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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:44 PM
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If you don't believe in Global Warming is it cool where you are today?
You know those wacky conservatives who go through life "believing" what they are told to believe (boy does that piss them off when someone mentions that fact) Like, Plame definitely was not covert and there definitely was WMD and bush definitely is a christian and there is no such thing as global warming (cause rush and sean say so.)

So one has to conclude that wherever conservatives are today, its very cool, as they kick back and watch the sun circle the earth.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:49 PM
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1. This argument has no real power, alas
Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 12:53 PM by Orrex
Because all that a nay-saying Conservative has to do is wait for an unseasonally chilly day to say "where's your global warming now, eh?"

The facts of the situation are far too subtle and interconnected for the average mouth-breathing dittohead to grasp, since global warming can't readily be reduced to a soundbyte and a peek at the thermometer.


But DAYum, it's hot today.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:51 PM
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2. I have to chuckle at one of their previous arguments
that global warming was caused by the earth, at a time in history 100s of thousands of years apart is closer to the sun. Which is true, but this argument was forwarded by people who think the earth is about 6,000 years old.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:55 PM
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3. wanna see something?
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/2859#comment-223981

We're within a few days of setting a modern-observations record low for northern hemisphere sea ice extent; this is dramatic because we still have more than six weeks of typical melt season to go.

I'm actually a little freaked out by this. I've been watching it for a few weeks, but have hesitated to post because it's always dangerous to sound alarmist based on gut feelings and slivers of data.

Regardless of that, I feel fairly comfortable now stating that we have experienced an entirely new mode of sea ice melt in the northern hemisphere this year. For the first time that we've observed, the melt exposed large areas of open ocean while the artic sea was still exposed to summertime light. That is, in all previous years very little open water in the arctic basin itself was exposed until mid august at the earliest. This year, however, vast swaths of of artic ocean waters were open as early as mid July, when the entire ocean is exposed to 24/7, relatively-high-elevation incident light.


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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:59 PM
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4. Cool is relative. Dallas just experienced the coolest, wettest May
June, and July, since I have been here (30 yrs).
Global climate change is real!!
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:06 PM
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5. Just got a call from bro in NYC
Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 01:06 PM by Donnachaidh
And they've gone through some storms in the last 24 hours that are NEVER seen there. Even some thought of something close to a tornado taking off roofs in several areas.

But hey - there's no freaky weather due to climate change, is there? It's just god's will, right? Uh-huh. :eyes:
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:06 PM
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6. COOL
Its always 'cool' where I am at..................


:hi:

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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:23 PM
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9. Yep
I can remember freezing my ass off when we were off the coast of the Soviet Union in my boat (http://www.ssn578.com/).

The condensation was just pouring off the hull.

I wasn't aboard when they surfaced at the Pole, so I'm not qualified to talk about water that cold. :)

By the way, if you've not read "Silent Steel" by Stephen Johnson you should give it a try. It's a good discussion of why the Scorpion went down.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:07 PM
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7. It's been cool for summer all summer here. Doesn't have anything to do with what I believe

I think this week was our first day over 100.

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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:08 PM
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8. Isn't it supposed to be hot in the summer? nt.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:27 PM
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10. No. It's humid here and hot as hell, just like every August!!
:P

I'm running my AC at full tilt!!

But I do feel sort of guilty about that but then again, I like breathing :P

And I do keep the rest of the lights off and I only run the dishwasher at night.

Am I forgiven? :shrug:
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 02:03 PM
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11. A few degrees below "normal" here today
But then what is the normal temp supposed to be? Average? Mean? Median? Almost all of our record temps in Arizona were set in the 1st half of last century.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 02:49 PM
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12. We were in Phoenix in November 97
went to a NASCAR race. We lived in South Louisiana at the time. I was not acclimated to zero percent humidity and I was cooking pretty bad. My body likes and is used to the humidity. That was a tough trip for me (and in November.) We did take a sunrise, champagne breakfast balloon ride. That was very, very nice.
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:40 PM
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16. I was there too!
The natives thought it was a little cool, but if you had been here in january you would have frozen your nards off. I had my swimming pool pipes freeze and burst.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 03:33 PM
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13. Wow, it's August 8th and hot! that's never happened before.
Your lack of understanding of the terms weather and climate is leaving you open to ridicule.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 03:35 PM
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14. Believe it or not, it's still happening.
I prepare while the heads in sanders continue to denigh it. fine by me. they will die, I will live.

see it all works out in the end. LOL
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:39 PM
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15. Three days of 97 degrees, woohoo!
Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 04:40 PM by eppur_se_muova
But that's 107 with the wind chill.

http://www.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KSBY.html

Not a good time to be packing and moving. :(
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