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Wed Aug-22-07 07:10 PM
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So We Should of Stayed in Vietnam? |
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CNN called this speech POWERFUL. They are worse than Faux.
Can you imagine what the media would say if Al Gore said this.
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Wed Aug-22-07 07:13 PM
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1. I'm on my something like two months of no cnn by choice |
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I pulled the plug on them over their hit piece on MM using sanja kupta or however he spells it. Damned if it doesn't feel good to not be watching cnn anymore.
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Wed Aug-22-07 07:36 PM
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13. congrats....i weaning myself. |
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Wed Aug-22-07 07:43 PM
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14. I went through that too, took a while cause I kinda liked the old curmudgeon Jack |
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but man o man I haven't looked back since I took the big step of pulling the plug.
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Wed Aug-22-07 07:14 PM
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Yeah, we should have stayed until we "won." :sarcasm:
That's the Bushitler way.
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Wed Aug-22-07 07:16 PM
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3. How long do you think we left for? There's a McDonalds in Siagon right now. |
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Wed Aug-22-07 07:18 PM
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4. Off the top of my head, |
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I think it was 1991 when McCain and Kerry went to Nam with regard to the POW/MIA issue which was instrumental in normalizing relations with Viet Nam. Why do I think I'm going to regret not Googling?
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ThomWV
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Wed Aug-22-07 07:29 PM
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7. So roughly 10 years on the outside? |
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Don't worry, I'm not going to jump down your throat with a quickly found date that might show you to be wrong by 3.72 days or some foolish shit like that.
My point was that in the end not much of anything was changed by that horrible war other than to show how big a mistake we had made in the first place and how it may have been at a much earlier date had we just not gone in the first place.
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Rodanthe
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Wed Aug-22-07 07:35 PM
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12. Are you suggesting we should have listened to the French? |
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Both times? Hush yo mouf! *gasp*
In a more serious tone: The US has a long and involved history of doing really shitty things in the name of "stopping the spread of Communism" - while people are probably most familiar with Viet Nam because that was, after all, a police action, the US has been involved in numerous failed efforts in Chile, Nicaragua, Guatemala, etc, etc. - the lessons of Viet Nam are not unique to US history. We, as a country, have simply refused to learn our lesson. So, in other words, it wasn't just that "horrible war" that shows our mistakes, but our repeated attempts to influence the governments of sovereign nations show that as well. One would think we would have been able to figure it out by now, but apparently not.
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Wed Aug-22-07 07:18 PM
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Wed Aug-22-07 07:27 PM
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6. I think that was the message, by God. |
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But who can tell for sure, when it's Bush?
He's such a clown. They replayed his speech today on AAR (Thank God, I didn't watch it or I would have lost my lunch).
It's just so ludicrous, that he would have brought up Viet Nam. Considering he knows nothing about that war....
....except that he stayed out of it.
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Wed Aug-22-07 07:30 PM
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8. No. Only an idiot would even suggest that. |
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Can any one name an idiot who suggested such a thing today?
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Wed Aug-22-07 07:33 PM
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9. Which end was bush speaking out of? Because this was a load of crap. |
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Wed Aug-22-07 07:33 PM
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10. He wants to divide the country over Vietnam now. |
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There has never been a worse human being in the presidency.
Bush thinks he can get the American people arguing about Vietnam and sneak out of office. Maybe he is right. But how low can he go? There seems to be no limit.
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Wed Aug-22-07 07:35 PM
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11. That's what Iraq really is all about...... |
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... They've been steaming for literally DECADES about being forced to leave Vietnam. They're gonna show us this time. No matter how many people they kill.
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Wed Aug-22-07 07:50 PM
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15. What's this "we" shit? |
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Wed Aug-22-07 08:21 PM
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18. My first thought too, TN |
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I fell between Korea and VietNam, so the closest I got to any action was in Task Force 77 sailing between Red China and Taiwan, or Formosa as we called it then, during the Quemoy, Matsu dust-up. My good buddy was always saying that "next time, I'm was going to stay behind and protect the women and children". This was accompanied by a crude gesture. Bush did his bit protecting the women and children.
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Wed Aug-22-07 07:53 PM
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16. Bush loves death. It's that simple. |
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Wed Aug-22-07 07:54 PM
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17. These assholes never change... |
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"If we'd have stayed, we would have won!" is a lousy way of rationalization for the armchair warriors. WHAT would we have won? Really, think about it.
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