Troops deploying to Washington DC

[Extend a Hand]

http://www.wesh.com/news/13949580/detail.html

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Members of the 1st Battalion 265 Air Defense Artillery have mobilized and are on a plane headed first to Ft. Bliss, then for federal active duty in the capital region.

The troops will be deployed for a year.
...
The 265th is part of Operation Noble Eagle.

They are ordered by the president to the nation's capital, where they will operate high-tech weapons systems against any potential air threat.


This kind of thing just creeps me out.

[in_cog_ni_to]

1. Just in time for the September protest.

:scared:

[mod mom]

16. my thoughts exactly.

[tom_paine]

24. Bingo. Probably won't happen, but Bushler would gleefully order a Kent State

a hundred a THOUSAND Kent States and he wouldn't lose a wink of sleep, the monster.

Of COURSE they are there for the protest.

Intimidation. ANOTHER common component of the Nazis and their Kinder and Gentler spiritual descendants, the Bushies.

[malaise]

40. Ditto n/t

[SeattleGirl]

63. Yep. That's exactly what it is.

Gee, I just LOVE the freedom we enjoy under this pResident. :sarcasm:

[partylessinOhio]

2. Will this coincide with the Bush/Iran/War?

Better get on this Nancy and Dimwit!

:thumbsdown:

[slater71]

80. Could be.

I thought the same thing. They left about three hours after Josh Bolton said we should attack Iran now.

[Whoa_Nelly]

3. AAARRRGGGHHH!

If in time for the September DC protest...why troops needed?

If in place to defend Darth's bunker et al., ...then WTF???


These thugs are up to something, and hve held suspicions that all the recent exec. orders re: wire tapping, references to martial law, etc., are all just a build up to something that will destroy our Constitution in one low blow.

again...

AAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!

[Posteritatis]

4. Is this something new or just rotation?

I assumed the capital always had air defense deployed.

(And wow, whatever journalist wrote that article needs to find another line of work.)

[ewagner]

7. My thought also

I'm sure that's there is an active Air Defense around the Capital at all times....

[soothsayer]

85. except on 911

[Deja Q]

8. Good call.

I highly doubt this is anything "new and disturbing, oogie boogie boo!"

[JuniperLea]

27. then why the name?

operation noble eagle?

[Posteritatis]

39. Just about any movement of anything is named these days

Pretty minor troop movements in a lot of countries get elaborate operation names. American ones tend to be more politicised nowadays, but I think a lot of the simpler ones are picked at random from a list of adjectives followed by a list of nouns/abstracts or whatever. "Noble Eagle" is probably some dumbass showboating a non-issue, but it could've been a random number generator too.

[Posteritatis]

43. ...or maybe the name's been around for awhile

As someone mentioned downthread. "Noble Eagle" is apparently the name for all homeland security operations since 9/11, which is (A) ridiculously broad and (B) definitely some dumbass showboating.

[Kool Kitty]

75. They are using that name because

"Operation Protect President Shithead" doesn't sound as nice when it's announced on CNN.;)

[WillyT]

88. LOL !!!

:rofl:

[file83]

76. Operation Noble Eagle logo:

Considering this Operation was born out of the aftermath of 9/11 - I think it's a creepy logo.

I take it the AWAC airplane is the "Noble Eagle" - but Noble Eagle's acronym is N.E. - which could also signify the airspace they are covering: North East

But what do I know...

[nadinbrzezinski]

83. Becuase whenever troops get deployment orders

like this, DoD likes cute names

[tbyg52]

5. How many people is this?

What are these "high-tech weapons systems"? Why now? My paranoia has been fully activated....

[Posteritatis]

12. A battalion's a few hundred people

Assuming they're sending the entire thing; the wording's vague so it might just be a company or something. The weapons systems are likely SAMs and the associated gadgetry. (Probably AAA, too, but I don't know if the US military pays much attention to that compared to other places).

[Snotcicles]

48. A battalion is someone who makes baskeddy. nt

[Posteritatis]

64. Argh! You're grounded! Go to your room! (nt)

[windbreeze]

94. ROFLMAO....

and I do mean that literally....LOL...wb...thanks for the laugh...

[SalmonChantedEvening]

107. I oughta give you a pizza my mind

Ya Derned Wisenheimer...

