How do you answer somebody who thinks Iraq was responsible for 9/11?

[raccoon]

Two things I can come up with right off:

--15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis.

--Paul O'Neill, who was Treasury Sect. when Bush first took office, says in THE PRICE OF LOYALTY that the Bush gang was hot to invade Iraq right after Bush took office--long before 9/11.

Any others?

[mooseprime]

1. ask them what facts

they are basing their statements on. seems to me the burden of proof lies on them, not you.

[bryant69]

2. That's a good response

If they are a rush programmed follower they will bring up Czechoslovakia maybe - but at this point that's not very credible.

Bryant
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[VP505]

37. That was my

first thought. People that believe that are so full of the Kool Aid that you'll never convince them other wise. The only thing to do is point them in the right direction by asking for facts that support that position. Hopefully, when they start stuttering to come up with something they will snap.

[soothsayer]

3. You say, "Look, George, you dumb sonovabitch, I know you live in the WH

but you are SERIOUSLY out of touch"

[HughBeaumont]

4. And you know how they'll usually answer back?

"Doen't matter. They're all the same."

Then you end the conversation.

But really, that is a good start. Ask them how it logically makes sense to attack two nations that never did any harm to one American citizen in response to a terror attack carried out by citizens whose home country also happens to be our business/oil ally?

[raccoon]

6. Good question,

"Ask them how it logically makes sense to attack two nations that never did any harm to one American citizen in response to a terror attack carried out by citizens whose home country also happens to be our business/oil ally?"

[kenny blankenship]

36. No amount of answers or evidence or snappy comebacks can fill holes in a diseased brain

Prions, and the spongiform encephalopathy they cause, cannot be stopped.

[bunkerbuster1]

5. The PRESIDENT SAID SADDAM WASN'T INVOLVED!

Sheesh, if they can't take the word of their Dear Leader at face value...

[HereSince1628]

7. Why answer? It's like arguing the nonexistance of God with a theist

You just have to let them wake up some morning fully disenchanted.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

8. how about...

"You're a f*ckin moron if you believe that when all the real, verified evidence says otherwise."

It's what I told my boss last year. I've had to re-enforce the lesson a few times as new talking points have been spewed at him over the radio, but he gets it now. :)

[BOSSHOG]

9. Ask them to show you their diploma from the limbaugh Institute

of lemming lunacy.

Ask them how if feels to have someone else tell you what to think

Look up at the sun and ask them what direction it is going as it circles the earth.

Ask them why they hate the truth

tell them, how could that be, bush is responsible for 9-11, he let it happen so morons like you could lie about it 6 years later.

[evlbstrd]

10. Ask them what else they have up their ass.

That's where it comes from.

[Cass]

11. I agree with the poster above who said to have them provide documentation

of their claim. They made a statement of fact, let them back it up. In general, I usually don't bother trying to have political discussions with people who are that misinformed anymore. John Dean's book, Conservatives Without Conscience, made me realize that trying to reason with 29 percenters is like trying to talk to a wall.

[Bucky]

12. Are there really people out there so stupid they don't realize France was behind 9-11?

They are controlled by the evil nazicommies.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. Wow

They Are Running pro-Iraq war commercials on FAUX that shows the plane flying into the WTC..

[porphyrian]

14. Why am I talking to someone that stupid in the first place? - n/t

[KansDem]

15. "15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis"

A little off topic, but 2 of the hijackers carried passports from the UAE. Recently, Halliburton moved its headquarters to Dubai and the UAE was considered for taking over management of the USA's ports. Only this week it was announced that Dubai was investing in Las Vegas, Nevada.

So 17 of the 19 hijackers, who killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11, are from countries that (1)support terrorism; (2) had/will have considerable influence into the operation of the USA; (3)have ties to the Bush Family/Bush administration.

Yet, we invade Iraq and murder almost a million of its citizens.

How Bush and his ilk can get away with this is beyond me...

[flyarm]

19. tell them if they drink dunkin donuts coffee they are drinking coffee from the family of the

murderer who really did do 9/11...

Carlyle group bought dunkin donuts..and it is owned by the former * family partners the Bin Laden family, and tell them they are a very rich family from Saudi Arabia...and tell them the evening of 9/11 little lord pissy pants was smoking cigars with the Prince of saudi arabia..in the upstairs porch of the White house..that person Bandar bush...yep he was yucking it up with pissy pants on the unstairs porch of "their " white house ..and the Prince was drinking..and smoking cigars with * hie boy!

fly

[mooseprime]

16. that's the whole problem of these faith-based types

who have little by little taken over the government. facts? science? ha! i believe it's true, so it is. when you try to even begin to engage them in a fact based discussion they do the equivalent of putting their hands over their ears and saying la la la la la i can't hear you.

