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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:24 PM
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Re: California's electoral votes
Edited on Thu Aug-23-07 06:36 PM by panader0
The initiative in California would split electoral votes so that they would not all go to the winner of the popular vote. Hell, if the Dems had had this rule in Fla. in '00 or Ohio in '04, Gore or Kerry would be the boss. If Cal. does this, (and I doubt it will pass), shouldn't it be nationwide? I think the entire electoral vote thing should be tossed. How is giving the presidency to the one with less popular votes "democratic"? Edited to spell electoral cowreakly
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:26 PM
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1. My 1st preference is to get rid of the electoral college, but yes if CA does it,
so should all 49 states.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:34 PM
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2. nebraska and maine
already do this and have been for a while.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:43 PM
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3. It should be done nationwide as an alternative to abolishing the Electoral College
This ensures a smaller mathematical probability of the electoral vote disagreeing with the popular vote. To ensure an even smaller margin of error, simply abolish the College and count the votes directly, but that would likely be vetoed by smaller states because they know the College already has a slight bias in favor of smaller states.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:45 PM
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4. Dont F with the system
It is fine the way it is............Even the Erectoral College :bounce: :hi:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:47 PM
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5. The Gerrymander will replace the Eagle as our national totem spirit.
Edited on Thu Aug-23-07 06:49 PM by TahitiNut
If folks think it's bad now, I can't even imagine how bad it'd get with that.

It's one thing to apportion the electoral votes according to the statewide proportions and quite another to map them to Congressional Districts. Texas redistricting on steroids.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:50 PM
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6. self delet
Edited on Thu Aug-23-07 06:52 PM by FreakinDJ
n/t
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:57 PM
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7. As long as California remains as a whole a blue state, I know
I'm against splitting things up!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:58 PM
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8. While a wonderful idea, breaking up California's EC votes hurts Dems & helps the GOP
If you did the same to a big Republican state like Texas or North Carolina, it'd help us and hurt the Republicans. Since the law would have to be passed by the majority party in each of these states, you can expect this proposal for unilateral disenfranchisement to go exactly nowhere.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:42 PM
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9. It needs to be contingent on other states doing it too.
Edited on Thu Aug-23-07 07:43 PM by bemildred
If only California does it, California just screws itself out of its present electoral college clout, to the benefit of Republican candidates who now get nothing from us, and do nothing for us.
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