[Dan]

66. old days

four standard companies, and a HQ company. Approximately 1000. But then, that was thirty plus years ago, and I am getting old...but think that is right.

[Contrary1]

41. There were 400 members in 2003, according to the linked article

http://www.news-journalonline.com/special/wariniraq/030603.htm

[OzarkDem]

6. Bush trying to intimidate Congress

He's done this before, surrounding them in a cocoon of fear, terror and weapons.

Its psychological intimidation, pure and simple.

[niyad]

9. and, of course, we have the manual for how to silence protestors, too.

[BeHereNow]

10. Fuckarama...this is about Iran.

They are preparing for retaliation.
WE are so SCREWN.
BHN:hide:

[Wiley50]

13. Agree

They are setting up a defence of the Capital city in preparation for launching WW4

We are now truly screwn

[BeHereNow]

14. Explains all those recent executive orders, now doesn't it?

Prepare for martial law.
State of emergency et al...

GOD DAMN the neocons and our complicit congress.

BHN

[JuniperLea]

21. Yep...

connect the dots...

[BeHereNow]

25. I have been connecting the dots...that's why I am completely DEPRESSED.

WE are so powerless against this criminal kkkabal and
our congress is complicit- therefore our options are??????
We have no options at this point except to watch the
horror unfold.
BHN

[JuniperLea]

33. already something on wikipedia?!?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Noble_Eagle

creepy patch...

[Posteritatis]

44. "Already," hell, that article's nearly four years old. (nt)

[onenote]

110. delete dupe

[Altean Wanderer]

54. Yes, very depressing

and perhaps only a few percent of our fellow citizens realize what could happen in the next year or so given a war with Iran and/or the imposition of an outright dictatorship in this country.

[tavalon]

79. Watch and try to be ready for ?

There are so few of us paying attention. We are the watchers. It's all we can do right now, that and be ready. We will end up as the leaders of ?

[Desert Liberal]

115. We will end up the leaders of...

an armed revolution, if we aren't careful. Cheesus Crust, is it really coming to this? I REFUSE TO LET MY WONDERFUL, ONCE-REGAL NATION BECOME A FUCKING TOTALITARIAN POLICE STATE!

While I DO NOT ADVOCATE such a thing, it is creeping inexorably closer.

Watch out, guys and dolls, the times are a changin'!

:scared: :hide: :tinfoilhat:

[tavalon]

117. I know

I don't like it either. I used a question mark but it's becoming less of a question mark with time. Before this last election, I was relying on my elected officials to avoid that kind of outcome. They haven't done well at all. It's like they haven't even tried to avoid that possible, terrible outcome.

[nadinbrzezinski]

103. On this small aspect if you are right

a batallion is hardly enough

Yes, there are many dots to connect but this small thing, is a normal rotation

[leftchick]

47. wtf does congress care about us?

They will have their comfortable bunkers, compounds and private security to keep them from the masses. This is all so fucking sick!

[Individualist]

18. Agreed

It will most likely be accompanied by martial law. As I've said before, the closer it gets to September, the more apprehensive I become.

[BeHereNow]

20. Well, given the protest scheduled on Sept 15...I would bet they are up to something.

Question is, will the pre emptive attack occur before or after the
protest.
Unfortunately, my guess would be before at this point.
That would effectively cancel the protest and the
troops are in place to enforce the martial law this way.
Holy hell, I don't even want to think about all of this.
BHN

[Individualist]

23. I believe you're right

The cabal has most likely been using the August vacation to put the finishing touches on their plans.

[BeHereNow]

26. Makes sense in a horrifying way, doesn't it...

I wish someone could clarify whether this deployment is
a rotation or not.
BHN

[nadinbrzezinski]

105. From the size of it, a rotation

they have had air defense units coming in and out of DC since shortly after 9.11

A batalion is truly a small unit and artillery units suck at crowd control. It is not part of their training schedule

I agree with you that something's up, but this is not a bell of what is going up

Now to be brutally honest, if they decide to go that route... bet on Black Water to serve as a Praetorian guard more than army troops, especially an arty batalion

[JTFrog]

32. Do you think

there will come a point when American soldiers would turn their guns around and point them at Bush et al? We are talking about Americans vs. Americans. Fighting over there against an imagined enemy is one thing. Having to turn your weapons on your neighbors and countrymen is quite another.

