Ted Nugent Threatens to Kill Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton During Vicious Onstage Rant

[CatWoman]

Renegade right-winger Ted Nugent recently went on a vicious onstage rant in which he threatened the lives of Democratic presidential candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Decked out in full-on camouflage hunting gear, Nugent wielded two machine guns while raging, “Obama, he’s a piece of shit. I told him to suck on my machine gun. Hey Hillary,” he continued. “You might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch.” Nugent summed up his eloquent speech by screaming “freedom!”

This isn’t the first time Nugent has been caught spewing hatred. Last January, the guitarist caused a scandal for Republican Texas governor Rick Perry when he wore a Confederate flag shirt and insulted immigrants at Perry’s inauguration event. In July, Nugent was quoted in a Wall Street Journal story blaming “stoned, dirty, stinky hippies” for “rising rates of divorce, high school drop-outs, drug use, abortion, sexual diseases and crime, not to mention the exponential expansion of government and taxes.”

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/08/24/ted-nugent-threatens-to-kill-barack-obama-and-hillary-clinton-during-vicious-onstage-rant/

[no_hypocrisy]

1. Sounds like Ted has a little cat scratch fever going on with all that

ranting.

[Patchuli]

118. I think that cat was rabid

Hopefully, he'll scare folks outta the GOP side with that batcrazy guano...

[InternalDialogue]

2. He's onstage anymore?

As a side note: What an insecure, misogynistic prick he is.

[cboy4]

134. I know! That's what I was going to say. Who actually pays

hard earned money to see someone as washed up as him?

Democrats watch talented bands like the Dixie Chicks.

Republicans watch 70 year old what's his name.

[Cooley Hurd]

3. He's SUCH a friggin' JETHRO!

...not to mention a HAS-BEEN.:thumbsdown:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

50. jephro.

one of the local suburbs had him in for the town's city daze last month. low turnout.

[rndmprsn]

4. what a has-been...

he sucked during his prime and sucks even more now...screw him.

[bryant69]

5. that's going a little far

Well - more than a little.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[DesEtoiles]

6. Guess Ted knows about being stoned, apparently

Probably also an expert at dirty and stinking.

[dolo amber]

19. Actually I think ol' Ted's always been in the "clean and sober" camp

He just liked diddling 13 yr olds. :hi:

[Scout]

23. "I think ol' Ted's always been in the "clean and sober" camp"

nope, he hasn't ... people in Michigan have known him and partied with him for a long time.

[dolo amber]

31. No? I thought I heard that somewhere

Probably from him on some VH-1 thing or something...he said he never drank or did drugs but had a thing for "young chicks...the younger the better."

Blech. :puke:

[tom_paine]

63. Yep, on the MTV Special "Daughters of Rock Stars"

(which may be different from the special you were thiking about)

Child Molestin' Ted's daughters (to his credit it did not sound like he molested THEM) even related a story of one child, particularly and heinously young, according to the duaghters, "she was out in the back yard playing baseketball with our little brother." and while they didn;t mention the age, I would infer from how they were speaking, that the child could have been no more that 14 and probably 12 or 13.

To their credit, Ted's daughters put their collective foot down, and saved that girls from molestation, as they tell the story. To Ted's credit, he didn't molest his daughters, and on this particular occasion, Ted did not molest the small child he had brought home, so innocent she was out in the driveway playing basketball innocently, unaware that, had Ted's daughters not stepped in, at he very least she would have been statutorily raped, had she resisted, it would have been straight-up rape.

Ted's response, with a smirk, "You know I'm a breeder, girls."

If anyone thinks I am lying or exaggerating, this special will likely run again someday.

Watch it.

[Ishoutandscream2]

75. Oh, dear God

What a piece of garbage. Sick, twisted, perverted scum bag. If he tried to do that to one of my daughters...well, he'd have some fire power, but there's not many persons who can get angrier than a daddy protecting his little girl.

[Warpy]

28. If you believe that, I've got a beachfront house in NM to sell you

Nobody gets that jacked up on stage without a little chemical help.

