It's official. We now live in 1984

[Connonym]

“Specially trained security personnel” will be watching passengers for “micro-expressions” that will reveal treacherous agendas and insidious intentions at airports around the country. These agents, who may literally hold your fate in their hands have been given a lofty, Orwellian name: "Behavior Detection Officers."

In the study of “micro-expressions”—yes, it is actually a field of study and there are some who are arrogant enough to call it a science—it has been decided that when people wish to conceal emotions, the truth of their feelings is revealed in facial flashes. These experts have determined that fear and disgust are the key things to look for because they can hint of deception.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20298840/site/newsweek/?gt1=10252

[Tommy_Carcetti]

1. Are you serious?

That's just plain crazy if this is true.

[Deep13]

2. Does that mean I need to get my hair feathered...

...and listen to Cindy Lauper?

Sorry, I know this is serious. I read a few days ago that the Feds will now be using defense dept. satellites to spy on us. The citizens are now the enemy.

[benEzra]

29. Use of spysats in domestic surveillance, in the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/17/us/17spy.html?th&emc=th

It won't be long before they're using those multispectral imagers to look for the spectral signature of pot patches and the heat signature of household grow lamps, in addition to looking for "terrorists."

I wonder if that proposal included the SIGINT birds, or just the imaging sats?

[gulfcoastliberal]

46. They've already been warrantlessly IR scanning houses for years

Thank the "war on drugs" for its filthy roots of destroying the purpose of the 4th amendment. That was the beginning of the end of our so called "freedom". We truly deserve what's coming.

[dipsydoodle]

3. Wear a black balaclava

that'll fox them. :rofl:

[sutz12]

4. "Yes, my dear.....there really is a boogeyman."

:evilfrown:

[thunder rising]

5. Go to the mirror and practice smiling...I mean a GOOD SMILE.

Like your life, health and pursuit of happiness depended on it. And just in case these sooth sayers detect bad thoughts about the governments of Lebanon or Iraq your family can be held accountable for not watching you starve to death.

[The Wielding Truth]

15. I hope they can distinguish between bathroom needs and

terroristic expressions. I think they would look an awful lot alike. eewww

[jgraz]

27. Mistakes in this area would make for some fairly hazardous cavity searches

Montezuma's revenge indeed. :rofl:

[DeposeTheBoyKing]

59. How would they interpret Cheney's ugly sneer? Or the BoyKing's perpetual smirk?

I suppose THOSE annoying expressions would pass muster because they're attached to fascist faces.

I wonder how my bawling episode at the Phoenix airport in June would have been interpreted? I was upset because I was trying to get home to see my dying cat and the plane kept getting delayed again and again, and I just lost it. Were these the tears of a terrorist? No - the tears of a loving cat mom who wanted to see her kitty before he died.

[The Wielding Truth]

60. So sorry about kitty. You have extra love now for another little

furry friend. That's how I feel after I get over the saddest moments. Hug.

[fed-up]

6. the thoought police are here-and they ain't cheap......nt

[marmar]

7. Lifestyles of the Rich and Fascist.....

Champagne wishes and totalitarian dreams! :toast:

[The Stranger]

8. Remember, remember the fifth of November.

[minnesota_liberal]

13. One of my favorite movies. I wonder why...

[WinkyDink]

35. Can't forget; it's my birthday! :)

[liberal N proud]

9. Don't even twitch while standing in line for 2 hours checking in

If you twitch the wrong way, they will haul you off without any questions.

These people are just seen how absurd they can make living in the US. How much will the public take?

[slackmaster]

10. Orwell's point was that it was already 1984 in 1948 when the book was published

:argh:

[Hydra]

25. You know

had I not found out about all the crap we've been doing during and since WWII, I would have dismissed that out of hand.

Now I know better- they were just a tad more quiet about what they were doing before. "Isolated cases", usually of people who had no one to speak for them or no family to wonder what happened to them...

[minnesota_liberal]

11. Great! I finally have the TSA Nazis trained to ignore my Arabic/English ...

... "We Will Not Be Silent!" t-shirt and now they're going to be looking for suspicious facial expressions?

My normal *look* in airports is one of pained bemusement but I may have to work on a few other looks. Except for the potential interrogations and strip searches, this could be fun.

[Mythsaje]

12. Beware the nearly unavoidable

"Here there be assholes" look.

