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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 06:02 PM
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Minutemen Caught Shooting At Mexican Immigrants
Below is a video dated on July 28th, 2007 that an "Edzul Ent" found of a Minutemen Chapter called the Mountain Minutemen shooting at Mexican Immigrants. "Edzul Ent" takes a minute to tell you how he/she acquired the video on YouTube. Have a look.

http://kcblueblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/minutemen-caught-shooting-at-mexican.html

Thats right Blue Readers,its official, The Minutemen are in fact shooting at people ; something that they have consistently denied.In looking for an uncut version of the video, we came across a YouTube user called to no surprise "thecockroachhunter"; a name that describes his attempt to hunt/kill Mexican immigrants ("cockroach" is a racist term for Mexican). In this footage he clearly is shooting at Mexicans and calling them names like "Puto" (Mexican Slang for Homosexual)

http://kcblueblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/minutemen-caught-shooting-at-mexican.html
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 06:54 PM
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1. Here's some more:
Click on 'The Rocket Scientist Can't Spell'. LOL

http://www.minutemenunvarnished.com/minutesite/bonsall.html

There is a wealth of videos at this site. Looks like people have stood at the day labor sites and filmed the minutemen in all their glory. 'Are You Serious' shows San Diego Minutemen founder, Jeff Schwilk, as he mounts a flashing light on his car and follows an employer away from, then back to, a day laborer site.



Across the top are names of cities. Click on them and watch videos filmed in each of those locations. It's morans galore!

http://www.minutemenunvarnished.com/minutesite/home.html

Looked for this guy but didn't see him:

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 06:55 PM
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2. what is it with freepers, grammer and spelling?
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 07:08 PM
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5. Please go easy on them, any word beyond 2 letters taxes their last remaining brain cell...
to the absolute limit.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 07:11 PM
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7. my neighbor asked me if my new neighbor "spoke Mexican" and why they didn't
have children because "You know they're Mexican" i'm like "WTF are you talking about?" for the record my new neighbors are from Brazil and they're a young couple so i guess they'll have kids when they're a little older or hey maybe they won't have any kids at all.
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 07:13 PM
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9. Republican NAMBLA

North American Mexican Bashing Losers Association.

North American Mexican Border Lounger Assasins.

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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 07:27 PM
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10. I can top that...
I worked driving an ice cream truck, and there was a Puerto Rican family, a Grandmother, Daughter, and the Daughter's 5 kids, living in a nice house in a neighborhood I worked. I loved this family, at least once a week, the Grandmother would spend at least 100 bucks on ice cream for the grandkids.

Anyways, I served them their ice cream one day, then continued up the street and a dad was waiting in his yard with his daughter for me. So I stopped, and he started bitching about "those damned immigrants" down the street, and how he can't understand them, etc. etc.

My first problem was the fact that these were Puerto Ricans for crying out loud! Not immigrants in the least, in addition I could understand the family just fine, only the grandmother had a noticeable accent. I got a feeling that this bastard didn't try to be a "good neighbor" to this family at all.

Just a note, this was a Upper Middle Class neighborhood, generally a poor area, people around this neighborhood just don't buy ice cream from our trucks, but from delivery services like Swan's. In fact, the ONLY reason why I went up that street at all was because of the Puerto Rican family, usually no one else buys ice cream.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 09:13 PM
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12. It's sad but true....
The illegals give the honest, hard-working Hispanic American citizens a bad name. :(
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 09:47 PM
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16. That's a hot steaming load of bullshit, the guy is a racist...
Edited on Sat Aug-11-07 09:52 PM by Solon
I'm sure if it were an Asian family, he'd be bitching about them, or a black family, it doesn't matter to racists, they are racists for fuck's sake!
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:16 PM
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19. And they dont pay taxes like the MSM always says they do.
They pay Social Security taxes and I believe thats it. So as our tub of a country already has a leak, people are strolling in, taking water from our tub and not putting any back and no one has an answer!

The taxes part kills me, pay into our system and I could care less because our government certainly doesn't!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:50 PM
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24. GOSH! How do "they" get out of paying
Edited on Sat Aug-11-07 10:58 PM by bvar22
*Sales Taxes

*Gasoline Taxes

*Property Taxes (Landlords pass this one on to tenants)

I think you meant that some don't pay Income Taxes.
Which tax bracket does less than $6/hr put someone in?

