For one who is outside of America - Boy, are you guys in trouble.

[wake.up.america]

I am watching "The Religious Warrior Crusade" on CCNI. I am more afraid of the religious right in America than I am of the Islamic whacks. Common sense has sure how gone out the window with the followers of Bush. Tolerance love and compassion are foreign to the Christian right. Seems as if these guys are mentally disturbed.

[annabanana]

1. sigh. . . yeah, we know. . . . n/t

[YOY]

2. Oh, they're trying to spread it to Europe, Asia, and Africa

Don't you forget it. Ever meet an evangelical "missionary"? I have. Moreso in broke-ass Eastern Europe preying on the hopeless as they are so wont to do.

They've gained follower after follower from our hopeless folks...that's what they do. Prey on the weak when they are broken in times of hardship. Then "fix them" and when they happen to have children, they too must be raised to be "saved" as well.

On a humorous note, in a near-future William Gibson novel "Idoru" (I think), One character goes into a cheap motel and the clerk asks if he "has been accepted Jesus Christ as his personal savior."

The character replies bluntly "No, and I don't care to be."

The clerk smiles and says "Great, I hate those f***ers. My parents raised me with that bullshit. I've got a free room for you."

[WinkyDink]

19. Meet them? They're my in-laws! No joke.

[YOY]

24. One of our Eastern European friends was "saved" in a manner and moment that still sickens me

He hubby left her and she lost her job. Her parents were divorced and her mother had just died. One of her kids has downs-syndrome...her life was a mess and spiraling downwards. Friends tried to help her, but the missionary gave her the crutch that would carry her through...

We haven't talked to her for a few years...she's like a different person. Not her self anymore.

[no_hypocrisy]

3. Thanks for the reminder. I went five minutes without obsessing about that fact.

[Nostradammit]

49. Exactly.

It hovers like a cloud of doom over the clear-headed.

Surrounded by zombies who get their instructions every Sunday morning.

Something's gotta give.

[BlooInBloo]

4. They're all fucked up. And then they all bitch&moan like whiny ass titty babies...

.... when they're called on the evils they perpetrate, complaining about an illusory "persecution".

[NRaleighLiberal]

5. Yes! Watch Jesus Camp and you can see how they are cooked up.

The way that the key messages of religion are twisted, mixed up with personal profit, greed and pride and deployed on people through fear, for control, is horrifying.

[YOY]

8. The George Bush prop part was the scariest thing I've ever seen

They worshiped the prop like a god I swear. So much for "thou shall have no gods before me."

[KansDem]

6. Genau...

:(

[wake.up.america]

11. Mehr als ein bisserl traurig

Without looking, who is this?

[seemslikeadream]

21. mushrooms anyone?

[lonestarnot]

7. What in the hell is with the Southern Baptists? They are now Talibaptists.

[NRaleighLiberal]

9. Yep - we are surrounded by them in Raleigh. Their big problem -

hypocrisy. They don't abide by/follow that which they are trying to force down others' throats. There simply is NO religion in their religion. It is a sham.

[wake.up.america]

13. That's right - no religion in their "religion".

[lonestarnot]

27. Subserviant submissive dumbass women who put up with that bullshit. It's the slave labor children

that I feel sorry for.

[zabet]

51. Talibornagains n/t

[bdamomma]

10. too much religion can make a person stupid

and dangerous.

[wtmusic]

12. And too much smoking can make a person unhealthy

Just say no, altogether.

[BlueJazz]

14. Shit....I watched it also and from the film and much experience know...

...damn well these people are crazy and mean as a Loon mixed with a Pit Viper.

They (try to) fuck up everything they come in contact with...

[blues90]

15. They all need to go

They can find their own island somewhere far from all others and go find their hell and leave the rest of us out of it forever .

also these sick rich people with their tax breaks drooling over profits off the broken people while grabbing up foreclosed homes and property , savaging gouls . All to make a killing while so many other have lost everything , sick SOB's .

[bdamomma]

17. unless we find our own island!!

[blues90]

25. Either way is fine with me as long as it happens

Maybe we would be better off with the island .

[spanone]

16. of the three religious groups the wacko fundie christian republicans scare shit out of me.

