Vatican 'edited Adams web page'(Wickapedia edits)

[lovuian]

A new internet tool shows how a Vatican computer was used to edit a web entry about Sinn Fein President Gerry Adams, American researchers have claimed.

Wikipedia Scanner developers said they can trace where changes to the popular online encyclopedia have been made.

They said news reports alleging Mr Adams's fingerprints and handprints were found on a car used during a double murder in 1971 were edited.

Sinn Fein said it was calling for more stringent regulation of the internet.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/6949153.stm
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Why in the hell would a Vatican Computer be used to edit info on Sinn Fein ...its not just CIA but why am I not surprised at the vatican being involved either... the Internet is really scaring them

[RB TexLa]

1. So someone in the Vatican removed a lie posted on Wiki?

what's the big deal?

[lovuian]

2. Why would the vatican care??? Does it correct all lies on

Wikipedia why that one???

A meddling vatican is quite interesting
I thought they were into people's souls

[RB TexLa]

6. I don't think every action and every word typed on a computer there is reviewed and stamped

with the Pope's approval.

You have something that says this is an official statement from the Holy See? It would hardly be the first time someone made edits on Wiki from a work computer.

[lovuian]

11. You don't think but you could be wrong the Inquisitor may have

You don't know...benedict may have given the CIA access to Vatican computers

do you think Bush said the CIA could change Wikipedia???
or did they do it on orders from the Director???
or do people do this for free???

[RB TexLa]

19. The simplest answer is just thrown out?

OK. Someone at the Vatican makes an edit on a Wiki page and it's the Pope, Bush and the CIA all involved in it?

[lovuian]

21. could be the fraudulent WMD papers came from Italy

The Pope and Bush are buddies

you know the whole anti abortion thing and all
though Bush never did get rid of abortion like he promised

[EFerrari]

4. They're desperate to manage the message.

These are the same people who didn't want the bible to be printed in English.

[RB TexLa]

7. Then why in 1609 did they print it in English?

:shrug:

[lovuian]

9. Why do they go back to Latin as language of their Mass

Its control of information

Yes they Printed it in English but interpreted in the way they wanted

thats why
St James is different than other Bibles

[RB TexLa]

15. The Mass was in Latin to have the same Mass everywhere it is said

good use for a dead language.

Are you calling King James a saint?

The 1611 King James version of the Bible is an excellent display of 1600's English, it however is a very poor translation of the text of the Bible.

[lovuian]

20. Oh know he wasn't a Saint beg pardon met King James

and yes a poor translation that was my point

[RB TexLa]

22. I was talking about the Douay-Rheims Bible printed in 1609

The King James or Authorized Version was the Protestant Bible printed in 1611.

[EFerrari]

There were horrible penalties imposed on people found in

possession of the Douay, up to and including burning.

[EFerrari]

23. I miss the Latin Mass. It was so beautiful. n/t

[lovuian]

24. I have to admit I attended everyday as a child

and took Latin
it has served me well
I understand HArry Potter's spells

[RB TexLa]

25. It's sad. Nothing in Vatican II prohibited it, the problem is finding a Priest who knows Latin.

[EFerrari]

26. I understand about making the celebration accessible to people

but one of the things about the Mass I fell in love with as a child was the beauty of the sound -- even before I knew what that sound meant.

[RB TexLa]

27. I was agreeing with you

:)

[EFerrari]

28. Hey!

:)

[lovuian]

29. Yes it Latin is just rich sounding

Kryie Eleison
said it many times but did you know this
Kyrie Eleison (Greek for "Lord have mercy"; the Latin transliteration supposes a pronunciation as in Modern Greek) is a very old, even pre-Christian, expression used constantly in all Christian liturgies. Arrian quotes it in the second century: "Invoking God we say Kyrie Eleison"

I always thought it was Latin and it was Greek

[RB TexLa]

30. Still used during Lent

[EFerrari]

31. The Romans were really good at stealing Greek culture.

lol

It is beautiful, though. Even though I've been lapsed forever, I still remember those masses, the music of the language.

[EFerrari]

10. Because by that time, the Protestants had captured the English throne.

The Vatican fought tooth and claw not to have the bible printed in English.

[lovuian]

13. Yes wouldn't want a poor English chap to read the Bible

and find no reference in there about Mary magdalene not being a prostitute

or that Jesus had brothers

thats for the elite not for the common people

its amazing how they controlled all knowledge and trying to do so now

[EFerrari]

17. Exactly. It's about power and control just as it was then.

No flies on the Vatican. :)

[lovuian]

8. The same people who ran BCCI and the same people

who can have no prosecution

[mike_c]

3. another perspective....

The vatican, the CIA, your weird uncle Paul-- they are all part of the ferment called humanity. Wikipedia, by definition, is open to their input and manipulation, as are lots of other open online communities. If Wikipedia is going to work then we must accept that human nature will always produce trolls and learn effective ways to deal with them within the context of our community structures, rather than by abandoning those communities, or by being outraged that the trolls are participants.

[lovuian]

5. But is this the vatican and CIA jobs to correct Wikipedia

isn't it for others to do that
Why such interest

because they are power brokers of information

and they want to keep that way

[canetoad]

12. And one person's troll is another's truthteller

Ain't it the best free entertainment watching that 'ferment called humanity'. I haven't had so much fun since Al Gore invented the internet.

[lovuian]

16. the Internet Rocks

and yes its fun
:rofl:

[EFerrari]

14. But it is sort of funny that CIA and the Vatican would bother.

I mean, don't they have grown up jobs to do? lol

[lovuian]

18. ROFL

:rofl:
Ya don't they have terrorist to catch
are they worried that years down the road a piece of truth will slide by them

makes ya wonder if they wrote the old encyclopedia's doesn't it

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33. I think I can figure out the connection.

At the end of the movie "In the Name of the Father", about the Guildford Four bombing trial, it states what happened to the defendants. I believe that it stated that Gerry Adams married someone in the Kennedy family. Allegedly the Catholic Irish-Americans are funneling money to the IRA.

[RB TexLa]

34. That's Gerry Conlon. Paul Hill was married to Courtney Kennedy.