Should we look into it?

[JFN1]

Once we get the for-profit medical/insurance industry squared away, I believe this country is long overdue to take care of another parasitic group/industry that has kept a stranglehold on Americans for two centuries, or more, and appear to have absolutely NO remorse about their industry, or how BADLY it affects our nation.

Lawyers.

Lawyers are, in every State of the union, considered 'Officers of the Court.' So, when was the last time a judge, or a bailiff, or a court reporter, or a clerk, got a million bucks for doing THEIR jobs, as officers of the court?

I don't believe our nation is served by a system of justice that imparts justice based on the size of one's wallet. Quality legal care is as much a right as quality medical care, especially when we have a system of justice built around receiving legal care from a licensed professional.

Sure, I can represent myself - if I want to lose. Judges don't take self-representation seriously - anymore than does the general public.

Will removing profit from the legal system cripple the legal system?

Or will it weed out 'bad' lawyers and replace them with people passionate about the Law, who practice accordingly?

Your thoughts, please.

[Jim Sagle]

1. Corporatist hogwash!

[dysfunctional press]

2. "Once we get the for-profit medical/insurance industry squared away..."

:rofl:

it AIN'T gonna happen- not in any of our lifetimes.

[burrowowl]

3. Because of Corporate lawyers

we have more lawyers in the U$ than all of the world put together, kind of like our defense budget.

[sandnsea]

4. How to hold corporations accountable

We have an administration that has not appointed a chair to the consumer protection agency. These are the same people who are telling you regulations will strangle business and push the cost of goods so high you won't be able to afford them.

So tell me. When the first kid dies from some poison on a Chinese toy - how much money will it take to teach the corporation to be more responsible?

[Mind_your_head]

5. There is a LOT of 'back-story' behind attorneys, lawyers, counselors, AND 'the BAR'

(aka, the 'Bar' Association)....which shouldn't even be permitted to exist(?) here in the United States because of it ties to monarchy and the crown of England.

On a quick google search, I found this one, which doesn't seem too bad of a place to start, but there's a WHOLE lot more to the story (and I certainly don't know it all, or even a very good fraction....perhaps some/most attorneys/lawyers/practioners don't really know it either? :shrug:)

http://www.angelfire.com/az/sthurston/Hiding_Behind_the_BAR.html

If people want genuine solutions to issues/problems, we have to dig back to the roots of it all. DU'ers are some of the best truth-diggers around (despiste the efforts of some to throw us off track)....so if you want to 'line up' to tackle this one....research the origins of the 'Bar'.

Peace,
M_Y_H

[burrowowl]

6. Kick for the Night!

[Mind_your_head]

7. Why do we *hate* most attorneys......do your homework

<snip>
A BAR licensed Attorney is not an advocate, so how can he do anything other than what his real purpose is? He can't plead on your behalf because that would be a conflict of interest. He can't represent the crown (ruling government) as an official officer at the same time he is allegedly representing a defendant. His sworn duty as a BAR Attorney is to transfer your ownership, rights, titles, and allegiance to the land owner. When you hire a BAR Attorney to represent you in their courts, you have hired an officer of that court whose sole purpose and occupation is to transfer what you have to the creator and authority of that court. A more appropriate phrase would be legal plunder.
<snip>

http://www.angelfire.com/az/sthurston/Hiding_Behind_the_BAR.html

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Stop thinking that 'people (lawyers) are doing things in YOUR own interest'....it's COMPLETELY THE OPPOSITE! And you 'wonder' why you dislike them....you don't understand their allegiance....and it's not you (which is what you thought....you're paying them good money afterall, then WHY don't they represent you as you had hoped? Here's an answer! :think:

Mind_your_head

[lvx35]

8. I think the reform needs to go deeper, in to law itself.

There shouldn't have to be be so much damn artistry to the law that only the highly paid can really make it sing. I have no suggestions though, I am not well enough informed on the matter.

[JFN1]

9. Excellent

You are right - whatever happened to plain language the average person can understand? Things are not usually as complicated as they are often made to seem.

[marions ghost]

10. There are a LOT of lawyers

--those who work for business and corporations especially--who are just overpaid professional liars.

They have no interest in any concept of justice. It's 'win at any price.' Their JOB is to screw people over.

The average person has a hard time in this system. :(