[Bitwit1234]

18. Maybe bush is the re-incarnation of Cotton Mather

but then I also kind of lean toward the Marquis de Sade.

[NRaleighLiberal]

23. Too much credit, He is just the reincarnation of every schoolyard

bully, silverspooned, pampered and enabled by brain dead parents, ended up failure at everything they did but ascended anyway because no one ever beat the living shit out of him, that we all knew when we grew up. He thinks he is so special, but he is so common, and pathetic.

[B Calm]

20. Yes they are mentally disturbed, but they are being used

as tools by the people behind the curtain pulling the strings for a one world government.

[Robbien]

30. Sure they are being used, but that makes them no less dangerous

As the CNN series stated, they start indoctrinating these kids as early as ten years old. Most of these kids will carry their zeal for fighting in the Army of God for the rest of their lives making everyone else's lives miserable. Just the same as fundie jews, fundie mulims and all other fundie religious fanatics.

[wake.up.america]

22. Sheep being used. We all have the ability to create happiness if we would just listen to our heart.

All this hate and confusion because we don't take time to consider what is really important and that is love. Not money or power.

[hootinholler]

26. Ah, the talibornagain!

Please don't confuse them with the vast majority of christians who are not hellbent batshit crazy douchebags.

-Hoot

[lonestarnot]

28. I don't know what the "majority of 'christians' " think any more. I just do my own thang. Know

what I mean Vern?

[BreweryYardRat]

31. Amen.

They give the rest of us Christians a bad name, and they give the rest of us batshit crazy people a bad name.

Don't mix your craziness with your religion. It never works. ;)

[SammyWinstonJack]

52. Religion is in the hands of some crazy ass people

:crazy:

[coco77]

29. Now Scarborough is trying his best to downplay...

the fact that some of these people are rightwing nuts. Yesterday and today he tried to bring up the fact that Christan Amanpour is trying comparing the religious nuts on the other side.

[EFerrari]

32. We're ALL in trouble because they HAVE WMD!

:scared:

[Joanne98]

33. We know....

[warren pease]

34. And you're just now discovering this?

Around 1970, I was splitting a house with a kind of dorky but pleasant enough guy and his girlfriend. One weekend, they went up to the Sacramento delta area for bird-watching and, if they could find anybody to invite them along, a little boating and maybe fishing.

Anyway, while they were gone I had fixed a sink drain that had been backed up for months. Time, effort and bit of money. So they get home and start telling me how they ran into these great people and went to a born again festival and everything was just so very groovy and loving and blah, blah, blah.

I responded by telling them the sink was fixed. The guy replied, "See what the power of prayer can do."

I'll never forget that exchange, since it was my first encounter with the religiously insane. Thinks have retrograded considerably since then; now they're all armed and ready to die for the Church of the Tax-Deductible Bigoted JEEEEEEZuzzz.

I swear to christ I'm so sick of looking around at the store and assuming that at least three out of 10 people around me are fundie nut jobs.

Do you have this kind of lunacy in a position of influence where you live? If not, would you consider adopting my wife and me?


wp

[Tesla]

36. I can't wait for the rapture...

then we'll see.....hahaha

[HowHasItComeToThis]

35. THIS SHOULD BE THE ALL TIME MOST REC'D

Error: You've already recommended that thread.

CORPORATE AMERICA LOVES THIS OPIATE OF THE MASSES

[Arugula Latte]

37. It's funny. Mental illness dressed up as "religion" is somehow okay here.

Europe has largely shaken off the idiocy of religion, while here we suffer under the mass delusions of millions of people.

[tom_paine]

38. No question, the Bushies are following the Totalitarian Path

And oh yes, once again the great mass of people, as it was in the Middle Ages (which are coming back within 200 years at the outside, I believe), are trapped in between differing brands of fundamentalists, be they Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Bushie, or Nazi (those, too being cultish religious-type entities).

We are, all of us stuck between the Bushies/Christian Fundamentalists and al-Qaeda/Muslim Funadmanetalists.

Personally, I wish we could take 'em all and let them fight it out amongst themselves and leave regular people alone.

