I've been watching the Utah mine situation closely....

[Maddy McCall]

And I apologize if this is morbid to some of you.

What is the likelihood that these guys could still be alive? No food, no water, unknown oxygen content in the air, constant 58% temps...

What do y'all think?

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. Depending on the amount of water that they are in...

I would think that hypothermia would be their biggest problem.

[Maddy McCall]

4. It's so sad.

Yeah, I think that that's a major concern...I hope that they are dressed for the cool air.

I just can't imagine being in a pitch dark mine, no light, no food or water.

I have another thought, but I didn't want to post it in the OP...what if they intuited the mine collapse and hurried to another area of the mine, and are sealed there...what if the rescuers are drilling in an area completely away from where the guys are trapped?

I don't know much about this, but I'm terrified for them and their families.

:(

[emilyg]

2. By now - pretty slim chance

[Maddy McCall]

5. All we can do is hope and pray for these guys...

It's terrible.

:(

[emilyg]

20. Yes. And their poor families.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. My dear Maddy...

I've wondered this myself...

I very much doubt that any of them are still alive...

And, no, I don't think you're being morbid at all...

Just realistic...

Unfortunately...

[Maddy McCall]

6. Hey, Miss Peggy...

read my response to Tandy above.

It's so sad.

:(

[CaliforniaPeggy]

11. I did see that, sweetie...

And you're right...

It is so sad.

I always feel for miners...:(

[frogcycle]

7. I really can't speculate

I actually tried after I read your post.

You point out some factors. Whether they survived the collapse is another.

But there is no 'likelihood.' It's one or the other. Or a mix. I guess I have the same mindset as the rescuers. Don't speculate, just soldier on until it is proven fruitless. Until that is proven, the likelihood is greater than zero, so you act as if it were 100. I can't get myself to pick a number in between.

[Maddy McCall]

12. Yeah, the rescuers have to keep on going...

and assuming that they'll be rescuing lives.

I know...I apologize for the morbidity of this thread. :(

[Viva_La_Revolution]

8. Logic and gut-feeling concur...not good.

:(

[Maddy McCall]

13. Yeah...

I still hope that they are alive...but I'm afraid of what logic tells me.

:(

[bridgit]

9. I think the view on survivability for them is probably very dim...

I'd like nothing more than to see them come bounding out of there and hope they still do

[Maddy McCall]

15. Me, too, sweetheart.

Me, too.

:hug:

[lligrd]

10. I Think These Guys Were Screwed

the day they began working for that idiot owner.

[Maddy McCall]

16. It would be hard for me to...

work for such a jerk.

The guy has total disregard for the safety of his workers.

:(

[crim son]

14. It reminds me of when the russian sub Kursk sank and more

than a hundred sailors died. I had nightmares about that situation and this one is no better.

[Maddy McCall]

18. That was such a tragedy.

Again, I hate to be morbid, but I can't imagine a crueler death than to die because of lack of oxygen.

:(

[crim son]

22. Oh, you LOVE being morbid!

:rofl: Kidding. You know, I think I'd hate most to burn to death. But dying any way, far from the ones you love, in the cold and dark, hearing others fall silent around you... that would be unimaginable hell.

[Whoa_Nelly]

17. Oh, Maddy

Have been keeping an eye on and an ear to this, too.

I hope they are alive, but have a feeling that things underground at the cave in are much worse than just being caught in some sort of space that hopefully has air.

It's a terrible situation, and the owner of this mine pisses me off.


Holding hope for the miners and their families

[Maddy McCall]

19. I've been riveted to news about it...

I guess the "not knowing" is one reason I'm riveted.

I can't imagine what those families must think--how they are coping, what can possibly be said to them to ease their worry.

:hug:

[liberal renegade]

21. sadly, slim to none........

[Maddy McCall]

23. I just missed a live news conference from the Utah mines.

Dammit...I don't know what was said in that news conference...all I caught was that the small-diamater hole missed the pocket where the miners are thought to be.

:(

[JI7]

24. how often has this happened

are we just hearing about it more because of the 24 hour cable news cycle or has this happened all the time ?

were there any similar cases where they made it out alive ?

i really hope they are alive.

[Stargazer99]

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