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Sat Aug-18-07 02:35 PM
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If given the Choice......... |
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would you:
1) Want a world without weapons of warfare...guns, bombs, missles, knives etc?
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2) A world without organized religion?
You can ONLY choose one. Your genie in the bottle is being stingy today.
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Sat Aug-18-07 02:42 PM
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1. Get rid of the dogma and you can keep the religions around |
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If the words maybe and perhaps were more often present in statements of belief religion (and various political systems) would be far more peaceful.
Getting rid of the weapons would just limit the amount of damage an individual can do. Get rid of the dogmas of the world and you will do a lot more good towards achieving peace. People can still beat a person to death without a weapon. During the Iraq/Iran wars the Iranians would swarm the Iraqis with unarmed combatants who would try to beat them to death by shear numbers.
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Sat Aug-18-07 03:35 PM
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That includes ideological dogma as well--such as the capitalistic and communistic dogma.
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Sat Aug-18-07 03:37 PM
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12. Doubt to me is far more valuable than faith |
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Faith leads to differences. Doubt leads to understanding.
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Sat Aug-18-07 03:47 PM
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14. But ideologs don't like doubt either |
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Ask anyone who has studied the workings of the Khmer Rouge or the Maoists during the Cultural Revolution.
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Sat Aug-18-07 03:58 PM
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Dogma is not exclusive to religion. And religion is not defined by dogma.
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Sat Aug-18-07 02:44 PM
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2. A world without organized - or unorganized - religion |
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Fuck a bunch of god-freaks. They would do as well to believe in the tooth faerie.
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Sat Aug-18-07 03:35 PM
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10. As a "God freak" hopefully not one of the bad ones |
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Sat Aug-18-07 02:47 PM
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without organized religion, we probably wouldn't have much need for option number 1.
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Sat Aug-18-07 03:36 PM
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11. The Khmer people may disagree with you |
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the Killing Fields took place in Cambodia based upon communist dogma, not anything dealing with religion. I agree with Az, get rid of dogma of all kinds-including ideological dogma.
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Sat Aug-18-07 02:47 PM
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4. A world without organized religion |
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Get rid of the myths of imaginary sky-people and put down the bibles, catechisms, korans, torahs, etc. and read about reality, and the warfare, etc. will take care of diminishing itself.
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Sat Aug-18-07 02:47 PM
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5. I wouldn't get rid of either. Neither weapons nor religion are the problem, people are. |
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Edited on Sat Aug-18-07 02:48 PM by porphyrian
And I wouldn't get rid of people, because I am one. You can put a bunch of Buddhist monks in a room full of weapons and nothing bad will likely come of it. However, give a sociopath, who's determined to kill, a spork and you have a bloodbath. Don't confuse the tools with those who use them for ill.
Edit: commas for clarity
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Sat Aug-18-07 02:48 PM
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6. No contest: no weapons. |
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Sat Aug-18-07 02:51 PM
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7. Organized religion will always find ways and means to kill. |
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Getting rid of organized religion will reduce the need for the armies.
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Sat Aug-18-07 03:32 PM
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8. A world without weapons |
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I would hope the Jinn would work from the Jinn plane (which emphasizes the mental) to help us actually live by the tenets of the various religions.
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Sat Aug-18-07 03:46 PM
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13. I want a better genie. |
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Sat Aug-18-07 04:00 PM
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16. A world without religion. Ah, I can only wish... |
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Get rid of weapons and people will still kill each other with their bare hands, so it's kinda futile.
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Sat Aug-18-07 04:01 PM
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17. In disagreements over dogma, absent the weapons of war |
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everyday tools and even things just found like rocks will turn into weapons.
The only way to end war is to end the reason for it. Religion supplies a great deal of the reason war is sold to a population. If god wants a war, who are mere mortals to deny it?
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Sat Aug-18-07 04:39 PM
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18. The world without weapons definitely... |
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Religion mainly becomes bad when it's enforced at gunpoint.
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