Tony Snow Looks HORRIBLE

[orleans]

i saw a clip of him on olbermann last night and jeez!

he looked so sickly, and frail

what is wrong with this guy who appears to be dying and just can't give up this bullshit he flings at us for bush? where is his family? i just don't get this.

[jobycom]

1. What would you do with the rest of your life?

He's not going to live much longer by giving it up. As I understand it, anyway. He's doing what he wants to do.

[closeupready]

2. IMO, he really needs to stop and enjoy his family for a while.

Please, Tony, stop and smell the roses for a while with your loved ones. :)

[Disturbed]

3. Why expect this guy to change his lying because he is receiving

treatment for liver cancer?

[MannyGoldstein]

4. I'm Sure That His Relationship With The * Crew Is Comforting To Him

The smartest psychologist I know tells me that cognitive dissonance - essentially, admitting your wrong - is the most uncomfortable thing people grapple with. Given Snow's state, I'm sure that he doesn't have the "oomph" to consider that his life may have been spent advancing evil.

[BlooInBloo]

5. Presuably the administration keeps him on as a cancer-victim-shield....

... cowards that they be.

[Ediacara]

6. He IS dying

He has colon cancer and is undergoing treatment, which I suspect is why he looks so poorly. I agree though, that now would be a good time to spend time with your family rather than spending your last living moments lying through your teeth.

[melody]

10. We're all dying -- he's undergoing pretty nasty treatments, but that doesn't mean he's dying

It also sure as hell doesn't mean he's telling the truth.

I wince whenever I see him, but it's not from his visible signs of illness.

[CountAllVotes]

11. Tony Snow's cancer has metastasized

and it is in his liver now.

I don't know why he keeps going the way he does. Maybe this is how he is coping with his reality, I don't know.

I find it very sad myself having lost two members of my own family to metastasized cancer. :(

Please Tony, stop and take some time to spend w/your family.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

12. He is spending it with his family......

.....desperately trying to spin for the Bush family, who he clearly loves.

[Sadie4629]

16. I met a woman recently--

--who was diagnosed with Stage 4 colon cancer. One polyp, and it had metastasized and was in her liver. That was something like six or seven years ago. She had YEARS of treatment, including very, very radical surgeries, and has now been pronounced cancer-free. Given the will to live, and the willingness to undergo treatment that borders on torture, a diagnosis of Stage 4 cancer is not necessarily a death sentence.

[atreides1]

20. It depends on the person

Cancer affects each person differently, my mother was in remission for almost 5 years, and her will to live could have lit up a city the size of Honolulu, she underwent every type of treatment that her doctors could provide at the time, but in the end it still wasn't enough. By the time she passed she was taking liquid morphine for the pain, she died in her sleep at home, something that she had made very clear that she wanted to do.

[Sadie4629]

23. You are so right

Didn't mean to imply that ALL that is needed is a strong will. Just that miracles can happen sometimes.

[JuniperLea]

17. "coping with his reality"

I'm betting that's it. Poor thing probably thinks Bush can keep him alive... Bush, having clearly met the Devil at the crossroads, probably can.

[HughMoran]

26. It is horrible - lost an aunt recently to colon cancer

She ended up getting an infection and I will never forget trying to talk to her after the infection was rampant in her body - her brain was being eaten and she could not even communicate even though she was sitting up and looking at us :(

[CountAllVotes]

34. that is awful

the two cases I saw were fast. One gone within 3 mos.; the other w/chemo in abt. 6.

It was too late by the time it was discovered.

[beberocks]

7. I've heard that biggest regret of someone dying is not spending enough time with family

And spending too much time at the office. I think it is pretty
sad that Snow doesn't want to spend more time with his family.

[Disturbed]

9. Maybe he doesn't like his family or vica versa.

Could be the case.

[onenote]

30. or maybe he's doing what he and his family believe he should be doing

I can't believe the bullshit being spewed on this thread. For a bunch of supposedly progressive thinkers, I can't believe how judgmental suddenly people are (to say nothing of being amateur diagnosticians) about how someone chooses to deal with a serious and potentially terminal illness.

When I saw this kind of crap being thrown in the direction of John and Elizabeth Edwards from the RW after the announcement that her cancer had returned I wasn't surprised. But to see similar arguments (maybe dressed up a bit more politely, but still the same point) here is just disgusting.

In the past two years I've watched several friends die from cancer. I guarantee you that if either one of them had been able to go back to work, even part time, they would have. For a lot of people, its not just friends or family or work. All three can and are important.