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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:42 PM
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27. The ones I know of all work in the restaurant I left.
Edited on Sat Aug-11-07 11:46 PM by superkia
The lowest paid is 9.50 and the highest is 14.50 so maybe its different in your area but Maryland restaurants pay the wage I speak of. But yeah should have clarified income tax, it sucks when I made allot more money than they did before taxes but after taxes they are about at my level. I really like it when they laugh at me because of how much I have to work as a salaried employee and the pay I get after taxes compared to theirs. They also jokingly thank me for the new soccer complex that my taxes pay for in their neighberhood.One guy is on his third house in two years, he knows allot of people that come in illegally, some say he is part of one of those gangs but he doesn't seem like a bad person, he provides them a place to live and they pay the mortgages for him. He was working two jobs but after he filled his first house he was making more from his tenants than his mortgage and quit his morning job and stayed where I worked. He then bought a second house, did the same thing and now a third. He has 3 houses worth almost 1.5 million and works one job making 13.50 an hour.

If it weren't so illegal, I would love to do that and own a home but its too risky, I'll stay in my apartment. He said if he gets caught he will go home and just come back with new papers and I.D.

It's insane knowing how some of it works, most of them paid around $5000 to get here and around $75 for I.D and $75 for social security cards. I tried explaining to them how if they have a S.S # that belongs to someone in their state, it could screw the person in certain cases but they really didn't get what I was saying.

Sorry for the general term of "they" I meant the ones Ive met in my 13 years working in restaurants, not any illegal immigrants I haven't met and don't know. The people I speak of have been great people to meet, taught me allot about their situation and where their culture but I still disagree with them not paying taxes.

Its a crazy messed up world!
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 03:11 AM
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41. Shame on you
"If it weren't so illegal, I would love to do that and own a home but its too risky"
Right, you'd be criminally exploiting those poor immigrants.

But an illegal immigrant runs a rooming operation for other illegals, well he's just an enterprising entrepreneur.

:sarcasm:as if it's needed.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 09:42 AM
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46. I was BORN here...
...worked until disabled, and maybe THREE times ended up not getting a full refund from the Feds for taxes.
Hell, until Bush changed the law, I was eligible for EIC, so I'd get back more than I put in.
State taxes, only partial refund, but still...

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:45 PM
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28. They pay sales taxes and property taxes
And they pay federal and state taxes but don't always file returns for refunds.

So you believe incorrectly.

And I have an answer. Penalize the employers who hire undocumented workers.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:54 PM
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30. I agree about the corporations but the government doesnt.
They said they just claim I believe it was 9 dependents, I think thats what they said was the max they could and when they showed me their check stubs, they would pay around $60 on a two week check. Its been awhile but I thought it was S.S. taxes and maybe medicare? Maybe the stubs I saw were fake and what I read wasn't real and they are all paying taxes. I occasionally speak to some of them still even tough I don't work with them but I will see if I can get a hold of a stub and scan it into my computer, hiding their personal info of course. At one job 18 of the 20 kitchen employees had notices sent to the store saying that there were problems with their numbers but nothing was ever done? I don't know why the government wasted the paper to send a notice just to not do anything?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:58 PM
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31. I'm thinking maybe you don't know the whole story?
:eyes:
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 12:03 AM
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33. I will try to get as many stubs as possible and then
you can apologize for telling me what I know and putting the cool little :eyes: on your post like you know what Ive seen. Until then I'm done because this will just look like I am the one being a smartass when I am only stating facts, not telling someone else what they have seen. And after you have seen the stubs if you are correct I will post apologizing to you. Deal?

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 12:16 AM
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36. And you have access to these pay stubs how?
Not to mention posting them on the internet violates several privacy laws. But hey go ahead, knock yourself out.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 12:28 AM
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39. You are better than this, I see you have many, many posts.you are a vet.
Look,I am not trying go back and forth here ignoring what we each say, if anything maybe one of us will learn something, thats what its all about, a search for knowledge. Dont get upset and not even read a post before you respond.