But that is wishing for pie in the sky. They need us as their beasts of burden and trigger fingers, and so they will always drag us with them. Plus they LOVE controlling us and stealing from us, so Bushies and their al-Qaeda pals will always use us and drag us withthem whenever they can.

[wake.up.america]

39. My feelings excatly. Stick these clowns on an island and may the craziest lunatic win.

[JCMach1]

40. The jihadis are the absolute radical fringe and are politically and socially ostracized here

So, yes I found the CNN report all the more scary on the Xtian Dominionists in the States...

In the US, they are embraced and welcomed into gov...

[Auggie]

41. Just how many nut cases are we talking about here?

[badgerpup]

42. Some quotes I likes...

History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the unknown without help. But, like dandruff, most people do have a religion and spend time and money on it and seem to derive considerable pleasure from fiddling with it.


One man’s theology is another man’s belly laugh.


God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent-it says so right here on the label. If you have a mind capable of believing all three of these divine attributes simultaneously, I have a wonderful bargain for you. No checks, please. Cash and in small bills.


The most preposterous notion that H. Sapiens has ever dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of His creatures, can be swayed by their prayers, and becomes petulant if He does not receive this flattery. Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all of history.


and this one especially...

The profession of shaman has many advantages. It offers high status with a safe livelihood free of work in the dreary, sweaty sense. In most societies it offers legal privileges and immunities not granted to other men. But it is hard to see how a man who has been given a mandate from on High to spread tidings of joy to all mankind can be seriously interested in taking up a collection to pay his salary; it causes one to suspect that the shaman is on the moral level of any other man. But it’s lovely work if you can stomach it.

All quotes are from The Notebooks of Lazarus Long by Robert A. Heinlein. :patriot:

[eppur_se_muova]

43. Finished reading "American Theocracy" a couple of weeks ago ... very discouraging.

It seems the "Southernization" of America is continuing apace. Not much encouragement for thinking people.

[KamaAina]

44. That "Battlecry" group scared the living daylights out of me

right at the end, the teenage group that bore a disturbing resemblance to the Hitler Youth, what with all the red flags, the occasional Heil Hitler salute, and of course, acres and acres of white people. The last is rather odd for a group based in East Texas. You'd expect to see at least a few black or brown faces, but no, nary a one. Oh, wait, there was this one woman roaming the corridors inside the stadium, sounding very much as though she was in need of immediate psychiatric help, who may possibly have been Asian.

Then again, the cult leaderpastor charges his charges $650 a month for the privilege of attending his, um, whatever it is (it did not appear to be an actual school, like with classes and stuff).

And there are enough of them to fill the same ballpark that Barry Bonds filled a couple of weeks ago. :scared:

[Festivito]

45. Money runs a Mil-Ind-CON-media-church complex.

That's Military-Industrial Complex with Eisenhower's CONgressional and our media and church added. And, the Internet is next.

We're ALL in trouble.

Geld u:ber alles.

[Karenina]

46. Love your acknowledgement of the Umlaut.

And to THINK clergy are being TRAINED by the gub'mint to CALM FOLKS with "scripture" to accept martial law. :eyes::freak::eyes:

HAL-LO!!! Anyone up at this hour? ;-)

[shance]

47. Extremism isn't dangerous until its allowed to flourish and is seen as legitimate.

Today, religious extremists, who are painted as moderates (particularly radical Christians and Zionists) are in governmental leadership positions with an extreme agenda, which is being hidden from public view and virtually blacked out by the corporate media.

That is what is most disturbing.

It's not the hand they are waving, its the hand behind the back that people need to watch.

[Javaman]

48. george* the profit says...

go forth, kick ass, take names and save their souls. And don't forget to shake them down!

That's how jesus whould do it!

:banghead:

[Mythsaje]

50. Marx said that religion was the "opiate of the masses."

It's no opiate now. That's sports. Now religion's the fucking PCP of the masses.

[The Vinyl Ripper]

55. I think actually Marx meant opiate ..

To mean pain killer as much as narcotic.

[rucky]

53. Wait until the Jesus Camp kids grow up. n/t

[bonito]

54. The Christian white wing

imo