I don't have time to move to Mexico do I? :cry:

[Amonester]

92. It seems (Un-)American soldiers R already torturing Americans:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1658802

Those who blow whistle on contractor fraud in Iraq face penalties
DEBORAH HASTINGS, AP National Writer
August 24, 2007 12:24 PM

~snip~

For daring to report illegal arms sales, Navy veteran Donald Vance says he was imprisoned by the American military in a security compound outside Baghdad and subjected to harsh interrogation methods.

There were times, huddled on the floor in solitary confinement with that head-banging music blaring dawn to dusk and interrogators yelling the same questions over and over, that Vance began to wish he had just kept his mouth shut.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1658802
~~~~~

ARRRRRG!

[Wiley50]

37. My guess is they'll do it on 9/11 so as to tie it in the public's mind to 9/11/01

They know how to market so well that it's completely transparent
to those of us that are hep to such strategies

and the 9/11 retrospectives they always show on Fox and everywhere this time of year

have the sheeple all worked up to anger in remembrance of what happened


Rovian Marketing techniques

[kestrel91316]

11. That would be the sort of high-tech weapons systems that they used

with such great effect on Sep 11, 2001?

Enquiring minds want to know.......

[Canuckistanian]

56. *snort* You got that right.

Look at all that money that was saved by NOT deploying all those defense weapons.

[Amonester]

93. they didn't use "mobile microwave weapons" to cook civilians

in '01... :evilfrown:
:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[JTFrog]

15. Operation Noble Eagle

is part of the Garden Plot:

"Oversight of these homeland security missions should be provided by the National Guard Bureau based on the long-standing Garden Plot model in which National Guard units are trained and equipped to support civil authorities in crowd control and civil disturbance missions."

[BeHereNow]

17. "crowd control and civil disturbance missions."

Yeah, as in when Americans FINALLY wake up,
they are going to be REALLY pissed.
BHN:hide:

[JuniperLea]

29. i may have thought: normal rotation...

but why the name?

[onenote]

111. it is a normal rotation under the ongoing Operation Noble Eagle

How does the fact that there is an Operation Noble Eagle make it less likely that this is a rotation? Your post makes no sense

[bdamomma]

57. one thing, it mentions in their stupid manual how they think

protestors want civil unrest, but that is far from the truth, these are peaceful marches, unless they (police) want to provoke the people into doing something uncivilized.

[WillyT]

89. Yep... I'm Wondering If They Have The Agent Provocateurs Already In Place

:shrug:

[backscatter712]

91. The police have and will use provocateurs.

Just look at Montebello, Quebec...

[sarcasmo]

19. In preparation for

Martial Law.

[BeHereNow]

22. That's what we are saying upthread- Attack on Iran assures retaliation.

I'm guessing they may be planning on attacking iran
sooner that we think.
Retaliation is inevitable.
Martial law and citizen panic is certain.
Lord, how did all this happen?
BHN

[sarcasmo]

30. I have been saying it since 2004.

Stock up on your canned goods.

[soothsayer]

86. lol, i just ordered 275 veggie meals from coastco. $115 delivered

and they last 20 years. yoi need boiling water tho. I also got a solar oven, and already have a pyramid cooker that uses verrrrry little fuel). omigod, i'm becoming a crazy survivalist.

[JanMichael]

104. 275 for $115?

I'm a Costco fanatic, where did you find this? On their website or at a store?

[Wiley50]

31. Complicit Media and Politicans

It's not like a lot of us have been asleep the last seven years

We tried to tell anyone who would listen

Unfortunately, most wouldn't listen

"If it's not on Fox News it didn't happen"

[sanskritwarrior]

101. Exactly how does Iran conduct a military strike on the US

mainland???

This is a normal rotation of troops........For christsakes, not every military move is part of "the uber secret cabal of evil plans that never ever come true no matter how many times people post about them on DU"

[williesgirl]

28. Just more of our FEARful pResident - afraid of his own ugly shadow. I live in the DC

region and don't need any protection, other than from this criminal Administration and their policies.

[mmonk]

34. Why would the military need to operate

high tech weapons in Washington? More scare tactics by our dictatorship or something ominious?

[shadowknows69]

35. Fuck me sideways with a chainsaw

is it frigging time yet??

NO MORE EASY RIDE. TIME TO STAND OR HIDE.

[EFerrari]

49. What you said.

I'm glad my kids are grown so if I get in trouble, they can't take hostages. :grr:

