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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:44 AM
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Suppose another country invaded and occupied the USA
Edited on Sat Aug-18-07 11:47 AM by NNN0LHI
Then the first thing the occupation force did was disband all our military and police forces.

After that the occupation force hired a bunch of Republican fundy nut jobs from red states to go and police the sensible minded people living in blue states.

Then the occupation forces hired the most hateful Democratic fundy hating nuts they could find and gave them guns and badges and sent them to predominantly red states to police them.

How do you think that would work out here in the US because that is pretty much what we have done to Iraq.

Another question. When Americans began killing one another by the hundreds of thousands who's fault would that be? Would it be our fault? Or the occupation forces fault?

Don
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:47 AM
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1. And how long before the potshots at the occupiers?
I'd give maybe 5 minutes.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:48 AM
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2. worst mistakes
besides actually going to war
were disbanding the military and de-bathification

nobody was to big of a fan of saddam and they were all willing to co-operate.


perhaps we are going for the ole divide and conquer plan.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:51 AM
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7. Was it a mistake really? We are in the process of depopulating Iraq
We have already killed or driven off an awful lot of them. Millions actually. And we ain't done yet.

Don
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HuskiesHowls Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:49 AM
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3. I'd be living in the woods,
coming out every so often (probably every day), taking pot shots at the Republican Guards (oops, Republican fundy nut jobs) doing the police work. I'd be fomenting and creating utter havoc among them, finding any and all methods to destroy their work and make them want to go home!!!

Hmmmm...sounds like what's happening in Iraq right now.......
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:50 AM
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4. I've imagined it over and over.
I suppose you also implied that this same force bombed everything into oblivion. They went to the Smithsonian and leveled it. They turned DC into dust. But, they guarded all of our oil fields.

Yeah, this is the problem with "the other half" of Americans. They can't use their imagination. Because if one does that, they also can imagine the incredible suffering and pain that is inflicted by this.

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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 09:35 PM
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14. Oh, they can imagine it fine. They just don't care. NT
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:51 AM
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5. The USA has been invaded and occupied
by the Republicans and BushCo
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:51 AM
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6. I'd be an IED master
I just watched "300" so forgive me for my militaristic attitude.

But freedom's worth fighting and dying for.

Ho-ah!

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Babsbrain Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:54 AM
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8. They would have every right...
This country has become what bush said Iraq was...and more.

The U.S. is under an oppressive leader who has eliminated our basic rights, and makes the rich richer and makes the poor, poorer.

The people of the U.S. are controlled through fear.


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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 12:15 PM
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9. Au contraire
my opinion of americans and their resolve is in the toilet. We would accomodate the occupiers as long as they kept the widescreen tv infotainment cheap, and our big regrigerators well stocked with beer and coldcuts. We would all be watching the handful of insurgents die in firefights on weekly reality tv shows, an updated version of Cops.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 12:22 PM
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10. But when we insurgent begin blowing up TV stations?
Then the shit would fly.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 05:17 PM
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13. Yep. I am afraid I share your sentiments, Warren
Never forget, in the area of "bravery", what we WILL make are terrific Neighborhood Spies and Concentration Camp Guards.

The New Amerikan Subject, especially 20 or 50 years in the furture, will be very psychologically primed and propagandistically trained to loathe the inhumanity of the intellectuals, of the poor and weak, as BushChristianity, which most of us recognize as Anti-Christianity, overspreads itself.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 12:36 PM
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11. What makes you think they haven't already done so? Kinda seems like it!
The best way to take over a country is covertly. If the People do not realize it is a takeover, they will not shoot you.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 12:56 PM
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12. That is pretty much what has happened here too - except for the military part.
Edited on Sat Aug-18-07 12:58 PM by bluerum
The hateful fundy religiosity spewing nuts have infiltrated very part of government and political system. The only thing left for them to do is to start imprisoning and killing the opposition. They are working on making this legal however.

As a practical matter, there is no way to invade the US unless you go through Mexico or Canada. Hopefully we have not pissed off our neighbors to the point where they would allow another country to mass troops on our border. Not like we would miss it anyway but still - under diplomatic cover another country could position troops for an invasion. Unlikely.

Instead, they would have to disable a lot of our infrastructure with air strikes, ICBM.s etc.

A land invasion would be very very difficult. Imagine the sheer number of troops needed to secure a country this big.

No.

First they would let us weaken ourselves economically. Allow our hubris to lead us into becoming a debtor country owing our daily bread to many first world economic powers.

They would then let us weaken our educational systems by reducing funds and promoting religious study over hard and life sciences.

The core strategy however, is to allow us to pour much blood and treasure into wasteful wars whose primary purpose is to consume resources and provide cover for the transfer of personal wealth to corporate death merchants. Once we are on our economic knees, other countries can begin turning the political screws. Our military will have been weakened, our citizenry will be a bunch of mindless bible quoting automatons, and our leaders will be corrupt perverts hanging out in highway rest stops looking for sex and investment guidance from the minions of the death merchants.

Ahh,, brave new world.





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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 09:40 PM
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15. That's the argument I used with one of my brothers, who said a couple
of years ago that we should bomb Iraq off the face of the earth, because they were killing our soldiers.

First, I reminded him that WE invaded THEIR country. Then I posed what the OP posted.

He listened to me, and then said, I never thought of it that way.

He's never said such a thing again.

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 10:23 PM
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16. From your post, I believe we wouldn't be much brighter than the people in Iraq.
While their fault lines run along the Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish lines. An invader of us would easily know how to take advantage of our fault lines, you know, such as labeling entire states or regions as the homes of the Democratic hating fundy nut jobs and only sensible minded people living in blue states.

As to whose fault it would be? Most of it would go to the invaders, however, our own stupid simple minded divisiveness would share in much of the blame as well.

I believe as the United States, we'll never face this dilemma, however as the red states versus the blue states, or blue states versus red states if you prefer, we're begging for it. It will become a national Sophie's Choice of sorts.
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