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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 11:56 PM
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Man Orders Girlfriend To Have Sex With Her 10-Year-Old Son (military contractor)
From the AP

EAST ST. LOUIS, Ill. -- A military contractor is going to federal prison for enticing his live-in girlfriend to have sex with her 10-year-old son.

Casey Carson, who lists addresses in both Illinois and Dellroy, Ohio, a town about 20 miles southeast of Canton, was sentenced Monday to 45 years in prison.

The government says 27-year-old Carson told the child's mother that she and her son would have a closer relationship if they were intimate.

According to authorities, Carson brought the boy from his home in Missouri for visits and then orchestrated and photographed the sexual conduct.

Carson was arrested last September while home from his job as military contractor in Kuwait. (snip)


http://www.newsnet5.com/home-backup/13888853/detail.html

:mad: :mad: :mad:
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:03 AM
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1. Um. Why hasn't the mother been charged?
If she was forced, she's a victim too. However, some pervert's ideas are not an excuse for her to choose to abuse her own child.

The poor kid.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:08 AM
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2. Seriously
From the headline, I assumed he held her at gunpoint and actually forced her to perform the act. I didn't lick on the link, but I hope the child has been taken from her at least.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 01:35 AM
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10. I tend to read between the lines with things like this:
According to authorities, Carson brought the boy from his home in Missouri for visits and then orchestrated and photographed the sexual conduct.

Photographs that could be used to blackmail and control both of them for life. I think you can bet there was some coercion going on.
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flying_monkeys Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:13 AM
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3. There must be more to this story...
(I mean, it is awful for a grown Mom to have sex with her 10 year old ewwwwww!)

But that story leaves a lot of gaps as to the WHY and HOW and WHAT COMPELLED HER/CONTRACTOR TO DO THAT, kwim?


Curious that she wasn't charged (yet)....

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Kiouni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:44 AM
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4. I'm thinking drugs
for everyone because there is no other way.
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:46 AM
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5. yeah, I really hate those short AP stories sometimes...
Sometimes all that's necessary is the outline of the story, but when they're truly screwed up stories like this, you want to have as much information as possible. Instead, you're left with this awful tidbit of information, so the story/image is in your head, but you don't get the relief of having the numerous other questions answered.

Kind of like that skit on an episode of SNL a while back with Jerry Seinfeld where they had a running joke on a fake news broadcast that a "household item that is deadlier than cyanide! You may be using it as we speak! More information coming up!" Either tell me all at once or don't tell me at all and let me be happy in my ignorance of this story.


Was she forced at gunpoint? Was there a steady stream of abuse so she felt helpless to resist? Does his being a "contractor" in Iraq actually have anything to do with this, or is it just a matter of fact? Etc.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:49 AM
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6. Contractors in Iraq are subject to no law- obviously, he is used to operating as such.
Who knows what warped things this man did in Iraq- with no oversight.
I'd guess he came home feeling above the law here too.
Scary thought- those fucks walking among us.
BHN
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:57 AM
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8. Except he wasn't in Iraq
The article says Kuwait.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 01:26 AM
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9. And? Contractors in the ME are not subject to ANY law, whether in Iraq or Kuwait- SO
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 01:26 AM by BeHereNow
Your point is?
Nice F-U avatar btw...
BHN
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 03:35 AM
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14. Do you have a cite for that?
The immunity in Iraq dates from an edict issued by Bremer shortly before he left office in 2004, which said that contractors in Iraq "shall not be subject to Iraqi laws or regulations in matters relating to the terms and conditions of their contracts". That's specific to Iraq, and I wasn't aware that a similar immunity existed throughout the region, including Kuwait, which is not currently a war zone.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:58 PM
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15. No, I do not have a "cite" but I would say it's a safe bet.
It's highly unlikely that, given the atmosphere of lawlessness where ever US contractors
go on this planet- think DYNCORP, that the majority of contractor employees
are worried about consequences.
The US has a LONG history of contracting thugs, installing them in other countries
to protect corporate interests, and turning a blind eye to illegal acts committed
by their mercs.
BHN
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 02:25 AM
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12. yeah, my mistake on that...
I said he was in Iraq in my post, even though I read the article and saw he was in Kuwait. :dunce:

It's still begs the question of why it's mentioned in the story, which is again why I hate those short blurbs so much. Does his being a contractor have any relevance to the crime? We don't know, and all we're left with is speculation. Thanks, AP!
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 03:01 AM
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13. Relevance none. zilch, nada, nothing.
It's pretty standard media practice to report irrelevant personal details of an individual. Age, occupation, locality. I believe it's called colour.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:53 AM
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7. Bush voter?
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 02:10 AM
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11. Do you even have to ask?
Absolutely.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 07:01 PM
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16. So which was it - ordered, enticed, told, or orchestrated?
Bad writer, BAD!

(And why did the woman go along with it?)
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 07:06 PM
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17. Okay, So
why didn't she just refuse and dump the guy? Did he hold a gun to her head or something?

I wouldn't ever let some Twerp force me into something.

Sounds weird. :crazy:
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 07:21 PM
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18. I'd lay money that meth was involved.
Similar stories can be dug up elsewhere around the country if you're willing to look (these kinds of stories usually don't get publicity, in order to protect the child-victim).

Meth increases sexual drive while dramatically lowering sexual inhibitions. People will engage in sex acts on meth that they would NEVER consider sober. Sex with kids, sex with multiple partners, and sometimes even sex with animals. I posted here some time ago about a local story, where a guy high on meth violently raped his preteen daughter. When he came doen and realized what he'd done, he put a bullet through his own head.

If the mom was an addict, he could have used the drugs as leverage to get her to do what he wanted. Hardcore addicts will do almost ANYTHING for their next high, and with the lowered inhibitions that using this drug creates, it's not a stretch to see where some tweakers might have made a game out of sleeping with her kid.

Of course, it's also possible that she's just a pedophile and they simply haven't preceded with her trial yet. Female pedophilia is rare, but it does happen. Drugs are more likely the answer though.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 07:55 PM
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19. I'd lay money that physical abuse and threats were involved and
an obvious mental health issue, on both adult parties
and I'll bet they were both sexually abused as children.
They both think that that behavior, incest, is 'normal'.
Whacked in the head, the both of them! :puke: Sick fucks!
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 08:05 PM
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20. Couldn't She Just Be Freakin' Stupid?
The article said the man told her she'd have a closer relationship with her son if they were intimate.

It doesn't sound like he forced her, or drugged her, or blackmailed her or abused her. It sounds like he fed her a bullshit line and she fell for it because she's a freaking moron.

SOOOOOOO many scary parents out there.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 08:20 PM
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21. Could be a lot of things but we all do know that
they're both freaking morons!! She could be a mental midgit, for all
I know but I'll bet she came from an abusive family upbringing and it's
obvious he sure as hell did!!

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 08:23 PM
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22. orders? really? Are they planning on charging the mother with sexual assault anytime?
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