[Touchdown]

17. Knock on his head and say...

Hello McFly! Is anybody home? Think McFly!

[BlooInBloo]

18. "stupid lying dumbshit" is my standard.

[wtmusic]

20. "You're full of shit."

They've heard the facts, by now their ignoramuses by choice. No patience.

[MiniMe]

21. Play them the GWB clip where he says that there is no evidence that

Iraq and Saddam had anything to do with 9-11. Don't they believe their own President?

I'm figuring that if they are stupid enough to think that Saddam had anything to do with it, they would believe everything that *co has to say.

[lazyriver]

22. Simply, "Did you forget to take your meds today"?

[Hepburn]

24. IMO...

...that reply works...along with asking if they would like info on remedial reading classes!

[bdamomma]

25. that is a good one.

[annabanana]

23. Don't try to reason with a 'pub... It wastes your time and annoys the 'pub.

Tell them you won't have a battle of wits with an unarmed man (or woman). .

[IndianaJones]

26. tell them to go get their f'ing shinebox. nt.

[Bitwit1234]

27. I would say

"Is every body in your family as stupid as you are". Let go..because if they believe that, nothing you say will make any difference. Period.

[raccoon]

33. Trouble with that is, this person's a cousin of mine. :grin: nt

[RaleighNCDUer]

28. If iraq was responsible, why did we first go after Bin Laden?

And, BTW, Bin Laden hated Saddam and thought he was an ifidel and heretic, and Saddam was more afraid of Bin Laden than he was of the US.

[EnviroBat]

29. I don't answer them anymore.

I simply back-hand them across the mouth and exclaim as their groceries hit the parking lot, "Stop FUCKING UP MY COUNTRY"! Yeah, it's gotten to that point now. I can no longer reason with shit-for-brains. This should be our rebuttal to every right-wing talking point. Simply reply, "Shut the fuck up"! Don't even engage in debate with them anymore. They are too mentally vapid to get it. It's too late. All we can do now is dismiss them. "I'm sorry, I don't speak Hill-Billy". That's another I've used recently.

[WinkyDink]

30. Walk away sloooowly, without turning your back. You're dealing with a very disturbed person.

[SaveAmerica]

31. Do they look like this...

Some things you just have to ignore.

[Poiuyt]

32. I just say, "According to George Bush, there was no connection."

QUESTION: What did Iraqi have to do with that?
BUSH: What did Iraq have to do with what?

QUESTION: The attacks upon the World Trade Center.

BUSH: Nothing. . . . .Except for it’s part of — and nobody’s ever suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the attack. Iraq was a — Iraq — the lesson of September the 11th is: Take threats before they fully materialize,

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/08/21/bush-says-iraq-had-%E2%80%98nothing%E2%80%99-to-do-with-911/

[spanone]

34. explain that Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden are two different people

from two different countries, they had two different agendas......

shit, anybody dumb enough to buy that bullshit ain't gonna believe anything you say.

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. Stop watching FAUX NEWS and read a damn book once and awhile!

:grr: Anyone with half a brain knows Iraq had NOTHING to do with 911.

[warren pease]

38. Tell 'em what the emperor himself said:

On Sept. 17, 2003: "We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the 11 September attacks," Mr Bush told reporters as he met members of Congress on energy legislation." Which is easy enough to memorize and recite, just before slapping the shit out of them.

Full story here: http://tinyurl.com/9q2m9

And a related article here listing public statements by BushCo liars that the two were linked: http://tinyurl.com/on1q


Article on a Bush speech given on 9/11/06: <<<The president conceded some crucial ideological ground, formally disavowing the neo-conservative accusation that Saddam had played a role in the attacks on September 11 2001. But he was unapologetic about the decision to invade Iraq.

"I am often asked why we are in Iraq when Saddam Hussein was not responsible for the 9/11 attacks," Mr Bush said. "The answer is that the regime of Saddam Hussein was a clear threat. My administration, the Congress, and the United Nations saw the threat - and after 9/11, Saddam's regime posed a risk that the world could not afford to take.

"The world is safer because Saddam Hussein is no longer in power.">>>

Full story here: http://tinyurl.com/fsnjz


As FAIR notes, these admissions of blatant administration lying went almost unreported in the US media. Fox denied BushCo ever attempted any linkage, of course, the WaPo and Christian Science Monitor ran stories on the "disconnect" between the two versions of the story, CNN briefly mentioned the 9/17/03 statement, and everybody else did the usual deaf, dumb and blind routine. Shocking.


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[timtom]

39. I am afraid, my friend

that logic has no effect on these intellectual sluggards. Critical thinking takes effort. Why waste the energy when all they need do is to turn the TV?

[B Calm]

40. Doesn't matter what you say, they have their head up their ass

and can't hear you..