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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 01:41 PM
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Hurricane Dean could potentially affect New Orleans


One of the computer models has Dean coming dangerously close to New Orleans. It's still quite a ways out, and plenty of things could happen to affect Dean's course. If a pressure system comes in from the west, it could nudge Dean more towards the central Gulf Coast.

I guess the big question is, has Bush done a damned thing since Katrina to ensure that we're ready to respond to another devastating hurricane?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 01:46 PM
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1. Hell.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 01:51 PM
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2. The purple model has it headed right for Houston
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:00 PM
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4. Bite,. Your. Tongue. Please.
:hi:
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:35 PM
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15. Erin was predicted to pretty much follow the Rio Grande River
but ended up hitting the coast further north and going right over San Antonio, though being on the north side, we got (and are still getting) plenty of rain in the Austin area. Frankly, none of the Texas or Louisiana coasts needs that much rain right now, except maybe South Texas. :shrug:
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 01:56 PM
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3. Like an obsession...
I tend to be drawn to watch the NHC satellite loops. It looks to be following the GFDL line. In fact it looks north of that line. It's headed for a brush with Haiti. Just take the first and last images and click between them.

Run the loop backward to get an idea of how this storm has exploded in size.
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:01 PM
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5. Not really.
The track the furthest to the East is still SSE of Baton Rouge. If Katrina had gone 20 miles further to the West, the city wouldn't have flooded. The furthest track to the east shown above is about 75 miles from New Orleans.

This thing isn't coming near us, if the input suppositions stand firm. A ridge of Atlantic pressure is gonna keep her southwest in the gulf.

Anyone wanna bet $1 that it lands between Corpus Christi and Houston? That's my bet.

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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:03 PM
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6. You are right, but do keep your eye on it.
Crazier stuff has happened.


Also to the OP, you have to look at the group, not the single model.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:13 PM
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9. while i don't bet on storms this would be my guess at this point also
anything can happen this far out of course
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:08 PM
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7. as far as i know nothing new has been done nor can be done at this point
to get the levees where they need to be in the current storm environment is a 15 yr project -- which is being overseen by the same clowns (army corps of engineers) who fucked it up last time

we don't even have enough national guard/police down here to keep the streets safe or public gathering places either now, much less during a disaster


not enough doctors, not enough hospitals

the best thing anyone can do is to discourage anyone from coming here who isn't young and able-bodied enough to drive out their own car, and of course you need the financial ability to maintain a reliable car

everyone on the right and the left has conspired to deny the reality that these storms can continue to happen and thus the emphasis on drawing people back who have no business living in an area this dangerous -- the old, the disabled, the severely financially unstable

if this thing hits in nola, more people will die who didn't need to die, no one for instance should be encouraged to resettle a swamp like new orleans east, i don't even understand this...NOT a historical area but an area developed by irresponsible developers in the 70s -- it should have been left as a wild buffer zone to protect the city -- not developed to enrich the few at the expense of the money
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:09 PM
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8. The levees in NOLA are still rated at only withstanding Category 3 storms, Dean is a 3 already.
It will be a 5 by the time it hits the warm waters of the Gulf.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:18 PM
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10. And even a heavy rain could be disastrous, with their defective B*shBuddy™ Brand pumps.
Edited on Fri Aug-17-07 02:28 PM by dicksteele
How many of those have been replaced? How much water capacity
can they handle right now?


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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:19 PM
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11. Anyone on the Gulf Coast could potentially be affected...
These models will change several times over the course of a day. All we can do is finalize our preparations and pray it doesn't hit us (although I don't wish this on anyone).

And hurricanes don't move in a linear fashion; they wobble. The track is just a general course of movement. Not directed at anyone here, but wobble watchers are the worst. Once this thing gets closer to a U.S. landfall, they'll be out in full force.

As for the big question, I sure hope we are ready to respond to another hurricane. I don't know if we are or not. I wouldn't bet on it. At my house plans for Operation YOYO (You're On You're Own) will be finalized this weekend.

A bigger question is: with the toxic FEMA trailers out there, where are these people going to live?
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:41 PM
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16. "wobble watchers"! I shouldn't have but couldn't help a giggle over that.
Of course you're exactly right. Oh, about the FEMA trailers...what should have been (and still could if they weren't so damn stupid) is just AIR them OUT for a couple of weeks. Open all the windows and the formaldehyde will dissipate.
:eyes:
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Colorado Progressive Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:21 PM
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12. Maybe this was a bad year for that Cancun 2nd (first really) honeymoon
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:26 PM
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13. The rain and storm surge will affect the entire Gulf coast to some extent.
And, no, bush hasn't done shit since Katrina except to try to relocate the poor and the Black so his cronies can buy it all up.
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:30 PM
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14. A little lesson.
The spinning area near Florida will decide if it will hit Mexico, South Texas or Central Texas.

It takes a second to load so be patient.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-wv.html
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:49 PM
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17. Is it progressing to the west as previously forecast?
If so all should be well, but if not I heard it could effect Dean and draw the storm track more north.


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