tweety on conservatives VS liberals

[radfringe]

briefly caught tweety doing analysis on the mentality of conservatives VS liberals

he said Conservatives want leaders, Liberals want committees, and then went on to say how conservatives want to follow leaders to get things done, as opposed to liberals wanting to discuss things via committee and this prevents things from getting done

my take on it - conservatives want to be blind followers and told what to do, when to do it and how to do it, whereas liberals are more independent thinkers want to explore options before setting things into motion.

this highlights some of the more recent posts here on the DU where people have complained about criticism of the DEM candidates, and the dem controlled congress -

it means we don't take things blindly, it means we think.

[Skidmore]

1. I also heard that exchange and he said that conservatives want a "daddy."

[Wetzelbill]

3. I remember him saying something before about

Republics being the "Daddy" party, and Dems were the "Mommy" party. Talk about trite generalization.

[WCGreen]

7. Well, Bill, that's because conservatives like to be spanked...

Owwww...

Do it again sir, harder....

[Wetzelbill]

8. diaper or no diaper, that is the question

:)

[WCGreen]

9. It DEPENDS on if they are astronuts....

[Wetzelbill]

2. foolish people will follow the loudest most bellicose idiot for no

other reason than that person is the loudest most bellicose idiot around.

Smart people will sit down and figure out the best way to do something.

So most Dems would rather exercise a little judgement and do the right thing, then follow some clown into a disaster. I'd say that's the difference. It's also why slogans hypnotize the dumbfucks too. Nobody is more resolute than a fool.

[ShortnFiery]

4. "loudest most bellicose idiot"= Tweety: Shameless journalistic whore for the ruling political class

:puke: :thumbsdown:

Yet, like the horrific and lazy programming crap called *reality TV* the M$M continues to force this disgusting man and his cohort, Tim Russert, on the American Populace. Yes, we have nothing less than SHAMELESS out-of-touch *empty suits* running America's M$M these days. :(

[Wetzelbill]

6. the "Bellicose Idiot" theory fits best with Bill O'Reilly

not much else could explain that guy's career.

Well yeah, people don't like to think much nowadays. A colleague of mine at a college paper four years ago went around and interviewed students on campus and asked them basic questions like who is the Secretary of State, the National Security Advisor etc. Most people, even on a college campus couldn't even answer those. You could stop somebody on the street and ask: "Who is Robert Gates?" and most people wouldn't be able to answer it correctly. It's like we've been numbed by all the shit shoveled in front of us every single day. I bet after you asked them the Gates question, you then asked a question about American Idol or Survivor, many more people could get that. It's a sad state of affairs.

[ShortnFiery]

10. IMO, Tweety is more of a traitor - he promotes confusion and superficial values.

I bet he's the Ministry of Propaganda's favorite Journalist - the true "go to" guy who is always invited to the most opulent political ruling class's soirees. :puke: :thumbsdown:

I despise Tweety more than I ever have disliked O'Reilly. Why? Because he PRETENDS to be non-partisan. IMO, Tweety's TRUE Political loyalties always lie with the corrupt upper echelon players within both parties.

[Mythsaje]

5. Good leaders surround themselves with advisors who

actually KNOW things. They are given advice depending on the situation by the people who know the most about those situations and the leader decides.

Of course, that's not the way these pinheads operate. The leader gets advice, ignores the advice, fires the person who gave him the advice he didn't like, and then dives grinning into the big whirling wheel of blades, dragging the rest of us right along with him.

Tweety's a dumbfuck.

[Poiuyt]

11. What a ridiculous analysis! I hope someone challenged him about it

Conservatives (current ones at least) may want a more authoritative leader and liberals a libertarian one. But saying that liberals want to rule by committee is clearly a slight.

And WHAT is Tweety's obsession with daddies? That's all he talks about these days.

[Bitwit1234]

12. One of the posters put a message that FDR said

he described the difference between democrats and republicans and I meant to print it out and didn't. But in my opinion and I am sure you all would agree that is the difference. It was something to the effect about using your legs does anybody remember.

I suppose Matthews got his "dander" up because people are referring to the ten year study a scholar did of the republicans. He said they were psychotic. Meaning those type of people were drawn to the republican party because republicans have the same ideas as they do. And that they were not independent thinkers and would follow a leader off a cliff.

[The Backlash Cometh]

13. But Pelosi is proving him right.

The Democrats are so considerate of other's opinions, that they're easily stalled, when they have every reason to move forward.

