Crack, Heroin, Meth, Cocaine, & Marijuana?

[Philosoraptor]

Did we ever win that big war on drugs, or does it just go on forever like the bush wars?

Why is marijuana STILL thrown in there with crack, heroin, meth, and cocaine?

That old lady across the street who smokes a bowl and has a shot of whiskey before she goes to bed at night, is she the same as a crack addict on the street, and should she be treated as such by the law?

That kid that mows your lawn who likes to smoke the weed with his buds, is he as equally criminal as a heroin addict who steals or sells his or her body for drugs?

Millions upon millions of fine, upstanding, productive, patriotic Americans like to enjoy a good green smoke, and every fucking one of them is a criminal.

Like most American wars, the war on poverty, the war on drugs, the war on terror, it just doesn't make any sense, and it just goes on forever, the prison industry is going great guns, the death industry too, huge profits are being realized from busting punks with a roach, lawyers are doing great, as are judges, prosecutors, and lawmakers.

How many criminals do you know? Shouldn't you turn these people into the Department of Homeland Security under the patriot act?

Shouldn't you turn in your son, your daughter, your mom and dad for smoking the herb? Aren't you also a criminal if you DON'T turn them in?

Does your grandma smoke dope? Your hair stylist? Your niece, husband, cousin, doctor, mailman, plumber, baker, pipe fitter, break the law of the land repeatedly?

Who is the ENEMY in this mythical war on drugs? Why its YOU, you low life, drug addled, law breaking, weak minded shiftless pot smoking hippie layabout.

To leave the war on drugs prematurely or on some imaginary timetable wouldn't be prudent at this time I suppose, because if we just walk away from it, America will descend into chaos, insurgent pot heads will attack and torture millions of innocent people, like zombies on meth.

We will never stop in our relentless onslaught against the enemies of sobriety, until every last pot head is in Gitmo or dead. America is safer because millions of marijuana smokers are behind bars!

Just give the war on marijuana six more months, you'll see, progress is being made, the media just won't show it.

[zabet]

1. ooops..

I only know a few who are not, or have not been 'criminals' as
far as herbage goes. :shrug:

Like all other 'wars', the war on drugs is a profiteering venture
for the few, by the many, for our government.

[porphyrian]

2. Drugs win! The prison industrial complex wins! Everybody wins!

Well, except for the average user, who gets mandatory minimum sentences while rapists and murderers get paroled, but we're not supposed to look at the big picture.

[msongs]

3. drugs are gods will nt

[verse18]

4. Another reason why marijuana should not be included with the others.

Heroine, crack, cocaine, meth, alcohol, cigarettes and prescription pills have all been chemically processed in some way to alter them from their original state,yet three of these things are legal. Marijuana is not. Marijuana is still a plant. It's like being arrested for having a fern.

[goclark]

5. they shouldn't be lumped together

but I heard on television the other day that recent findings are saying that pot smokers are having more than average memory problems as they age.

I was shocked because I had never heard that before.

[Richard D]

6. Heard what before?

[Maraya1969]

11. Huh?

[Richard D]

16. Joking.

Read the post above. Like I was responding to the last line but forgot the first. I have an obscure sense of humor.

[tridim]

7. Let me guess.. "Some scientists say"?

Pot affects short term memory which IMO can be a desirable effect.

[Gruenemann]

9. Can't remember if I'd heard that or not. n/t

[here_is_to_hope]

15. Or couldnt remember you had heard it before?

:hi:

[Nordmadr]

24. Ok, decided not to be the third person to make the same joke. NT

[coco77]

25. Maybe they need it to ...

stop thinking about all of this Bushit...

[lazyriver]

8. Oxycontin is legal and herb isn't

That's f'ed up.

[Mabus]

13. But, but, but

the pharmaceutical companies don't get a cut if someone smokes pot like they do if someone gets addicted to prescription drugs. As long as pot doesn't benefit corporations financially they will fight legalizing it.

[lazyriver]

17. Yup. Even if they were supplying "medical" marijuana,

they couldn't ever sell it on the market for the ridiculous prices they get for their "legal" narcotics. People can grow it at home for practically free but most can't synthesize Oxycontin or Xanex or any of the other feel good pills at home. Big Pharma has cornered the market on these designer drugs and marijuana just might eat into those sales if people were allowed to self medicate with much cheaper and safer alternatives grown in the garden next to the tomatoes (speaking purely in the hypothetical sense, I assure you). ;)

[Mabus]

28. and because they can't make money on it

they rally against it. It is so stupid that the government is willing to give up taxes on it in exchange for campaign contributions.

[grace0418]

18. That's exactly it. You can grow marijuana in your garden and pharma companies

can't do anything about it unless it's made illegal.

[Mabus]

29. That's it exactly

If pot were legal it would affect pharma sales for depression, sleep, appetite problems, stress, glaucoma, nausea and other drugs.

Don't forget that the alcohol beverage people don't want pot legalized either. They're afraid that their sales will be affected if pot was legal, 'cuz, as we all know, people never smoke pot and have an alcoholic beverage at the same time :eyes: .

[OnionPatch]

10. This brings up a issue I've often pondered

How many people have disdain for law authorities for the single reason that they feel unjustly persecuted by marijuana laws? Most smokers I know are upstanding, successful, professional people. But they are skeptical and non-supportive of local law enforcement because of these ridiculous laws that would make them criminals. Think of all the support our local law enforcement agencies are losing from the communities because of this archaic, unreasonable law. Think of all the tax dollars that we are spending to lock up marijuana users? Where could our law enforcement be better used? I can think of a million places.

