Guiliani Wants National ID System

[Joanne98]

Rudy Giuliani campaigned in Colorado Springs Friday.

As he drew a picture of a fence on a paper coffee coaster, he said he has plans to create an identification system for everyone in the country.

“We should know who’s here,” Giuliani said. “Every other country has a system, we’re just catching up.”

A national ID system is a nightmare. The Senate rejected funding for Real ID in July. If you've forgotten what the Real ID Act requires, see below:


The law dictates that, starting on May 11, 2008, Americans will need a federally approved, "machine readable" ID card to travel on an airplane, open a bank account, collect Social Security payments or take advantage of nearly any government service. Before issuing the cards, which would have to adhere to Homeland Security standards, states would be required to verify electronically that identification documents, such as birth certificates, presented by their citizens are authentic. (States that agree in advance to abide by the rules would be given until 2013 to comply.)

It's time to repeal the Real ID Act and rebuff all attempts at a national identification system.

A vote for Rudy is a vote for a surveillance society.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/8/11/2100/55450

[Turbineguy]

1. So we'll

know him everywhere?

[Gman]

2. The ID card corporations are spending big bucks

it ain't about security for the country. IT's about the ID card companies getting their share of the looting of the treasury.

[Joanne98]

4. First the ID card then the chip. It's about enslaving the entire world!

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

[HysteryDiagnosis]

3. We need a national ID system so that we will be able to tell

ourselves from the millions who cross the border illegally every year. What we need is a national border control system, and forget the rest.

[bunkerbuster1]

5. Thing is, with actual grown-ups in charge

and not imbecilic fascist fuckheads like Ghouliani or Chimpy, I wouldn't necessarily object to moving toward a national ID system. Actually, I'd prefer to make it a lot cheaper/easier to get passports, and have those become the de facto national ID.

[TwilightGardener]

6. Can't wait to see what they do with that massive database--

I'm sure no one will use it for unethical purposes.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

7. Hmmmmm....it's already been passed and coming.. The Real ID Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REAL_ID_Act

[HockeyMom]

8. He's given up idea of national DNA Database?

I remember when he was mayor he talked about getting the DNA from every child born and creating a national DNA database.

I don't remember what he proposed to do about everybody else.

[Yukari Yakumo]

9. We've done our part

Montana will not participate in the Real ID program.

[AlCzervik]

10. how many more id's do i need to prove i am me? I have a license, a passport

utility bills with my name on them, a debit card with my photo on it, a costco card with my pic on it.

[lpbk2713]

11. I've got a couple of DU bumper stickers.

That's all I need AFAIC.

[Oeditpus Rex]

12. 'Thank you for calling Pizza Hut. May I have your national ID number?'

Customer: Hi, I'd like to place an order.

Operator: I must have your NIDM first, sir.

Customer: My National ID Number, yeah, hold on, eh, it's, 3897950001-54-66689.

Operator: Thank you Mr. Phelps. I see your E-mail address is, [e-mail] and that you live at, 8257 Private Drive. Your home phone number is, 505-7633, your office number over at Brave New World Insurance is, 254-7697 and your cell number is, 733-7433. Which number are you calling from sir?

Customer: Huh? I’m at home. Where’d you get all this information?

Operator: We’re wired into the HSS, sir.

Customer: The HSS, what is that?

Operator: We’re wired into the Homeland Security System, sir. It will add only 15 seconds to your ordering time.

Customer: (sighs) Oh well — I'd like to order a couple of your All-Meat Special pizzas.

Operator: I don't think that's a good idea, sir.

Customer: Whaddya mean?

Operator: Sir, your medical records and commode sensors indicate that you've got very high blood pressure and extremely high cholesterol. Your National Health Care provider won't allow such an unhealthy choice.

Customer: What?!?! What do you recommend, then?

Operator: You might try our low-fat Soybean Pizza. I'm sure you'll like it.

Customer: What makes you think I'd like something like that?

Operator: Well, you checked out 'Gourmet Soybean Recipes' from your local library last week, sir. That's why I made the suggestion.

Customer: All right, all right. Give me two family-sized ones, then.

Operator: That should be plenty for you, your wife and your four kids, and your 2 dogs can finish the crusts, sir. Your total is $49.99.

Customer: Lemme give you my credit card number.

Operator: I'm sorry sir, but I'm afraid you'll have to pay in cash. Your credit card balance is over its limit.

Customer: I'll run over to the ATM and get some cash before your driver gets here.

Operator: That may not work either, sir. Your checking account is also overdrawn.

Customer: Never mind! Just send the pizzas. I'll have the cash ready. How long will it take?

Operator: We're running a little behind, sir. It'll be about 45 minutes, sir. If you're in a hurry you might want to pick'em up while you're out getting the cash, but then, carrying pizzas on a motorcycle can be a little awkward.

Customer: Wait! How do you know I ride a scooter?

Operator: It says here you're in arrears on your car payments, so your car got repo'ed. But your Harley's paid for and you just filled the tank yesterday.

Customer: Well, I'll be a #%#^*^&$%^$@#!

Operator: I'd advise watching your language, sir. You've already got a July 4, 2006 conviction for cussing out a cop and another one I see here in September for contempt at your hearing for cussing at a judge. Oh yes, I see here that you just got out from a 90 day stay in the State Correctional Facility. Is this your first pizza since your return to society?

Customer: (speechless)

Operator: Will there be anything else, sir?

Customer: Yes, I have a coupon for a free 2 liter of Coke.

Operator: I'm sorry sir, but our ad's exclusionary clause prevents us from offering free soda to diabetics. The New Constitution prohibits this. Thank you for calling Pizza Hut.

http://www.teamlaw.org/OrderPizza2008.htm



Edit: Just found a similar video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNJl9EEcsoE

[Alexander]

13. We ALREADY have a national ID. It's just like a driver's license...

If you don't qualify or don't want a driver's license, the card simply says "Identification" but looks identical to licenses in your state.