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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:49 PM
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Cheney Tries Unsuccessfully To Shrug Off 1994 Remarks About Iraq
Remember that 1994 video of Darth saying what a disaster Iraq would be if we invaded Baghdad ("How many additional dead Americans is Saddam worth?"):

A CBS affiliate called the Dark Lord's office about the matter, and this was the response:

"He was not Vice President at the time, it was after he was Secretary of Defense," a spokesperson told CBS 5 San Francisco. "I don't have any comment."
But then there's this bit of business unearthed by Think Progress that makes it even more difficult for the VP to blow off those remarks - Cheney reiterated his position again in August of 2000 on Meet the Press as Bush's VP nominee:
CHENEY: I don't, Tim. It was–and it's been talked about since then. But the fact of the matter is, the only way you could have done that would be to go to Baghdad and occupy Iraq. If we'd done that, the U.S. would have been all alone. We would not have had the support of the coalition, especially of the Arab nations that fought alongside us in Kuwait. None of them ever set foot inside Iraq. Conversations I had with leaders in the region afterwards -- they all supported the decision that was made not to go to Baghdad.

They were concerned that we not get into a position where we shifted instead of being the leader of an international coalition to roll back Iraqi aggression to one in which we were an imperialist power, willy-nilly moving into capitals in that part of the world taking down governments. So I think we got it right, so suppose it's one of those things that'll be debated for some time. But I thought the decision was sound at the time, and I do today.
The lying out of this White House is non-stop and shameless. But hey -- who's holding them accountable?

http://www.americablog.com/2007/08/cheney-tries-unsuccessfully-to-shrug.html
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:55 PM
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1. Will any of the press challenge him directly?
And if they do will he answer or even acknowledge the question. Maybe give a '9/11 chenged everything' and that's that.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:04 PM
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4. No, they won't.
They won't get the chance, and they fear that Rush Limbaugh or any of Rupert Murdoch's outlets will speak unkindly of them, which would be horrible beyond belief, so of course they won't challenge him. Maybe they might mention it - but they would then accept his answer uncritically and move on.

Give up on the mainstream press. Except for a few stray voices, like Frank Rich, they are hopeless.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:10 PM
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5. Keith said in not quite so many words that Cheeny (sic) has gone batshit nuts.
And of course he's right.
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:57 PM
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2. This isn't one of those flip flops I've heard about, is it?
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:04 PM
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3. Flip Flopper
where are those Flip Flops from the 2004 RNC convention?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:24 PM
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7. note the hugh response:
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:31 PM
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9. well, I think it is BIG NEWS
and the conservatives are not amused, they are paying attention to this.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:34 PM
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10. same here. that's why I mentioned Kerry and the M$M.
Edited on Fri Aug-17-07 09:35 PM by Gabi Hayes
my guess is Kerry didn't even know about it, which means the dem's oppo research is very weak, especially compared to that of Barbara Comstock, etal, on the fascist's side

not to mention the corporate media, obviously. they sure do a good job of digging up the most OBSCURE little tidbits on dems, don't they? just ask fatboy why he never got around to playing said clip when Cheney was on his show:

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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:47 PM
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11. Yes, but there was that whole eavesdropping thing
Like all the journalists thought they were being spied on all the time, I think Dan Rather said it. See the following incident
below, I had never heard of this before. I am sure this was widely known by the media but they buried it, they had to
be intimidated into keeping silent. They were certainly not silent during Clinton.

In the book Fraud it says the following: "the most revealing moment came when he thought the cameras were off: before he gave his national address announcing that the war had begun, a camera caught Bush pumping his fist as though instead of initiating a war
he had kicked a winning field goal or hit a home run. Feels good," he said.

Fraud- Paul Waldman, page 8, Sourcebooks, Inc. Naperville, IL 2004
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:49 PM
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12. thanks. never heard of that book. very sad, scary about the cowardly
'journalists,' but it explains a lot

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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 06:14 AM
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17. I heard Dan Rathers comment on Bill Moyers
Edited on Sat Aug-18-07 06:14 AM by MissWaverly
I think it was his show on "Selling the War", which talked about the Media role in the run up to the Iraq War. Dan Rather said that every time that he talked on the phone that he could hear clicking on the line so he knew someone was listening. Remember all the stories that the major newspapers knew about but they held for a year.
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:13 PM
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6. Let Me Get the Timeline Straight
This was before it was politically expedient or personally lucrative to advance this particular bad idea?
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 11:43 PM
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16. Bingo!
You win the free pizza tonight.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:28 PM
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8. MIke Malloy played the audio of the 1994 interview tonite.
Edited on Fri Aug-17-07 09:30 PM by roamer65
Only thing I can think is that Cheney is not human anymore...cyborg, maybe?:shrug:

Seriously, he's the poster child for evil, cynical war profiteers.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 10:50 PM
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15. Maybe that pacemaker isn't all they installed
What I want to know is, who's at the controls?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 10:46 PM
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13. So, let me get this straight...
Edited on Fri Aug-17-07 10:47 PM by Canuckistanian
The wisdom of invading Iraq depends solely on Dick Cheney's employment status in the government?

But even that doesn't make sense, because Cheney never raised any concerns about the decision to leave Baghdad alone. While he was Secretary of Defense.

He's painted himself into a logical corner here. Either he was lying his ass off then or he's doing it now.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 10:47 PM
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14. So who's Dick's Daddy?
Which neo-con turned him around on that?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 06:30 AM
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18. That spokeperson's response was pathetic
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