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Sat Aug-18-07 12:37 PM
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please check out this website Made in USA |
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after the last few weeks of China's repulsive practices come to light, and after watching so many American jobs get "off-shored" I think I will stick to this for a while...forever maybe
www.madeinusa.org/
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Sat Aug-18-07 12:41 PM
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1. I don't mind buying foreign goods as long as its at Fair market trade. |
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I may want some exotic fruits or lotions or silk or herbs... but I want to know that the people providing these things aren't living in slums working 16hr days for less than meager wages. Global market resources that are good, organic, and fairly produced should be the goal. But I think that we need to start buying mainly American products for a while to get the economy bouncing back and not have it based on speculation and turnovers on homes.
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Sat Aug-18-07 04:02 PM
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...what happens to those people working 16 hour days for meager wages if we stop buying their products. Does their life style improve or decline?
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Sat Aug-18-07 04:09 PM
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8. That's a good question |
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Here's another one...
What happens to those people working 16 hour days for meager wages after our economy collapses, takes most of the rest of the world with it, and nobody can buy their products anymore?
We can grow foreign economies without exploiting them or damaging our own. I don't think the current situation is doing that.
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Sat Aug-18-07 06:54 PM
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16. This is where real trade agreements are reached... Standards for |
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importation and figuring a fair tariff for importing the goods. If a "rich" and I use that term loosly..a "rich" country says to a developing country, these are our terms for importation.. it forces them to regulate their workers rights. It also forces their products to be better and ensure the quality is there... I would assume better working standards world-wide would create demand for the product's quality and not its quantity so much...
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Sun Aug-19-07 03:02 AM
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Sun Aug-19-07 04:05 AM
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27. You can never "know" that unless you GO there and buy it in person |
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That's the rub.. Any product you buy here, that contains "foreign" stuff that is from a 3rd world country...well you can be SURE the employees there are NOT being treated or paid well..
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Sat Aug-18-07 12:55 PM
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Sat Aug-18-07 01:38 PM
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3. Thanks, good find! n/t |
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Sat Aug-18-07 02:01 PM
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Sat Aug-18-07 04:06 PM
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6. Did you ever consider... |
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that people thrown out of work can't afford to pay for American goods and services?
Worker solidarity isn't like a garment that can be put on or taken off when it's convenient. After NAFTA, MFN for China, and all the other neo-liberal economics of the last 4 administrations, I'm afraid it is likely too late to put the genie back in the bottle.
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Sat Aug-18-07 04:08 PM
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7. Welcome to DU, Romulox! |
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Sat Aug-18-07 04:12 PM
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9. Did you ever consider... |
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If those jobs weren't moved overseas for cheap labor, that maybe people wouldn't be thrown out of work in the first place?
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Sat Aug-18-07 04:40 PM
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14. I don't support outsourcing |
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But America has, as a whole, for 25 years or more.
Perfect example: When I worked in Tech Support, about 90% of my coworkers drove Japanese cars.
When an investment firm bought our company, 100% of us were "laid off". The tech support is now done overseas.
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Sat Aug-18-07 04:42 PM
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15. And we need to step in and do something about it. |
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Or this issue will be even more pressing 25 years from now.
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Sat Aug-18-07 07:01 PM
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17. that is much of my point n/t |
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Sat Aug-18-07 04:25 PM
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13. What if the people who can buy domestic, do, and those who can't |
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just do whatever they need to get by. Even though not everybody can afford to shop outside the big-box stores, that's no reason why those who can purchase domestic shouldn't do so.
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Sat Aug-18-07 08:11 PM
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18. NAFTA is neo-liberal? |
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That will be a surprise to the Republican Congress who approved it.
NAFTA a pro-corporation.
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Sat Aug-18-07 09:44 PM
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21. Sorry, I should have chosen my terms more carefully... |
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By "neo-liberal", I refer to the corporatist laissez-faire ideology of the Republicans and the "third way" DLC Democrats. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalismBTW, Bill Clinton signed NAFTA. Fact.
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Sun Aug-19-07 03:32 AM
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26. Yes, it's a pretty well known fact that President Clinton signed NAFTA. |
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I have never heard of the "third way" DLC democrats. Would you explain the the "third way", please?
The corporatist laissez-faire ideology of the Republicans is "neo-liberal"? Well, that is news to me.
It is really hard to keep current, when all the MSM gives you is comprehensive coverage on Lindsay Lohan's DUII's.
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Sun Aug-19-07 05:33 AM
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Edited on Sun Aug-19-07 05:34 AM by Ravachol
Not sure if I got it well, if it was sarcasm or not, but yes, it's neo-liberal in nature.
We have to remember the differences between "social" liberalism and "economic" liberalism. Most people that favor social liberalism (gay rights, pro-choice, equality) also tend to be less liberal when it comes to economy.
Despite the fact that nearly every "political" word in the USA has been twisted and distorted of its original meaning (i.e: liberal), most neocons are actually called neoliberals everywhere else. ;) 'Cause that's what they are: neoliberals who think that "the freer the market, the freer the people". And regressive bigots on social issues.
Anyway. Getting late.
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Sun Aug-19-07 06:10 AM
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30. Thanks for the explanation. |
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Well, if you put it that way, I don't care what they're called! Here or anywhere else, LOL. That's kind of weird and interesting.
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Sat Aug-18-07 04:16 PM
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10. It is the drive of profit motivation that brings about such practices |
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And US companies are no innocent players in that arena.
Regulations are what serves the nation to see to it that Corporate profit motives do not lead to our demise. The same standards that we insist our companies adhere to should also be projected onto products we import.
Do not look to a Corporation to protect your better interests. They are only interested in your money. Be they Chinese or American.
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Sat Aug-18-07 04:17 PM
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I added this to my favorites and sent it to my family and friends .
:patriot:
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Sat Aug-18-07 04:21 PM
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12. What interesting responses your post has engendered. |
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Fear mongering has become second nature to some. Thanks for posting this. It will be useful. More than ever, shopping is politics. Have you seen the Made In America cable series with John Ratzenberger? http://travel.discovery.com/tv/ratzenberger-america/ratzenberger-america.html
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Sat Aug-18-07 09:15 PM
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19. Thanks for Posting. Will Pass This On. |
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Sat Aug-18-07 09:27 PM
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20. thanks for posting this |
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it is too bad that Sam Walton's successors did away with the Made in the USA theme. I am sure that it is much harder now to find USA made products.
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Sat Aug-18-07 09:44 PM
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Sat Aug-18-07 09:51 PM
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23. It doesn't seem like that long ago |
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that I checked everything at the store and put back anything that said "made in China". Then almost overnight, EVERYTHING was "made in China"! It was so frustrating as my two choices were buy "made in China" or buy nothing.
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Sun Aug-19-07 03:00 AM
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Just randomly click on one of the topics. I selected "bicycles" and "computers". Most, if not all of the listing would not be very useful if I wanted to buy either.
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Sun Aug-19-07 04:23 AM
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28. Thank you kindly for the bookmark! |
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Chinese slave-made goods are overpriced shoddy garbage. Increasing numbers of informed consumers are scrutinizing their purchases.
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