[Joe Fields]

87. Ted used to get higher than 3 kites. He's just trying to rewrite his history.

[Initech]

7. I think it's time someone tips off the Secret Service to the Nuge!

If you know what I mean! :evilgrin:

[swag]

8. These conservative intellectuals are really starting to bore me.

[vireo]

15. Hey, he used the word "exponential"

I'm impressed. :D

[The Stranger]

9. OBAMA IS UNDER SECRET SERVICE PROTECTION -- ARREST NUGENT NOW.

[MNDemNY]

42. As is Hillary.

[sandnsea]

10. Where's the YouTube

This is the kind of thing we need to spread all over the place. Let some of these wishy-washy "Independents" see the long term consequences of entertaining right wing ideology.

[CatWoman]

12. the video is at the link

[sandnsea]

33. can they be imbedded

Like the YouTube ones?

That was some freaky shit, and the crowd cheering, just wow. Women and minorities. And the first thing they do to a white man, is slander him as an "effete" "n***** lover". They are really just insecure bullies.

[spanone]

13. here it is

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=757_1187963465&p=1

[sandnsea]

34. Thanks

That was sickening. I wonder why he didn't go after John Edwards. Maybe he was afraid of Elizabeth! I say that in a good way.

[OzarkDem]

129. Boycott House of Blues

until they apologize and ban this jerk from playing at any of their venues.

Nugent's rant was at the Anaheim, CA House of Blues.

[goodgd_yall]

11. ewww

and he has an upcoming performance at a nearby Indian casino.

[wryter2000]

14. Ted who? n/t

n/t

[madrchsod]

16. good thing his mom is dead

so she can`t hear the shit coming out of his mouth. she`s kind a heroine in the chicago land musical scene during the 70`s and 80`s. she helped a lot of bands in the area get a break,mom figure,and a all around nice lady. the guys and gals who knew her raised money and had a statue made in her likeness...

maybe teddy is`t her son....

[Cha]

93. How sad..

poor thing that she bore something like that.

[alphafemale]

97. The best part of Ted ran down her leg. nt

[BurtWorm]

17. Set your cats loose on him, CatWoman

Maybe he'll develop a fatal case of cat scratch fever.

(Metaphorically speaking, of course.)

[CatWoman]

46. LOL

My cats wouldn't piss in his general direction :)

[mzmolly]

53. Heh.

Too bad really. ;)

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

18. WTF???

How much do you want bet the Dixie Chicks whiners spin this as "Well, he said it in our country, so it's okay....". Or don't say shit......

[pookieblue]

146. I was just thinking about that group when I heard about this

the ones who raised such a fuss about the dixie chicks, whoopie goldburg, and the others who had the nerve to say how they felt about Bush and the NeoCons. And even then, those on our side didn't threaten to kill anyone.

I remember when Jon Bon Jovi made a comment about against the war in Iraq and he pissed off several people in the crowd. (he was in dc at the time). But not once did he say that he wanted to kill Bush.

So, where is the outrage againt Ted? He actually threatened to kill someone. I really do think that free speech stops at talking about killing another person.

[slowry]

20. He also similarly threatened Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein, in the same breath n/t

[glitch]

24. Ted Nugent is threatened by everybody. His supporters think that's macho.

:rofl:

[girl gone mad]

59. So true...

whiney victims and spoiled blue-blood draft dodgers are the Republican's definition of real men.

[glitch]

72. Freaky isn't it? Scary thought: what if machismo is relative?

Perhaps compared to his fans Nugent really is macho.

[wordpix]

126. it's not funny when he's inciting his audience to violence against Dem candidates

The guy should be brought in for questioning---besides, I wonder how many illegal guns this asshole has in his home?

[ashling]

21. That's a terrorist threat if ever there was one

put him in Guatanamo - its ok, Ted. You'll get out when the Democrat's close it.

[sinkingfeeling]

22. Excuse me, but why isn't he being held and questioned by the FBI or SS? If any common person in this

country, regardless of age, ability, or sex, were to 'act' in a similar manner, they would be investigated.

[bananas]

66. Threatening political candidates is a serious crime

He should be charged and face trial - and he is a flight risk, his passport should be taken away.

[wordpix]

127. totally agree

[DinahMoeHum]

25. Mister "Kill It and Grill It" = worthless excuse for a human being.

Suck on THAT, Nuge. Otherwise, suck your own.