[davekriss]

56. LOL Thanks for that (n/t)

[I_Will]

14. Yet another case where it's - very unfortunately - *not* The Onion n/t

[tom_paine]

16. Phrenology for the New Dark Ages (and the New Totalitarianism)

The new Fingermen. The new Blackshirts. The New KGB.

Oh no, no such thing, especially in these stressful days, of people carrying around a burden of pain or loss in their hearts from the death of a loved one or a catastrophe causing "micro-expressions" of fear and disgust.

:sarcasm:

Yes it is madness. Yes we are very very close to 1984.

Yes, the Middle Phase of Tranistion to the New Bushputinist Totalitarianism is upon us.

Creepy and getting creepier.

Hey, if history is any judge, creepy Male Behavior Detection Officers (and given the new semi-equality, probably some creepy Female Behavior Detection Officers) will probably be able to extrort some very good sex from some very attractive people. Probbaly not 50 years away.

All the old poisons and venalities of the human race will eventually out as Amerika falls, I think (though I pray daily that I am wrong).

[Hydra]

26. Sex for not getting thrown in jail?

I'd be surprised if that isn't official policy in 2 years.

I was just discussing with a friend of mine who has kids in school. You hear every so often about strip searches being conducted on girls in school for suspicion of wrongdoing. If martial law comes, schools will have police in house all the time, and I'd lay money on random strip searches of girls becoming a regular thing, if not more :puke:

I'm SO glad we live in the "Greatest nation on Earth!" It's such a privilege! :sarcasm:

[Javaman]

17. This micro expression free zone!!! nt

[LuckyLib]

18. Then there are the folks with the physiologically permanent "pissed off" look on their faces. They

can't help it. It's the nature of their faces. And they'll be hauled off on a regular basis for a pat-down and a debriefing!

[rucky]

19. I got a micro expression for 'em.

Detect this, big brother!

[DaveJ]

20. Just went we get an army of these people trained

They'll be replaced and put out of work by computer cameras that do the same thing. Who cares? Certainly not the people controlling all this.

[Common Sense Party]

21. Disgust? DISGUST??? I'd better watch out, then.

I just about ALWAYS look disgusted when I'm being ignored, delayed, and treated like cattle by the airlines.

[Dr. Death]

22. They're certainly going to be seeing plenty of disgust on my face

Along with contempt and snarkiness.....

[youthere]

23. I hope they know the difference between "insidious intentions"....

and constipation. Airline food you know. :hurts:

[closeupready]

24. Seriously, this silliness is one reason I've stopped traveling. Or at least, flying.

Waste of my time.

[davekriss]

57. I don't have a choice

My job takes me all over the world (just got back from Hong Kong two weeks ago -- off to Belgium and Germany next).

[Usrename]

28. Hitleresque enough already?

Impeach these monsters.

[mogster]

30. Poker face doesn't do it anymore?

Hell, they should try their luck in Vegas :think:

[krispos42]

31. Time for a FULL FACIAL BOTOX!!!!

I'll set up a mobile clinic just outside the airport. Stop in, a few shots, your entire face goes numb, and PRESTO! No more irratating body cavity searches for you!

[DarkTirade]

32. My only question is...

will this 'skill' help me in poker, and if so, where can I learn it?

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[Swamp Rat]

34. 'I see you'

[HCE SuiGeneris]

47. My perceptionn of the deciderer and conjecteurer is he is unbalanced....

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

36. "Fear and disgust" eh? How does this narrow down anyone commuting on the NYC subway system?

[lonestarnot]

37. Too fucking nuts. I'll just drive unless it is a necessity to fly. Fuck 'em.

[Megahurtz]

38. It Gets More and More Insane

in this Country by the day! :wow:

This one is so surreal there are barely any words for it.

Un-fucking-believable!:wow:

[kath]

39. Well, I certainly feel plenty of disgust every time I go through airport security.

It's such a fokkin' joke. Window dressing, in terms of security purposes - just a way to get us accustomed to being searched and put through other indignities...

[undergroundpanther]

40. Only a matter of time

Before we get behavior modification technicians to reprogram the people caught making micro expressions by the behavioral control technicians...

Hmm Would my middle finger crammed really close in a behavioral control technicians face,..count as a "micro expression"?

BF Skinner..had no concept of dignity or freedom he was an ASSHOLE!

[Obamarama]

41. So in other words, you don't want the Ex-Lax to kick in while waiting in the security line....

That strained look on your face trying to hold it in till you can get through line and get the heck to the bathroom could get you tagged as a potential evil-doer?