[bdamomma]

59. people will not stand for this, who will cast the first stone????

[marmar]

36. Mon dieu!

To quote Han Solo: "I have a bad feeling about this."

[shadowknows69]

38. I'd like to propose that some brave citizens

start "Operation: Restore the Constitution" soon. While there is still a paragraph or two left.

[Skidmore]

42. If Smirk and Sneer turn guns on the people and the Congress does

nothing...

[Bitwit1234]

45. I don't think our troops would support bush against civilians.

[shadowknows69]

46. Not all

but enough would to make the streets run red.

[Posteritatis]

50. Enough wouldn't to provide multiple sources, I'd imagine. (nt)

[uppityperson]

51. Some would.

[bdamomma]

60. I don't think so either.

but there is so much shit on the agenda for Sept., the Petreaus report due on Sept. 11th, (which is really disrespectful) and Senator Warner stated he wants the fratboy to announce some sort of withdrawal and mentioned the date of Sept 15th too, which we all know what choice words * will have for him. These commercials that are out now, rallying people to support the war, which will never happen, we are dealing with some sick thugs here, showing commercials supporting war?? depicting the Trade Towers again, and relating Iraq to 9/11 it is just sick. I can't stand how they think all Americans are fools, and will buy this BS.

[windbreeze]

95. Remember Kent State??n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

106. two wods KENT STATE

learn your history

[Booster]

52. Sent this to everyone I know with a note saying "how do you all

feel about having Bush as president for life"? Going to be an interesting time. I don't think he could pull that off since so many people hate him and think he's doing a lousy job. If we wanted a dictator we'd pick Brad Pitt.

[bdamomma]

53. probably an exercise, and please do not buy into this.

especially those who are going to the protest Sept. 15th, this is how they want us to respond.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

55. Noble Eagle reminds me of the names the used for the war games held on 9/11. This sounds

like they are getting ready for martial law.

[Az_lefty]

58. OMG..they don't move units like this one around for no good reason

this guy's going to leave office like his old man, bombing the shit out of someone.
:hide:

[Individualist]

61. Another dot to connect...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1651590

Interesting timing, wouldn't you say?

[BeHereNow]

62. Wow, just wow. Yes, the timing is interesting, to say the least.

It's not looking good, is it?
BHN

[warren pease]

69. And a couple more dots...

Here are two posts from an earlier thread regarding ongoing exercises in Portland called Operation Noble Resolve, an alleged disaster scenario that offers Guard troops the opportunity to learn crowd control and riot suppression.

Note that we already have two cases on the record in which supposed exercises depicting a specific scenario went live during the exercise: on 9/11/01, Rumsfeld was running an alleged training exercise which conveniently tied up both NORAD intercepts and the air traffic control system for the critical hours between 8:30 AM and 10:30 AM EDT; and the London train bombings on 7/7/05, in which that precise scenario was being gamed by MI-5 and MI-6 and even included the same stations where the bombs went off. For added excitement, a bus that was blown up in the scenario was, in fact, blown up in London that day.

So it's not like the reptiles haven't used this tactic before. Posts with links follow:



From Portland indymedia, 8/13

"Captain Eric H. May, the Internet military intelligence writer, has written his most detailed article to date on the highly suspicious Portland Nuke exercise, Noble Resolve. He names the names of the key players in the operation, and of the military and media figures who have joined the growing outcry about what may turn out to be a false flag version of the White Houses much- predicted terror nuke."

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/08/363408.shtml


And from today.

"The U.S. military "experiment" known as "Operation Noble Resolve 07-2" begins today in Portland, with command centers in Virginia, Texas, Guam, Korea and two locations in Oregon: Salem and Portland.

"Despite the assurances of the US Joint Forces command that the exercise is "purely a computer-based simulation of an earthquake scenario in Portland", many people in the area are extremely concerned.

"Some have mentioned the possibility of the simulation "going live", as happened with the Vigilant Guardian exercise on September 11, 2001. But even without it "going live", there is the little fact that the US military is NOT the organization commissioned by Congress to respond to disasters, and by doing so, as they did in New Orleans following Katrina, they violate the long-standing tradition of 'posse comitatus', which forbids the military from engaging in domestic policing activities."

