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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 07:20 AM
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Americans may need passports to board domestic flights or to picnic in a national park next year
Federal ID plan raises privacy concernsStory Highlights
Secretary Michael Chertoff says 8,000 forms of ID are now accepted at border

By Eliott C. McLaughlin
CNN

(CNN) -- Americans may need passports to board domestic flights or to picnic in a national park next year if they live in one of the states defying the federal Real ID Act.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff says there are no plans for a federal database of drivers' information.

The act, signed in 2005 as part of an emergency military spending and tsunami relief bill, aims to weave driver's licenses and state ID cards into a sort of national identification system by May 2008. The law sets baseline criteria for how driver's licenses will be issued and what information they must contain.

The Department of Homeland Security insists Real ID is an essential weapon in the war on terror, but privacy and civil liberties watchdogs are calling the initiative an overly intrusive measure that smacks of Big Brother.

more at:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/16/real.id/
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 07:23 AM
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1. land of the free and all that...use your illusions people!
LMAO

Oh, that's a bitter laugh....

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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 07:26 AM
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2. "Papers, please."
mikey_the_rat
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:04 AM
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4. Ausweiss Bitte.
Good Americans have nothing to fear from the Reich.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 07:35 AM
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3. Alternatively,

You can allow Homeland Security to implant an RFID chip in your ass to save on the incovenience of having to always keep your papers with you ready for presentation to the Gesta... er, authorities. A quick poke up the ass with an RFID reader-probe will give them all the information needed to confirm your identity, and if you're lucky they'll even smear some lubricating Vaseline on the probe to minimize discomfort for cooperative citizens.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:07 AM
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5. ..
:spray:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:35 AM
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6. Somehow, this seems entirely possible. Maybe I should design
a new type of clothing equipped to manage those pesky probe chip readers and absorb the KY jelly. Underwear, boxers, briefs, blue jeans, suit trousers. Dresses and skirts are generally easy unless the skirt is too narrow and long.

Hey, I need to have fun thinking about the possibilities for making a buck off this shit.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:36 AM
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7. if they can get them--(or afford them)
let's see--car with family and 2 kids? That'll cost over 500 bucks!

and there's a vicious backlog
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:42 AM
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11. Disneyland raised their admission price to $71 per person
It's sad that young families cannot afford to go there ..

When our boys were young, all the places were still fairly reasonable,but if you have 3 kids and they are over the "child's rate" you are gonna end up spending $500 for a lousy DAY TRIP to an amusement part....and spend most of your time waiting in line..:grr:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:37 AM
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8. Don't turn around.......
Der Komissar's in town.

:scared:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:39 AM
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9. Big Brother keeps rolling on...... eom
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:40 AM
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10. I live in a national park. Does that mean they'll constantly ask for my "papers"?
Edited on Fri Aug-17-07 08:52 AM by gatorboy
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:43 AM
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12. Probably not.. They may just not "allow" you to ever leave
:evilgrin:
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:53 AM
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14. SNORT!
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:45 AM
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13. Perhaps mine will arrivre by then. I applied on April 10!!1 n/t
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:00 AM
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15. What's next? Supermarkets?
Their not even trying to hide what they're doing.

"Giff us yo paypas pleeese!"
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 04:22 PM
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16. Here's New Mexico's response to Real ID in 2007
http://legis.state.nm.us/Sessions/07%20Regular/memorials/senate/SJM011.pdf

This would be good for people in other states to send to their reps.

Real ID would be a bureaucratic nightmare that could simply destroy lives.





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