[mopinko]

12. think of how many cops

just take bribes, rather than enforce stupid laws?

[formercia]

20. Think how many cops

smoke pot themselves.


The laws are used selectively as a tool of repression to target those the authorities deem to be a 'problem'.

[mopinko]

22. ding ding ding

we have a winner.
and yup, many cops just take your bag, and say see ya.

[coco77]

26. Remember the judge caught smoking...

in his car before going into court...

[formercia]

30. He must have pissed someone off. n/t

[Extend a Hand]

14. crack, heroin, meth, and cocaine are addictive

Addition should be treated as a medical problem not as a criminal activity. All I can figure is that marijuana is still illegal because somebody is profiting handsomely from it.

[formercia]

19. How to grow and smoke pot without fear of arrest:

Become a snitch.

I've known people who were allowed to grow and distribute and operated with impunity because they snitched on others.

The system is screwed. It's just another tool of repression.


God forbid they should arrest all of the gun totn', hard drinkin' right-wing good ole' boy pot heads.

There would need to be 4 times as many prisons.

[tomreedtoon]

21. If we end the war, a pothead will follow you home.

Of course, if he's truly stoned, a pothead will follow ANYONE home.

[Katherine Brengle]

23. Marijuana should most definitely be legal.

And taxed to hell, and have the same rules as alcohol.

I miss my stoner days... I was a little slower, but I was sure happy.

[Wcross]

40. Why should a plant grown in your garden be taxed?

Should we tax your tomato plants as well? If something does not leave my property the government has no right to tax it.

[Jed Dilligan]

27. The only difference I see is that

marijuana shouldn't be free. It should be sold and taxed like any other produce.

The government should be registering addicts and handing out the other drugs for free. It would undercut the market, put the dealers and gangs out of business, ensure the relative safety of users, allow more meaningful research into the causes of addiction, and most of all take the glamor (and the underground marketing push) that attracts kids out of the picture. How "cool" would going to the government clinic for your daily shot be? We could eliminate addiction in one generation if we went this route, but we never will because this is essentially a Puritan nation, more concerned with form than function.

[The Vinyl Ripper]

39. Should the government register alcohol addicts..

And give them alcohol for free?

Alcohol is more addictive than cocaine and about as addictive as heroin.

[Jed Dilligan]

41. There was a study in Canada a couple of years ago

where they gave winos wine at a drop-in center. They had a better outcome than the control group.

[Prophet 451]

31. Marijuana can't be legalised

Here's the thing: I want pot legalised. I haven't smoked the stuff in years but I can't see any reason for pot (used responsibly, of course) to be illegal. But the chances of it being legal are minimal because there is too much money in keeping it illegal.

Who stands to make money off legalised pot? The tobacco barons I guess but that's about it, maybe food manufacturers (hemp seed makes a disgusting but very nutritious gruel).

Who stands to lose money if pot is legalised? Big Pharma (on painkillers, if nothing else), textile merchants (clothes made from hemp are harder-wearing and cheaper), pesticide merchants (cotton takes lots of pesticides to grow, cannabis is quite difficult to stop growing), the law enforcement industry (and that's a big one, mega-corporations have grown up to support the war on some drugs). Hemp can be used to produce lamp oil, paint, textiles, paper (ever see a Bible on really thin glossy paper? That's hemp), cosmetics and on and on. Hemp can be grown to be so cheap and so plentiful that the prices of all these goods plummet. I hope I don't need to point out that it's in the corporate interest to keep prices high and one way of doing that is keeping cannabis illegal and therefore, keeping hemp illegal.

Lots of corporate interests with lots of money versus an underfunded coalition of stoners and activists with the truth on their side = no contest.

[grannie4peace]

32. pot

did you see on "the power of 10" 58% of people polled said pot was less harmful than alcohol"? there is never enough news all at the same time to address the facts behind the reasons for it's legal status. if some news people would research & do an honest story about pot's history,say primetime, it would do a lot to help change things--- show all the adverse affects it's status has on peoples lives, the prisons. people who fear it have an irrational fear--not based in sound reasoning:yoiks:

[Oldenuff]

34. I saw a link recently about that

Grammy.

It seems a lot of folks support the Chronic.;-)

The "green" should be "free".

Slim chance of it ever being legalized?Only if we don't get involved.

[Philosoraptor]

33. ...................

[ms liberty]

35. KR&B. n/t

[ismnotwasm]

36. Marijuana?

I have no idea, other than it keeps the prisons too full for the very long sentences rapists and child molesters should be getting.

On the unit I work once in a while, in my state that weak-ass Marinol is prescribed (Canada has a much better marijuana derivative, of course illegal in the US) I had a patient with Chohns disease flat out state "I'll try it, but if it doesn't work, I'm still smoking pot". It didn't work for this person. Smoking pot did. It works for other things besides nausea. Those who can't smoke can eat brownies or whatever. Here is a suffering individual, denied the one cheap and easy drug that gives him relief from intractable nausea.

The whole situation is disgusting.

Interestingly, they're finding cannaboid receptors all over the brain. The implications for health care are big, if we can get past the profiteer's who make money off the illegality of marijuana.

[shadowknows69]

37. Yeah, they're doing wonders

A crack house just moved in above my apartment, in a neighborhood watch area, but I have to travel 20 miles to get my satchel of the green.

[potisok]

38. Different theory

Put a law in place to see who is willing to break it, not a crime that could possibly harm someone other than the user or causes property damage, just a willingness to break the law. Eliminates a lot of potential dissidents to other laws that are unjust or oppressing.

Plus it creates jobs and revenue. OBEY THE LAW after all its for your own good. :sarcasm:

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