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/08/363744.shtml


Pretty light coverage, but note the change from a nuclear attack scenario to one simulating an earthquake. If this were a precursor to another false flag op to "justify" the imposition of martial law, any old disaster would do. And since Portland has fewer earthquakes than, say, the Bay Area, that would be seen as a less likely and less suspicious scenario than other disasters more common to the region, like a volcano going ballistic.

Another thing of note: Bush is absolutely detested in Portland. His daddy called the city "little Beirut" for the vehemence of protesters (back when protesting wasn't a federal crime). And Bushie Jr. has been the subject of mass protests and some fairly serious cops/protester confrontations both times he's shown up since his 2001 coronation. Same with Cheney and anybody else in this administration who tries to sneak into town for a zillion-dollar fundraiser.


SECOND POST:

From the Portland Oregonian:

"Operation Noble Resolve is actually a rolling series of exercises -- "experiments," in the parlance of the U.S. Forces Joint Command -- taking place over two years in multiple jurisdictions. The command conducted one centered in southern Virginia in April, basing it on a simulated terrorist attack. It's all a preamble to a more complex exercise called TopOff that will take place in Portland this fall."

and...

"While some choose to view this exercise as sinister -- a pretext for a nuclear attack by the U.S. military on American citizens, according to some fevered speculation -- it is, in fact, a prudent thing to do."

Fevered speculators R us, I guess. More here:

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregonian/stories/index.ssf?/...


And this from democrats.com:

"NOBLE RESOLVE is too dangerous to allow in Oregon. This exercise, drilling War of Terror scenarios in Oregon, comes just as the media is filling up with warnings of a new 9/11 and the recent Presidential Executive Orders: NSPD 51, 5/10/07, "... allows the sitting president to declare a "national emergency" without Congressional approval..."

"It's looking more and more like a perfect storm of terror, treason and totalitarianism. Drills like these have a history of going live (e.g. 09/11/01 & 07/07/05) and now we have NSPD 51 — the equivalent of Hitler's Article 48." More here:

http://www.democrats.com/node/13811


Full thread here: http://tinyurl.com/292hcc


Sleep well,


wp

[katamaran]

81. They're not "heavy" barricades

They're gates used to close off the entrance ramps of the interstate in case Hampton Roads gets hit by a major hurricane and needs to be evacuated. There are only three main routes out of here, and the interstate is the one that 90% of people will take. They will open both sides of the interstate to evacuees from Norfolk to Richmond.

They are manually operated, to be lifted or closed by hand and are not locked down or controlled by electrical devices. The bases for them are concrete, mainly to withstand idiots taking the exit ramp too fast and crashing into them. The bars themselves are simple aluminum bars with striped reflectors.

I work for a TV station in town. These gates have been planned since the 90's, but after Isabel hit here, they were accelerated. They're been putting them in for a few years. This area is well overdue for a major hurricane, and is considered one of the most vulnerable to evacuation nightmares due to our crappy road structure.

[warren pease]

90. Are hurricanes expected to hit that area anytime in the near future? n/t

[katamaran]

96. A major hurricane can hit here anytime

A major hurricane can hit here anytime. Isabel was a Cat 5 just a day before it dropped to a 2 at landfall. No, one's not going to hit here tomorrow or next week, but we've had Cat 4-5 here before, in the 1800's and early 1900's. The gates have been added over the past couple of years and were actually in the works since the 1990's.

[warren pease]

97. What's normal procedure when a hurricane is first regarded as a threat to the region?...

Are the gates closed as a routine precaution even though hurricane paths remain pretty unpredictable, or are they among the actions taken when a hurricane is pretty certain to hit with, say, a day or so?

You see where I'm going with this, obviously. If a distant threat from a hurricane is enough to close these gates, even though the storm may be several days away or never even hit the area at all, then this is just SOP and a proper precautionary measure. If this isn't SOP, and no hurricanes are in the immediate forecast, then this may be something else entirely. All depends on what SOP is.

