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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:04 PM
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Obama says Bush not solely to blame
Not all the nation's ills can be blamed on President Bush, Democratic candidate Barack Obama said Wednesday as he called on Americans to change the nature of politics and institute more openness in government.

"Part of the problem here is not just George Bush and the White House," Obama told a crowd of hundreds gathered at a park in Cedar Falls. "We can't just change political parties and continue to do the same kind of things we've been doing. We can't just go about business as usual and think it's going to turn out differently."

Obama, a senator from Illinois, said average Americans must be brought back to the table when dealing with every issue, from health care to education to trade.

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To make the government more accountable, Obama said he would post all non-emergency bills online for five days before he signed them into law, allowing Americans a chance to weigh in on the legislation. In addition, he said he would post all meetings between lobbyists and government agencies online.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070815/ap_on_el_pr/obama_open_government
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:09 PM
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1. No, Bush and his minions are the problem
they are the ones that put torture in place, pre-emptive wars, politicization of the federal government, etc., etc.

I don't want spin, now, I know why I like Dennis so much.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:12 PM
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2. In one sense, he's right
Until he supports impeachment, Obama's part of the problem as well.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:13 PM
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3. He's right.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:18 PM
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4. I'm going to blame Shrub for everything anyway - he deserves it.
If it rains, it's Shrub's fault. Burnt rice - Shrub. If my cat drags a tick into the house, I'm naming it Shrub.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:24 PM
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5. Te hee! Me too! LOL!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:25 PM
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6. Congresses that pass laws giving him warrantless spying against Americans...
... is also part of the problem. Jackass.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:39 PM
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7. Good grief, Obie, you want to give * a pass! No way!
You're not my man. There are enough Repugs defending your boy, why are you?

Next!

:thumbsdown:

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:41 PM
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8. Well, the buck doesn't stop ... so it must be off the table.
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 05:43 PM by TahitiNut
There sure is a lot of stuff off the table these days. :eyes:

Why is it then that "average Americans must be brought back to the table"??
There's nothing on it for us.

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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:43 PM
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9. I guess there's no point in having a rational discussion on this thread,
based on the comments.

Good luck, folks.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:54 PM
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10. He is right about one thing bush is not ALL the problem
the republican congress at the time should bear half the blame. They could have stopped a lot of the bills that enabled bush to do what he did.
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loves_dulcinea Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:57 PM
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11. open govt, yeah!
as for posting bills for perusal, big deal, no one will look, no one will care. nice tone, need better ideas.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:01 PM
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12. I love the open government part of Obama's campaign. I think he should make it more a centerpiece
He's got a great record on this. He speaks very eloquently on why this is necessary for our government.

This is HIS issue.

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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 07:02 PM
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13. Oh Lordee - he isn't draggin' out that ole shibboleth that "we're ALL to blame"
is he? That would be too much - I cant' stand it!
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