thegreatcause2
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Sun Aug-12-07 05:29 PM
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Is it over? Has Hillary been "made" as the candidate to be in 2008? |
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Maybe it is where I live, but what I hear from the media is that it is a foregone conclusion that Hillary has it sewn up. Does anyone think that someone else could stop the Hillary express?
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robcon
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Sun Aug-12-07 05:32 PM
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1. Of course some one could topple Clinton. No primaries yet. |
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However, I think it would take a major mistake, IMO, by her, or an embarrassing faux pas for her to falter.
That has happened lots of times (Gary Hart, Howard Dean, Edmund Muskie) so the chance of Clinton losing is not remote.
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Sun Aug-12-07 05:34 PM
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2. Be nice if y'all waited till we VOTED. |
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Sun Aug-12-07 05:34 PM
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3. I don't know -- Why don't you ask President Dean????? |
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Because around this time last time media told us Dean had the nomination all sown up/
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Sun Aug-12-07 05:35 PM
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4. Psssst.....Edwards is leading in Iowa. |
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Just thought I'd point that out.
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Sun Aug-12-07 05:39 PM
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10. dam! you are always bringing this up |
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come on get on the hay-wagon, hillary`s the appointed one! as much as i despise the whole iowa straw poll deal i`d love to see him take iowa..
unless he does something really dumb he`s my choice..
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madrchsod
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Sun Aug-12-07 05:35 PM
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5. yes it is...she`s unstoppable now |
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Sun Aug-12-07 05:36 PM
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6. unless Al Gore steps into the race....yes |
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I think the stars say Hillary besides it will be nice having Bill in the White House again!
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Sun Aug-12-07 05:37 PM
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7. It's hard to hold a frontrunner position. |
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We'll see how her team handles this autumn, when the way grows steeper.
I don't see any of the other Democratic candidates backing off any. If anything, they've picked up the pace and are pressing even harder.
I don't think any supporters of the other candidates believe Senator Clinton has it wrapped up.
The primary season can be a wild time. What if John Edwards wins in Iowa, Bill Richardson wins in Nevada a couple days later, and Barack Obama takes New Hampshire, within the same week or so?
Who's frontrunner then?
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Dover
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Sun Aug-12-07 05:37 PM
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What happens to all the funds collected by a candidate if/when they drop out of the race?
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thegreatcause2
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Sun Aug-12-07 06:06 PM
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Edited on Sun Aug-12-07 06:07 PM by thegreatcause2
I have heard that they live off the unused funds as if it was an annuity from heaven. That is why you see proven losers run again and again.
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The Backlash Cometh
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Sun Aug-12-07 05:39 PM
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9. I wouldn't have agreed with it before now, |
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but it's true that she is a great polarizer. And I thought it would be easy for her to take back the moderate vote, primarily because the moderate voter was never in favor of the impeachment over a lie that involved a blow job, (remember, Clinton had more than 60% support during that vote), but there is another group, one that is thinking just the opposite, and doesn't want BILL CLINTON back in the oval office because of what he did. The visual is too great for them. As expected, we're talking about older Seniors. Hillary needs to find some way to overcome that unexpected resistance.
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Sun Aug-12-07 05:51 PM
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11. No, because Gore can still run. |
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Gore would beat Hillary in New Hampshire, Idaho and Pennsylvania according to the current polls, which also indicate he's already neck-and-neck with her in California - without even announcing.
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Sun Aug-12-07 06:14 PM
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13. The media manufacturing of candidates is appalling. |
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Can't say it gives me much hope for the future of the country. I will continue to vote, but increasingly wonder why...
BHN
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Sun Aug-12-07 06:14 PM
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I find this sort of "propaganda" disgusting. "It's decided. Don't bother to support anyone else."
I'm a female and I don't especially like Clinton. I think her political ambition is more important to her than the issues - in other words, I think she's been bought since she's been in the Senate..if not before c.f. health care.
Not only that, she is DLC, and as kos noted today, the DLC as "kingmakers" sucks. the netroots do not accept this. The DLC is wrong to assume that people like me will automatically vote for whomever they choose because we "have to." I'm ready to write in a candidate or stay home...even tho I've voted in every election since I've been legal. But I have really had it with politics as usual. The system has been broken by the Bush regime and congress has not done enough to halt the bush/cheney power grab. Clinton was part of that congress.
I also don't like politics by family. look what we've had to contend with over the last seven years. I cannot stand that "inheritance" of power that comes with "dynasties." T. Kennedy's support of the rich in nantucket sound over the installation of windmills 5 miles offshore is pretty disguting. He jumped the shark long ago. but he gets elected on a name.
I also don't think it would be good for a democratic admin to constantly have to deal with the issue of the first clinton prez as a propaganda bit by the right wing. I want to move on, to have a candidate that inspires. And quite frankly, Hillary does not inspire me. If she's like Bill, she'll be in line for the best conservative candidate in the last thirty years.
I am to the point at which I wonder if we as a nation can function. I don't think Clinton will change this.
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BeHereNow
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Sun Aug-12-07 06:22 PM
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15. The DLC does NOT represent all democrats, that's for SURE. |
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I too resent the assumption by the DLC that we will all fall into a robotic line dance to the polls to vote for THEIR corporate favored candidate. 8 years of Clinton followed by 8 years of Bush, to be followed by who knows how many more years of Clintons, is NOT my idea of a democracy. BHN
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Sun Aug-12-07 06:23 PM
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16. We don't have to be lemmings. We can vote on issues instead of letting MSM determine our vote. |
thegreatcause2
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Sun Aug-12-07 06:36 PM
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18. I think you are right |
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but just read the New York Times, the way they fawn over Hillary is disgusting.
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Sun Aug-12-07 06:26 PM
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17. Dunno. I haven't been watching MTV lately. n/t |
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Sun Aug-12-07 07:01 PM
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19. If you are a TRUE Democrat there is no other choice... |
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at least that's what the Hillary campaign wants you to believe.
The problem is most Americans want someone other than the so-called establishment candidates and the continuation of another dynasty in the White House.
That is a HUGE unknown that may end up sinking Hillary and the GOP establishment candidate, and instead put Kucinich or Ron Paul in as front runners.
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Sun Aug-12-07 07:17 PM
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the worse things get, the harder for Hillary to hold the annointed spot. Things will be more volatile and anything could happen.
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Sun Aug-12-07 07:48 PM
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21. The corporate pigs & media whores have chosen her...let THEM vote for her...i will NOT. n/t |
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