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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 05:35 AM
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Just found graphic of Giuliani's time at Ground Zero after 1st week
Source New York Times via Digg
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 05:52 AM
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1. Rudy meant "in spirit." He was at Ground Zero constantly...in spirit.
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 06:26 AM
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2. he made all the photo opps.

you must admit he made all the photo ops. especially the one with "dubya" who came out of his cocoon in a few days to make that bravado stance!
I despise phonies!
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 06:34 AM
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3. This is a foolish argument
29 hours in three months is a huge chunk of time for the mayor of the world's greatest city to be spending at that sort of site, which, after the first few days, quickly became a massive construction site. As someone who works in NYC, I have no problem with G. saying that he was "always" down at ground zero.

I'll tell you for what as well... there is no way that I could find 29 hours between now and December to do some new task. As of next week, my time is fully booked hour by hour until the New Year.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 06:47 AM
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4. There's a difference between saying you were "always" there...
...which is commonly understood to mean "frequently," and saying that you spent as much or more time there than the rescue workers, which is a slap in the face to those rescue workers.
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 07:56 AM
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8. Agreed
I still think that the debacle is a foolish one. I doubt, for example, that Bloomberg could come up with 29 free hours between now and Christmas. These sorts of jobs are too complex (I was once a speech writer in Canada for some provincial ministers, and even their time was staggeringly precious). You ever seen the last Pope's schedule? Some of it was blocked out in 15 second increments--his staff knew how long it took him to walk down a corridor and planned accordingly.

Guiliani used a poor choice of words and accidentally slapped rescue workers in the face. The general public will not care. Of course, it would be nice if they would care, as we are going to face either him or Thompson and it would be nice to face someone we could beat more easily. I don't think it's going to happen unless the Repuke right wing are more successful, but as they've been so comprehensively discredited, I don't think that's going to happen, freep notwithstanding.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 06:57 AM
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5. I'm astounded you would equate 'some new task' with what was going
on in New York City after September 11. You can't even compare your hourly schedule in the next few months to the Mayor of NYC after such a disaster that impacted so many lives.
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 07:52 AM
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7. Running a city would be a complex thing in stable times
I can't compare my absolutely full schedule to the schedule of an NYC mayor prior to 9/11, let alone immediately post 9/11. I doubt he had any time at all to spend at ground zero beyond those 29 hours. Those 29 hours probably represented other tasks not getting done.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 07:15 AM
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6. Being an onlooker
is not exactly the same as working on the pile with the filth, the sweat, the increased breathing, eyes burning, ...
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 08:05 AM
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9. The man is a fraud.....always has been.
Even a casual observation of his record shows what a lying, meglamaniacal uber-asshole he is. Why he gets more than 1 percent in any poll baffles me.
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