[Ken Burch]

8. Not sure this is really a political issue.

If the guy IS dying, it's up to him what he does with his last months or days.
And who knows, perhaps staying there keeps him going.
But we need to be real careful about how we discuss this, or the Freeps could make us look very, very bad(not that they won't try anyway, but no need to make their job easier.)

[malaise]

13. It's unbelievable n/t

[I Have A Dream]

14. He needs his health insurance now more than ever. Maybe...

he's afraid that he'll lose it and will have a problem getting it again since he has a pre-existing condition if he were to leave this job. This is the reality for many, many Americans. Maybe it is for him also.

:(

[Vinca]

18. That was my thought. Insurance companies are ruthless.

They don't care if it's Tony Snow or Tony Blow. You leave your job, you lose your health insurance, you're up the proverbial creek.

[xultar]

15. I don't get it either. I can't see why BushCo won't tell him to go home.

Shows how selfish they are.

[Sadie4629]

19. Yes, and

does the same go for Elizabeth Edwards, who has been diagnosed with terminal breast cancer? How selfish is John being?
Tony Snow should spend his time as he chooses, and so should Elizabeth Edwards.

[xultar]

22. Well, lets be honest here. Edwards isn't as selfish as Bushco.

[Sadie4629]

27. Do you know either of them personally?

Similar diseases, similar prognoses, but a much different interpretation.

[xultar]

29. Let's just say I'd give Edwards the benefit of the doubt over BushCo any goddamned day.

[Tanuki]

32. Rove probably figures the press corps will be sympathetic to Snow because he is sick

and go easy on him instead of nailing him for lying.

[Virginia Dare]

35. I believe he was strongly coerced into taking this job on anyway..

wouldn't be surprised if there isn't some coersion to keep him there, but I think he probably believes that he's doing what he wants to do.

[watercolors]

21. You try to live your life as normal as possible.

Unless you are in his shoes, don't judge!I have a dear friend while dying of cancer made it to my art class. She wanted to feel normal, and it took great courage on her part to try and live her life that way. Cancer is so evil, but many people are so courageous as they deal with it. Please have some compasion for those who try thier best to deal with cancer! I have lost many dear friends to this, and I admired them all in coping with the challenge.

[HughMoran]

24. Yes, and lying through his teeth and belittling good people is normal for him

Why should he stop being a nasty jerk just because he's dying?

No need to redeem oneself - just go out lying and sleazing!

[Virginia Dare]

33. I think that's probably what he's doing..

after watching his interview with David Gregory, it appears as though he and his family are convinced he's going to beat this, or at least he's got his family convinced, particularly his children. Sad.

[NNN0LHI]

25. He has a great make-up person. The best actually

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/11/08/rec.bush.hollywood/

White House sees Hollywood role in war on terrorism

November 8, 2001 Posted: 7:10 PM EST (0010 GMT)


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush's top political strategist plans to meet with an array of entertainment executives Sunday to discuss the war on terrorism and ways that Hollywood stars and films might work in concert, in ways both formal and informal, with the administration's communications strategy.

The effort is spearheaded by senior Bush adviser Karl Rove and Jack Valenti, chairman of the Motion Picture Association of America, who attended a White House meeting earlier this week to lay the groundwork for the session.

The meeting is set for 11 a.m. local time at the Peninsula Hotel in Beverly Hills. A final roster of attendees is not set, but an industry source said major studio executives and and network entertainment chiefs were invited along with "top tier" creative minds from Hollywood.

[KharmaTrain]

28. I Just Tranfered A Video from 2004...

One of Bill Mahrer's Prime Time shows where he had Snow on the panel...and yes, the cancer has taken a toll. One can only imagine the pain the man is enduring as his body is withering away.

I don't agree with the guys politics and still despise his enabling, disembling and lying for this regime, but on a human level, I've seen what cancer can do to people and the need for them to remain active and feel they're still vital during these times. Sadly, I don't see him being around a year from now and I will hope when the time comes that he quietly fades from public view and those final days are with his family and his own retrospection.

[CTyankee]

31. I can't imagine spending my final days apologizing for the scum in the White House.

But I feel very sorry for him. I don't think he is a vicious person, just misled and sadly mistaken. He is doing this "for the team" and he must be a true believer to do it, despite the denial he must have to go through all the time. It is too bad. And it will be all the more disgusting when the repubs will crow that "he lost his courageous battle with cancer and was loyal to the administration to the end." I can just see it now...

[BearSquirrel2]

36. Snow is a MASTER!!!!

Word is, after his impending death, he'll be the spokesman for Satan himself. No one can lie as well as Tony!!!

[Shine]

37. Ultimately, it's just really sad, for both him and his family

:(

[shadowknows69]

38. You only leave the employ of the mob

feet first.