Bush can't recall on Tillman

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/08/09/bush_cant_recall_on_tillman/?rss_id=

By Erica Werner, Associated Press Writer | August 9, 2007

WASHINGTON --President Bush said Thursday he can't recall when he learned that Army Ranger Pat Tillman died by friendly fire, not at the hands of the enemy in Afghanistan, as the Pentagon originally claimed.

"I can't give you the precise moment, but obviously the minute I heard that the facts that most people believed were true were not true, that I expect there to be a full investigation and get to the bottom of it," Bush said in response to a question at a news conference.

His comments came as congressional Democrats press an investigation to determine what the White House and top Defense Department officials knew about the circumstances of Tillman's death on April 22, 2004, and when. Though Tillman's direct superiors knew almost immediately that his death was friendly fire, the truth was kept from the public and Tillman's family for five weeks. snip

Tillman family members say they believe officials at the highest levels of government hid facts to limit public relations damage.

[autorank]

1. K*R He's incoherrent once again, indicating deceipt.

"I can't give you the precise moment, but obviously the minute I heard that the facts that most people believed were true were not true,(there's a missing phrase here, e.g., "I told my staff...") that I expect (wrong tense, "expected") there to be a full investigation and get to the bottom of it,"

So he can't even make sense on this most important question. He swings into the expected logic of his behavior "obviously the minute I heard that the facts that most people believed were true were not trut" Is that really the reason you'd be moved to action - because the public had been deceived. Truth to the public is vital, but there's something wrong here. We'd expect him to say something like -

"I got this information some time around (date) but I'll find out exactly when and get back to you. I was furious that the investigation was screwed up. Tillman was an American soldier and deserved an accurate account, as did his family and friends."

When people answer in the hypothetical to a fact question, it makes you wonder :wtf: . Just answer the question, don't give us a rationalization for how you'd behave. "Did you rob the store." "I'm totally opposed to robbing stores. Why would I?" I hate hearing garbage like that; which is what we're getting here.

That has more of a ring to it.

Great, more double speak from Orwell Central.

[Henryman]

13. "Indicating deceipt..." good point. I remember when

I was a kid and I could tell if someone wasn't telling the truth if they didn't answer the question but answered with a description of a situation. "Did you steal that candy Bar?" "I hate candy bars."
It made a come back with my kids.

[truth2power]

17. Very astute, Autorank. Most people don't pick up on this..

Take a look at this:

From Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths among Us. Robert D. Hare, PhD.

"But there is something else about the speech of psychopaths that is equally puzzling: their frequent use of contradictory and logically inconsistent statements that usually escape detection. " (125) <emphasis added>


Some examples given by the author:

"When asked if he had ever committed a violent offense, a man serving time for theft answered, 'No, but I once had to kill someone.'"

"A man serving a term for armed robbery replied to the testimony of an eyewitness, 'He's lying. I wasn't there. I should have blown his fucking head off.'"


"It is as if psychopaths sometimes have difficulty monitoring their own speech, and they let loose with a convoluted barrage of poorly connected words and thoughts." (126)

> > > >

Much as I sound like a broken record about this stuff, I'm terrified to think of what Bush's behavior really means for the American people.

[Richard Steele]

2. Does he remember the moment he invoked "Executive Privelege" to block the investigation?

What a lying piece of shit.

[K8-EEE]

5. If only we really had a "liberal media" so that would be asked!

:cry:

The whole Pat Tillman thing stinks to high heaven.

[rodeodance]

Wish the WH press would have asked about that!

[EST]

3. Aside from the collateral horror this bandy little rooster and his

band of merry criminals have burdened a weary world with, I wonder if many people of the rest of the world have any idea how utterly mortified, how knee-scrapingly horrified with embarrassment we are to have this little twit shoved up our a....?

There are rarely men of such twisted little troll brained insignificance who are known beyond their criminal cliques and rarer still that one gets elevated to such eminence. It is such a grim joke that I actually break down and laugh about it a little, sometimes, late at night, until I seem to hear one of those chuckles resembling a sob and I gotta change the subject, real fast.

[Stardust]

4. Like the opening of "Fahrenheit 911" ... it all seems like a dream.

Please wake me when it's over. I can't stand it no more.

[Disturbed]

6. The lie was kept going for 5 weeks.

He didn't get word about this for 5 weeks? This Asshole really thinks that everybody is as stupid as he is.

[rodeodance]

7. This is sure one jumbled sentence!

........
"I can't give you the precise moment, but obviously the minute I heard that the facts that most people believed were true were not true, that I expect there to be a full investigation and get to the bottom of it," Bush said in response to a question at a news conference.

[Botany]

9. So why then did he invoke executive privilege?

The whole thing stinks of a cover up.

[Wiccan Warrior]

8. I think next time I goto court

for anything I'm going to tell the Judge.....Sorry sir I don't recall....

[spanone]

10. the legacy of his entire administration....i don't recall.

[tanyev]

11. "I want to get to the bottom of this"

President Bush's chief spokesman said yesterday that the allegation that administration officials leaked the name of a CIA operative is "a very serious matter" and vowed that Bush would fire anybody responsible for such actions.

A senior official quoted Bush as saying, "I want to get to the bottom of this," during a daily meeting yesterday morning with a few top aides, including Rove. Senior intelligence officials said yesterday that the CIA filed what they termed a "crime report" with the Justice Department in late July, shortly after syndicated columnist Robert D. Novak, citing two unnamed administration sources, identified Wilson's wife by name. The CIA report pointed to a "possible violation of federal criminal law involving the unauthorized disclosure of classified information."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A17129-2003Sep29

The article was written Sept 30, 2003. Four years later, the bottom has not been reached. Nobody was fired. Scooter got a pardon. Bush must use a different dictionary than the rest of the world.

[B Calm]

12. Makes me think that the White House ordered his murder!

[Benhurst]

14. "Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?"

[Babsbrain]

15. Et tu, Brutus

No doubt it will be an inside job.

[Benhurst]

16. I meant to imply Tillman's death was an inside job. Why else all

the cover-up?