Of course, I trust BushCo to do the worst possible thing in any situation. Combine this weird gate closing event with shipping in a new battalion of troops just in time for the mid-Sept. protests, possibly coinciding with a first strike on Iran, the ongoing Operation Noble Resolve with headquarters in Virginia and "crowd control" simulations taking place in five other locations, the recent dictatorial executive orders -- all this gets my anti-fascist antennae twitching. I'd greatly prefer to be paranoid to the point of institutionalization than right about this horrible stuff.


Thanks for the reply,


wp

[katamaran]

100. The procedure works as follows....

If a major storm, considered a Cat 3 or stronger, makes a direct run at the Hampton Roads area, and the Governor declares a state of emergency and orders an evacuation, the interstates going westbound eastbound into Hampton Roads will be reversed so that ALL lanes of traffic can be used to evacuate. They would close off the entrance ramps onto the reversed side, so that no one can exit and cause more traffic problems. Two exits would remain open between here and Richmond for food and gas. The idea is to keep traffic moving in an orderly fashion so that the area can be evacuated in 24 hours or less. This area has three major roads out, two being rural state routes, and one being I-64. 99% of the population would assume that they should take the interstate to leave the area. I-64 goes from five lanes to two lanes in Newport News. On a normal day, it creates a 20 minute backup. On a normal day, the Hampton Roads Bridge-Tunnel between Norfolk and Hampton has a one to two hour backup. On a NORMAL day. We have one of the damn worst traffic systems in the country, according to a few studies. Reversing the lanes and using the gates to keep people from jumping on and off whenever they want would keep traffic moving smoothly. it keeps people from going the wrong way on the reversed interstate.

Standard operating procedure is to use these gates ONLY if an evacuation is ordered due to IMMEDIATE threat of a major hurricane within 24 hours. They have to meet certain criteria before the area would be evacuated. They're not even that heavy. They can be lifted by hand. They can be driven around. Most of Virginia Beach, Norfolk and Hampton have to be evacuated if a Cat 3 hits because the storm surge would swallow the cities. A big chunk of Portsmouth, Chesapeake and Newport News would be evacuated in a second wave. We're talking close to 1,000,000 people. VDOT would also shut down the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel and the Monitor Merrimac Bridge-Tunnel for wind and high wave restrictions. Hell, in Isabel, barely a Cat 1 when it hit us in 2002, flooded the Midtown Tunnel in Norfolk, keeping it shut for a month. That became one less potential evac route for the city.

I work for a local TV station here and am involved in the emergency planning for our company. I wrote, designed, and created the maps for the hurricane survival guide we give out every year to viewers that has the evacuation routes and directions for the local population to use. I consult with VDOT and local emergency management officials on this every year. It's not something I take lightly. Look at what happened in New Orleans...the city waited until the last minute to order evacs, and some people ended up stuck in traffic trying to get out.

The gates have been here for two years. They ordered a bunch of troops to D.C. but I wouldn't call it a coincidence. Now, if they suddenly decided to "test" all the gates at once, then yeah, there's something up. If those troops were suddenly ordered to man the exits, yeah something's up. A few people in these threads have talked about how "close" we are to DC. We're FOUR HOURS from DC in NO traffic, and FOUR DAYS in nightmare, disaster, evacuation traffic.

Here's the info from VDOT on the gates:
http://www.virginiadot.org/travel/hurricane_gates.asp

And the conditions for lane reversal and gate use:
http://www.virginiadot.org/travel/reversal.asp

[warren pease]

102. Great explanation. Thanks, and one more thing...

You write: "Standard operating procedure is to use these gates ONLY if an evacuation is ordered due to IMMEDIATE threat of a major hurricane within 24 hours."

Is there now, or has there been within the past few days, an immediate threat of a major hurricane striking that area within 24 hours? If not, then why mess with the gates at all?

Thanks again,

wp

[katamaran]

116. They're not messing with the gates at all right now

