thought your question was whether I was a Dad or a Mom.
One of the guys I work with is now taking advantage of it, though as a Husband, not a Dad. His wife is terminally ill and he needs to stay at home to take care of her. He can do this knowing he has a job when he comes back.

Ironically, you and I agree - no more dynasties, we need someone new with new ideas. It is definitely time for a change. My point was simply that Bill did have some positives. Unfortunately, no one we will end up electing will have zero negatives.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:01 AM
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19. I didn't say wanting Bill back in the white house was a good thing
Should have added that in. I favor Edwards myself.

Bryant
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:55 AM
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12. pretty damn close though
as close as Hillary was to influencing policy decisions . . . even more so, I believe
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:09 AM
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23. Like her health care concern? n/t
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:13 AM
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25. which was defeated by insurance co's protector Moynihan
and his then-sidekick, now media pundit Lawrence O'Donnell
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:56 AM
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13. That's good.
She's the better of the pair anyway. The Clinton years seem bright in comparison to what followed, but on his own merits I have to say he was a bit of a disappointment.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:59 AM
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17. I think people voting for Hillary are intelligent enough to realize that.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:09 AM
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24. hope she appoints him to head up universal health care!
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:17 AM
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26. They are a fantastic duo. I can't wait
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:18 AM
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27. The irony is that the Repukes will make that claim, which is
hilarious, when you consider that while Bill was President, they claimed Hillary was really running things.

I want Hillary to win for that reason alone!

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:24 AM
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33. My Repuke Boss Called Him Billary...
What sadder is some here have adopted the same tired anti-Cinton memes...


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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:18 AM
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28. It might get him a divorce, for all we know.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:23 AM
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32. Wow, the first decent argument in favor of voting for Hillary
Nice one :thumbsup:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:50 AM
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36. Kind of like
a Yoko album is distinct from a John album.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:56 AM
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39. yet, I believe John relied a great deal on Yoko's counsel
who knows what John would have produced on his own; or further, what course his life would have taken. Would he have been so committed to advocating peace without her support? Dunno. My wife always reminds me after one of my rants that SHE was the one who first put the bug in my ear. I deny it, but . . .
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:51 AM
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37. Who do you think was running the show when Bill was President?
Just saying...

Don
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Terri S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:47 AM
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43. Well, I'll bet that's why many are supporting her..not here maybe, but....
I was at a store with my Obama hat on, and the cashier said...'ooo where'd you get that' I figured she was supporting him. Nope... she said she thought she'd choose him for VP. Said she couldn't wait to have Bill back in the White House. A lot of people I talk to supporting Hillary always come down to ... how great it will be when Bill is back in the White House.

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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:37 PM
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46. I for one have never thought her to be simply a side show of her husband.
If some do that is pretty sad, she has made a name all for herself and and such should be applauded not constantly run down.

There is not one person out there that I can agree with one hundred percent of the time, if people are looking for such a candidate it would explain the frustration of far too many.

I think what some fail to realize when looking at individual candidates to vote for fail to realize that the one who holds this nations highest office needs to understand that this country is one of the biggest meling pots of individuals of the whole planet, to wish for our president to cater to one set of needs and or values ensures ending up with someone similar to what we have in office at the present time.

We really have to understand that our neighbors needs are just as important as our own and sometimes we need to make allowances in that we may not always be happy about another's issue being addressed that we may or may not feel is important.

I think the job of holding this country's highest office has got to be one of the hardest jobs out there in that the bottom line is you cannot no matter how much you wish you could please everyone all of the time, it is simply impossible to do.

Do people think it is really that simple to appease every single American citizen in the same vein?
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