The Democrats need to drive home the strength of Democracy. Which is, that only when you put those ideas OUT IN THE OPEN and hear all the opinions and facts, can you then reach an educated decision. But that's not how Congress works. Congress works behind closed doors, where the best ideas and the best facts get shoved in a corner in favor of negotiations. So, Matthews, using a strong word like "leader" to define what Republicans want, and Democrats following the less effective, Beltway committee style, is giving the Republicans, yet another freebie image of strength when what he should be pointing out is what happens when that leader is a fool.

Frankly, between our Beltway style committees and our foolish leaders, I'm surprised we're still considered a supernation.--

[KharmaTrain]

14. Yep...We Need A Good Dictatorship, Right Tweety?

The real translation of what Tweety said:

Repugnicans like authoritarian despots while Democrats like being diverse. Yep, that sure doesn't jive with Tweety's provincial worldview of black and white, us vs. them and either hot or cold.

IRC, wasn't this uttered while he was all but kissing Joe DiGenova's ass and treating Melanie Sloane like some nightcrawler.

[Perry Logan]

15. This is embarrassing, but...who's "Tweety"?

[jazzjunkysue]

17. Chris Mathews: Hardball. Political show on MSNBC, Cable.

If you go to the msnbc site, look for hardball and you'll see why.

[Kip Humphrey]

16. Hunters vs. Gatherers, Herders vs. Planters, Conservatives vs. Liberals... Been going on a very long

time... Hunter/Herder/Conservatives are increasingly obsolete in the modern world and cooperative Gatherer/Planter/Liberals are ascendant.

Which are you? HINT: What do you eat? When you go out to eat Italian, do you order the veal chop or pasta?

[jazzjunkysue]

18. There's often a grain of truth in what Tweety says, but I've seen him live on TV.

And I can tell you that his loyalties lie with one thing: The camera. That's his real crush. His own image on the monitor.

I was in Herald Square for the 2004 RNC in NYC, watching him call the convention outside in the square. I was there for hours with my Kerry sign for 2 nights. I'll tell you what he did:

1. He never said a word to a living soul in between takes. Not one. As animated as he is when the camera's rolling, he shuts down completely during commercials or pre-recorded spots. He sat right there and totally ignored Andrea Mitchell at the same table with him. He just looked at his papers and monitor. It was so creepy. Like he's not the most important person in the world, he's the only person in the world. Even when the crowd was chanting all around him, drowning him out, literally, he only smiled at the other people on set once, like, "Well, we know we can hear them, but we also know they don't matter." Interestingly, his staff was the total opposite. They loved us, gave us bottles of water and show T shirts and buttons. They told us when to raise the signs and scream and smiled at us and applauded and thanked us. They talked to us. His staff was great.

2. He's more class bully than anything else. He'll say anything that might get him quoted by the networks. I think ultimately he wants to break out of cable and nab a network chair. He's looking for attention and he'll run over his own pundits and refuse to listen. He's a pig. But he'll kiss whatever butt is in power.

[KharmaTrain]

19. A Definite Media Creature

I think Tweety's complex/ego goes further...he's in love with the "power" of his image...using his TV treehouse to "reward" his friends and pummel his critics in hopes of being the "toast of the beltway". He's shown regularly how he defers to "conventional wisdom" that are the memes that get him invites to the drinkie-drinkie parties and gets him "the big get".

Regarding the Hearld Square stuff...please keep in mind what goes on during those breaks. It's tough doing a live broadcast...especially one outside the studio. Those breaks are sacred ground as he's probably getting his ear bombarded with all sorts of technical stuff and lots of other things that he normally can see in the studio, but can't on location.

Tweety doesn't need to be quoted by the networks, he IS the networks. He gets a paycheck from General Electric and his boss is Timmeh Russert. He regularly appears on NBC shows and his Sunday show is syndicated to NBC stations across the country. He's got his bully pulpit and he feels because he has it, it gives him some special "knowledge" or insight...it's not the ego as much as it is the position.

Cheers...

[jazzjunkysue]

22. Agreed. But Keith does it all without the ego, and he's so much fun.

He knows he's powerful, but that his power comes from truth and rationality, and the realities of the needs of americans. He knows that when he speaks for us, he gets his power from us, not from his own notoriety or connections.

[jazzjunkysue]

20. Joe (morning) keeps interrupting Mika Brzezinski. What a rude pig!

She's the news anchor, and he interrupts every sentence as she tries to read the prompter. Then, he says, "sorry, go ahead." She takes a breath to start talking and he jumps in and she just sits there, wondering when he's gonna shut up and let her say it.

Then, without warning, he finally does shut up and she just looks at him , like, "is it my turn?" So they have a bunch of dead air time.

lousey TV.

[baldguy]

21. Right...

Conservatives want leaders




Liberals want committees