They're not messing with the gates at all right now. The original poster in the other thread commented that he saw the gates when he was in town vacationing with his family and, being as it was the first time he'd seen the gates, felt that it was part of a greater conspiracy having to do with the DC protests and the troops deployed there. The gates are not being used at the moment. I drove through and past about a dozen of them yesterday, and all were in the upright position.

The testing that VDOT website refers to back in May was a mock hurricane and evacuation drill that they do every year as training. They checked to make sure the gates worked and were done with it.

[warren pease]

118. Thanks again. I appreciate the time you've taken to sort this out. n/t

[screembloodymurder]

98. WTF!

That's the biggest line of BS I ever heard.

[B Calm]

65. In 1970 I was ordered to go to Washington DC for riot control of war protesters.

I managed to get out of having to go by going through my liaison officer. I still went to Washington, but as a protester..ha

[shance]

78. Good for you B calm***** Wish we had more of that spirit today.

Hopefully we'll be seeing more of it.

Not for a while I'm afraid.

[Oilwellian]

67. The Busheviks noble eagle...

[lovuian]

68. Yes I agree sumthin's up maybe Bush realized

he didn't have enough troops in DC for the Iran War debacle

this guy is going to war with Iran
make no mistake

[havocmom]

71. bush wouldn't realize there was a fire if his hair was ablaze.

cheney is being forced into a corner and cheney won't come along peacefully.

[havocmom]

70. And reports of big HEAVY barricades being placed on ramps on highway

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1651590

[onenote]

113. hurricane gates

http://www.virginiadot.org/travel/hurricane_gates.asp

[EVDebs]

72. Will they be participating in acts of 'agent provacateur' as in Canada ?

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/August2007/22/c9193.html

and

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2964654

[SaveAmerica]

73. Is this a joke, a satire? Somebody tell me it is....

[EVDebs]

74. Bush is timewarping, the fall of Saigon was Operation Eagle Pull

Maybe this is *'s 'escape from D.C.' plan in order to escape to Paraguay.

[onenote]

114. No, its a normal rotation of troops assigned to DC air defense

And the hysteria displayed on this thread is pretty silly

[shance]

77. Know your history. This is essentially what they wanted Smedley Butler to do.

To lead troops into DC and take it over.

DC is the command center.

[shance]

82. Anyone with an update on Bush's troops headed to DC?

n/t

[snappyturtle]

84. kick! n/t

[WillyT]

87. Posse Comitatus Est Corruo

And possbly us with it.

:mad:

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

99. How about defending our god damn ports????

Oh, that's right......our "allies" the Saudis got our backs.... :sarcasm:

[sufrommich]

108. Were troops to be used in some super secret

mission to suppress dissent in the capitol or prop up the Bush administration or whatever other delusional threats one can dream up,I hardly think they would publish their movements in advance and in the local paper or TV news.The paranoia on this thread would be amusing were it not so disturbing. I swear there are some on this thread who have wet dreams of blood flowing in the streets.
We can make a convincing argument,as democrats, that the republicans are eroding our freedoms without the hyperbole,it only causes thinking people to stop taking us seriously.

[Telly Savalas]

112. Some people lack the maturity to face up to the real problems in our nation.

Too many shades of grey to deal with.

The notion of an imminent military takeover of the U.S., while completely unsupported by any evidence, provides nice black-and-white clarity, and is thus a good security blanket for these folks.

[onenote]

109. Sorry to disappoint the tinfoliers, but this is an ordinary rotation

The 265th is a Florida Air National Guard Unit. Air National Guard units from various parts of the country have been deployed (and rotated) on a regular basis to the DC area since 9/11. At various times, the troops deployed have been from North Dakota, Virginia, and other locations. The suggestions that this has anything to do with Iran or with intimidating Congress are among the stupidest things I've seen on DU in a while (which is saying something).

Here's a link about an earlier deployment: http://www.ngb.army.mil/news/archives/2006/12/121306-Cap_Air_Defense.aspx

(and for those that wonder, Operation Clear Skies is a part of Operation Noble Eagle (Operation Noble Eagle is the "umbrella" for a variety of operational activities relating to domestic security, post 9/11).

[wundermaus]

119. ad hominem attacks shows you hand...

Thanks for confirming our concerns.

[onenote]

120. huh?

I point out the facts, note that people are making absurd claims, and that shows my hand? Okay. My hands are clean.