Oh well, I guess we've always been at war with Eurasia, haven't we?

[porphyrian]

42. I knew time travel was possible! - n/t

[Poll_Blind]

43. I actually found a "cool" little article on Wiki about it, plus the TEST!

Microexpression Wiki

Facial Expressions Test

  I'm not 100% sure if these methods are applicable- there seems to be a heck of a lot of "interpretation". I'm not sure if the training provided would be adequate. After all, most of these people who are going to be performing the examinations are probably going to be paid minimum wage.

  Scarier thought, eh?

PB

[kickysnana]

44. As a person with three different neurological conditions..

I recently participated in a U of Ore study about traveling while disabled. Basically I haven't used interstate transportation since 911. Anyway they had a comments section and I told them "I would be really stupid to attempt to use interstate transportation since the policies put in place by 911. I feel I am at risk physically, emotionally and medically by those policies." The story about the Minister in Florida left at the curb for three days by airline personnel was the exact thing I expected to happen.

It wasn't that great before 911. I watched a PCA wrench his back getting a quadriplegic into a coach airline seat. They had booked bulkhead seats and were refused at boarding. The flight attendant was very impatient with the slowness of the process and went and got the Captain who (after they were seated) offered to let them move to the bulkhead seats (protecting his ass I assume). Turned my stomach. A former ball player got thrown thrown off a plane for attempting to intervene when a flight attendant was doing the same thing to another passenger so I assume it was SOP. Harass us so that we don't fly and get in their way.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

45. I'm playing my vinyl. "Physical Graffitti... In The Light"

War is peace and disco is cool.

Fuck 'em. I despise the whole crooked cabal. They can go get stuffed.

Edit: This message took an extra 10 seconds to post as it was routed thru agent Mike. Fuck you too, Mike.

[Liberal_in_LA]

48. For gawds sakes. Makes me want to get a greyhound bus pass

[leftofthedial]

49. terror is a problem at airports

Stalin would be jealous of repukes and their "democratic" stooges who foisted the "war" on "terror" and the PATRIOT Act on the US.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

50. Aren't you willing to give up your liberties to protect your

freedoms, or, errr... shit. How does this work again?

:shrug:

Oh wait. I got it! We give up our freedoms to protect them taking liberties.

Yep. Go Amurika!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1606356&mesg_id=1611717

[Norrin Radd]

51. I suspect that "micro-expressions" and "Behavior Detection Officers"

are just disinfo, to frighten us. Stay strong, keep cool, and pay it no mind.

[leftofthedial]

53. besides, if you are a good, compliant citizen

you have nothing to worry about

[Norrin Radd]

64. "Fear is the mind killer..."

[DemBones DemBones]

52. That is too creepy and unscientific. Why not phrenology?

Fear? Most people feel a little fear when about to climb into a giant metal tube to fly through the sky, since those things crash and burn rather spectacularly from time to time.

Then there's fear of being on the no fly list, fear of inappropriate searches, and now, fear of being accused of looking suspicious.

Disgust? Maybe people are a little disgusted when they are paying to be jammed into tiny seats with no legroom, knowing how unpleasant the bathrooms are, how bad the food usually is, if you get food at all.

But people may also look disgusted because their feet hurt or they had a fight with their spouse or a zillion other reasons.

We haven't flown since 9/11 and don't intend to fly again as long as this country is so paranoid. Europe and the UK have had good security for many years, without all this inconvenience to people. The US has gone bonkers.

[slackmaster]

54. I'm a licensed practitioner of Corrective Phrenology

:spank:

[davekriss]

55. O no, I better avoid airline termininals when....

...Bush or any of his minions are on those TV monitors. I'd microflash disgust, anger, disappointment, amazement (that the monkey is still in office), pensive concern (for the future of every American), boiling desire for revolution... I'd be detained and never leave the terminal again (unless rendered to Guantanmo or Abu Ghraib).

[Kansas Wyatt]

58. They'll be hauling my ass away.

I do not smile and maintain a poker face, without expression, all while keeping to myself and being quiet. When looked in the eyes, I will not break contact until the other breaks. Often been called intimidating.

Just want to be left alone and that is all it is.

[eugeneliberal]

61. Double plus good

:sarcasm:

[walldude]

62. Where is Cleric Preston when you need him... n/t

[madmom]

63. so..what if my fear and/or disgust is because of something totally irrelevant