"Mind Fuck of the Dirty Hippies"........

[KoKo]

Pol Pot R Us
by Digby

This is truly amazing. The president of the United States is actually blaming his own country for the Cambodian genocide. Even Normon Podhoretz and his creature Rudy Giuliani haven't had the nerve to make that argument. Old Norm was adamant that the Vietnam Syndrome had helped turn the US into a bunch of wimps, but he didn't actually blame the US for Pol Pot.

For the record, as I'm sure everyone knows, Pol Pot's rise was enabled by the US's war policies not by its withdrawal and it was the newly minted commies who ended the genocide so Bush is, as usual, talking gibberish.

And while Norm went way back to the 70's to show how our allegedly feckless policies in the middle east he didn't go this far:

There was another price to our withdrawal from Vietnam, and we can hear it in the words of the enemy we face in today's struggle -- al-Qaeda. In an interview with a Pakistani paper after the 9/11 attacks, Bin Laden declared that 'the American people had risen against their government's war in Vietnam. They must do the same today.' . . . . Here at home, some can argue our withdrawal from Vietnam carried no price to American credibility -- but the terrorists see things differently."

Now, Bush is saying that not only are the dirty hippies of today giving comfort to the terrorists the dirty hippies of the past caused terrorism. It all ties together so nicely.

But, you know, as Bush often says, history is for dead people. (Or something like that.) These pomo neocon historians are hard at work rejiggering the narratives all the time, both current and historical. (I'm beginning to think it's a massive mind-fuck operation done with the express purpose of making us all crazy having to defend the obvious all the time. Perhaps they figure we'll just give up at some point and submit to their will out of sheer exhaustion.)

I find his latest plea really rich in light of the fact that he also seems to be saying that he wouldn't exactly stand in anybody's way if they decided to depose Diem --- er Maliki. Both Carl Levin and Bush (and now Clinton, apparently) came out with statements that Maliki is the problem and then Bush backtracks the next day? Come on. I don't know if this is some kind of crude good cop bad cop or what, but it doesn't make sense.

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[RaleighNCDUer]

1. Never mind that it was our "incursion" into Cambodia that tilted

them over the edge and put the Khmer Rouge in power - or that it was the invasion, subsequent to our withdrawal, of Cambodia by the communist Vietnamese that put an end to the Khmer Rouge atrocities. IOW, the Vietnamese cleaned up OUR messes.

What this looks like to me is that Bushco just believes Bin Laden's propaganda. Bin Laden has a vested interest in us STAYING in Iraq - it hardens the world against us, produces recruits for his Jihad, it cripples us militarily, and divides us internally.

Why are we doing what Bin Laden wants?

[KoKo]

3. Prince Bandar Bush...just might be one reason. Poppy & Saudi's

go way back.

I guess should be thankful for all the Saudi Money that has been pushed into our economy. :sarcasm:

[On the Road]

2. Actually, the US *Is* Partly to Blame for the Pol Pot Regime

seeing that it triggered the demise of the government by:

-- carpet bombing the whole eastern part of the Cambodia, creating a refugee crisis, and

-- deposing Prince Sihanouk in a coup, resulting in a fragile miliatry government.