I copied this from post #30:

"I occasionally speak to some of them still even tough I don't work with them but I will see if I can get a hold of a stub and scan it into my computer, hiding their personal info of course."

And this from #33

" And after you have seen the stubs if you are correct I will post apologizing to you. Deal? "

I think what I offered is a good way to clear this up so that we don't look anymore immature than we do already! This making statements without facts is us just running at the mouth so that we look like we were in the right. I will make the post in general discussion stating that I apologize to proudBlib if I am incorrect and I assume you will do the same if I you are incorrect.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 02:53 AM
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40. No I am not a vet
That is only one mistake you have made.

I read your post thoroughly. And I brought up a good question. How do you have the right to share anyone's pay stub on the internet? Answer: you don't.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #2
15. you mean "grammar?"
:rofl: :hi:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:06 PM
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18. i've been waiting.
:toast: :rofl:
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:48 PM
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23. "It burns! It burns like hygeine!" (nt)
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 04:43 PM
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48. Grammar
Just sayin...
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 06:58 PM
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3. k&r...n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 07:06 PM
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4. "We must kill the Tutsi cockroaches"
just saying....
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 12:18 AM
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37. First they came for the Mexicans . . .
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 06:23 AM
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44. exactly
:(
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 07:10 PM
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6. Is anyone surprised? recommended.
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 07:13 PM
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8. K&R
It's one thing to have problems with our immigration policy and its enforcement (or lack thereof); this is something else altogether.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 08:19 PM
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11. C'mon..does this guy look like he would shoot anyone?
:sarcasm:
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 09:29 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. Only if
they had a KFC bucket that he thought was full!
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:25 PM
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21. If he passed gas, he might
injure someone!
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 12:09 AM
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35. There's no border between his head and his ass.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 03:41 AM
Response to Reply #35
42. LOL!!
:rofl:
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 09:37 PM
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14. Some of us DUers have always known what they were about
They had (and HAVE) their defenders here, too. But we're like, we KNEW about them, just as almost all of us here KNEW about the illegal Iraq Attack without having the so-called sophisticated intelligence resources at the disposal of our leaders in Congress. But here is that 2-3 yrs old graphic about the Minutemen and their SLAVE flags:
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2005/08/minutemen-home-for-extremists_08.html

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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:03 PM
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17. Those aren't Minutemen
Edited on Sat Aug-11-07 10:03 PM by C_U_L8R
those are thugs, freeps and crooks ...with guns.
They shame our nation with their hate.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:25 PM
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20. Fucking pricks!
Gotta stop them damn mesicans from ruinin' 'merica. Hating for hate's sake!
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:47 PM
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22. My brother is A texan
and he loves these guys. A couple of months ago we got in A shouting match over the immigrant problem and he thinks we should declare a DMZ and shoot on site at the border.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:50 PM
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25. Why do the immigrants bother people like this so much?
Even the illegals?

So what? I mean, there are worse things in the world.
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:03 PM
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26. gotta have someone to blame
scapegoating is A proud American tradition.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:51 PM
Response to Reply #22
29. LinkTV aired a documentary about these guys.
Most of them have records -- wife beating, drug dealing, illegal guns and shooting EACH OTHER. Just what you'd expect from these "men".
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:59 PM
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32. Did you watch any of those videos?
They are fucking crazy. The women are the worst.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 12:21 AM
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38. It's freeper porn. So creepy to know we're sharing a planet
with these criminals.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 12:08 AM
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34. Well who could have imagined?
I think I know who couldn't have.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 04:36 AM
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43.  K & R.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 04:41 PM
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47. From the looks of these photos these ole duffers couldn't make it 50 yards without collapsing.
This is all fantasy military stuff . . . reliving their macho dreams of youth!
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MLFerrell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 09:42 AM
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45. Ummm, "puto" isn't Mexican slang for homosexual per se...
Edited on Sun Aug-12-07 10:07 AM by MLFerrell
It's the Spanish word for "male whore".

Mexican slang for homosexual (i.e. faggot in English) is "joto", "puñal", or "maricón".

Not that that makes it any better and/or different, but I'm all for accuracy in translation.

EDIT: spelling
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 04:43 PM
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49. I think there are a lot of people here who would have no problem with this
the "they broke the law, they aren't human" crowd.
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