Watched "Bourne Ultimatum".......

[Postman]

Very good movie. Apropo to today's political climate, gov't secrecy and corruption. There's a reason Jason Bourne is on the run and back for revenge. He's intent on taking his country back, setting the record straight, holding those who are corrupt - accountable.

He is democracy. He is us.

Matt Damon is a great actor. I love what he said about comparisons between Jason Bourne and James Bond...."(Bond is) an imperialist and he's a misogynist. He kills people and laughs and sips martinis and wisecracks about it.

"Bourne is this paranoid guy. He's on the run. He's not the government; the government is after him. He's a serial monogamist who's in love with his dead girlfriend and can't stop thinking about her. He's the opposite of James Bond."

...Where are the real Jason Bourne's? They have names like Valerie Plame, Joe Wilson, Sibel Edmonds, Daniel Ellsberg, Lt. Watada, Cindy Sheehan, Tillman family...

[MadMaddie]

1. Hey Postman....you are right on (Spoiler if you haven't seen all 3)

It was a great movie...

What I also found facinating...that if you have seen all three Bourne movies....there is a theme running through them....The CIA top officials ALL claimed they were breaking the law because they were true Patriots....sound familiar?

did you get the same vibe?

[Postman]

3. It's modeled on the current fascist state of affairs in the US...

I loved the question Jason Bourne asked of his fellow assasin when Bourne was trapped and in the crosshairs of on the building getting ready to jump into the East River..."Do you realize who you work for?"....as if to suggest - my fellow countryman, your doing the dirty work of thieving, corrupt anti-democratic forces.....

[MadMaddie]

15. Indeed....

[lovuian]

2. it basis on MK Ultra mind control it gives me the creeps to

think that Timothy McVeigh
Virginia shooter
911 assasins

could be Black op

[FogerRox]

4. Manchurian candidate.....

[flyarm]

10. i have no doubt they are..there is a psy opps in blacksburg!! eom

[sofa king]

5. I just thought of something (Spoiler!)

There was a part at the end that kind of pissed me off, because I know from bitter firsthand experience that when you're asked to "volunteer," the only people who think they actually did so are the ones who said "yes."

But as I was writing this I realized that the film didn't overlook that charming little fact of the cloak-and-dagger life:

"What did he do?"

"It doesn't matter."

I know what he did. He said, "no."

[Nomad559]

6. If you have seen the movie

check out this video.

Guillermo In The Bourne Ultimatum (Jimmy Kimmel)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGXr4uOnBrw

:)

[Postman]

7. Hilarious...

Kimmel and Damon make a funny team...

[FARAFIELD]

8. i have to laugh

As a life long movie lover I was inspired that someone like greengrass who had just had a hit with the bourne supremacy would take on UNITED 93 (he had also done Bloody Sunday years earlier). United 93 was universally trashed here and thats a fact, now you hail him as being "appros pos" and "he is us" While last year he was a "right wing hack". He is us!!!! I wish i had saved all those threads.

[Postman]

12. I wish you saved them too because I've never commented on United 93.

I have no idea who Greengrass is..

[in_cog_ni_to]

9. We saw it the other night and it's one of the best movies I've seen in years. Did you hear

NSA mentioned? :scared: GREAT movie.

[KoKo]

13. I read all the Ludlum books and John LeCarre but was

afraid seeing this would throw me over the edge. Finally rented the "Good Shepard" last month and that one just about did me in. Didn't sleep well for days.

Somehow I feel we've been living in a Ludlum book for years now and living with it makes me not want to watch more of it.

Did the movie bother you?

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. It's chilling! We ARE living it. You really should try to watch it sometime,

Just so you can see what they're capable of. :scared:

[KoKo]

16. lol's...that was my point .....by reading Ludlum/LeCarre...I KNOW what

they are capable of. :scared: So, going to a movie or renting one that takes it out of the book...makes it WORSE for me.

I wasn't clear enough in my post. I read the Ludlum years ago (when he was alive and still writing)...so was forewarned when the Bushies stole the election and everything that has followed. .... So...seeing a movie about it, isn't much of a break for me. It's sort of overload...since I knew. :hi:

[Blue_Roses]

11. have you ever read any of Robert Ludlum's book's, the author behind this movie?

I Love, LOVE, LOVE his books! I've read many, but the "Bourne" books, I skipped since I saw the movies' first. I find a common theme in Ludlum's books. I just finished the "Paris Option" and wow, my hair was standing on ends.

I love the Bourne movies and I will try to read the books at sometime...

[Venus Dog]

17. If you're prone to seizures, sit far away from the screen

Greengrass is a terrible director (sorry folks). His use here of tight, up-close shots and frenetic editing is enough to send someone into an epileptic seizure - and that's a real warning. I didn't care for the second one as much as the first either, but I'm still a Jason Bourne & Ludlum fan, so I continue to watch.

At several points though, I had to close my eyes and just listen - it was actually hurting my head physically to watch the screen. Granted, I truly understand what sort of feeling the director was trying to elicit in the audience - paranoia, claustrophobia and it is definitely the darkest of all three films - which was good as the story this one tells is the most horrifying and something that we, as a people, have to face - that our own government kills its own agents (and soldiers IMHO). The truth is not pretty and this movie is not pretty - it's very disturbing. I just wish Greengrass was not given this task. I still think Liman did the best job in the first one.

With that said, I'm still telling friends they should see it - that's how important I believe the story is. Bringing in the character of the psychiatrist who led the mind-control program was truly awesome - played especially creepy by Albert Finney.

[sutz12]

18. Yeah, he could have used a steadicam...for some of it, at least.

Great flick, though! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Cha]

19. They never (spoiler for #2 alert)..

should have killed off his girlfriend in the less great #2 Bourne! She helped make the first one so cool.

Yes, I love Matt Damon and will see the 3rd sequel. I read those books by Robert Ludlum a long time ago and love how they brought them to life with Matt Damon(except for #2 so far).