:grr:

[sarcasmo]

26. He makes me puke, gives Michigan a bad name.

Can we kick him out of our State?

[Cha]

95. No worries..every state and country

has their undesireables that don't qualify for human consumption.

Michigan is great..this zombiefuck can't touch it.

[susanna]

96. I heard somewhere that he did leave.

I am pretty sure he still owns land here, but I want to say he moved out of state. I'll have to see if I can find a reference.

[susanna]

99. Per my other post...

He did leave, not at all surprisingly, for Bush country:

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000742137

I'm not too sorry about that.

[sarcasmo]

122. He still owns to much land near Harrison I think.

[susanna]

124. He owns a bunch in the Manistee area too, or used to. n/t

[sarcasmo]

123. "At his Michigan house for the holidays"

He is only doing this to be Uber Patriotic for his Dictator.

[susanna]

125. Yeah, I know. But I'll take what I can get!

Be gone, Nuge. :-)

[Zookeeper]

140. Texas allows hunting behind SCHOOLS?!?

Nugent says his son Rocco is excelling in school and has done well in sports, and notes that the hunting in Crawford is great, too. "Right behind Rocco's school is game! It's a barbecue dream," he says.

:wtf:

[susanna]

158. Yeah.

These people are princes among men. Or something....

Something is my vote. :eyes:

[spanone]

27. ted has so little talent that he'd best brand machine guns for applause

America has become a nation where you can't criticized the president in public, but you can threaten to kill his opponents from an open stage...

[The Backlash Cometh]

29. It definitely came across like a "lynching" rally. Only using guns instead of a rope.

That has to be the most disgusting racist video I have seen in current times in America. And for him to yell, "Freedom," means that anything that isn't pro-white male, threatens him.

[coco77]

57. They have become embolden...

since the bush has stole the election, they think this country is really just for whites but they their candidates use all of the races to get elected, this is why they will have it in for Obama they also think that they should be in control of every country in the world.

[onethatcares]

30. didn't he have a thing for thirteen year old girls

that his daughter brought home as freinds? What happened to that?

[Joanne98]

58. Yes!

[Poiuyt]

32. So, what would happen to Nugent if he had threatened Bush in the same way?

And why is there a difference?

[sampsonblk]

39. I think the rules are pretty much the same

Obama and Clinton are protected by the Secret Service. Obama received protection earlier than usual, because he had received death threats already - just for signing up to run for president. Mrs Clinton, of course, has Secret Service protection for several reasons. She probably hasn't gone the the store alone since early 1992.

If any of the major candidates are threatened, someone should go to jail.

Upon further review, I don't think Nugent actually threatened them. What he said was rotten, but well within the bounds of free speech, unless he said more than what I heard and saw.

[MNDemNY]

48. Hillary has been under it since 1990

[sampsonblk]

77. 1990? Why?

[MNDemNY]

78. sorry. 1992

[PA Democrat]

35. Earlier this week Freepers were wetting their pants over a story about Nugent running for governor

One of them actually wanted him to run for president. Oh, God, would that be a train wreck of a campaign.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1883911/posts

[IowaGuy]

89. well, in a real twisted non-civic minded context...

that would be horribly, sickeningly entertaining

[anniebelle]

36. A low life has been. Who cares what he says? n/t

[Cheap_Trick]

44. has been?

more like a never was... being a degenerate cowardly smelly low life hillbilly is all he's managed to accomplish in his miserable existence

[wordpix]

128. because he's threateneing Dem pres candidates in front of a large audience!

Geez, you think that's just fine?

[UTUSN]

37. Kick for Sothern Poverty Law Center, can you hear this? n/t

[Beausoleil]

38. He's pretty "dirty, stinky" himself

"In a July 15, 1990, Detroit Free Press interview, Nugent crowed about how he managed to dodge the draft. He claims that 30 days before his draft board physical, he disavowed personal hygiene. The last ten days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and with a week to go until the physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether. When the big day came, he had been living in excrement-caked and urine-stained pants."

http://campusprogress.org/tools/253/?type=printer

What an excellent right-wing role model!

[Puregonzo1188]

43. But I'm pretty sure on VH1's Behind the Music 1972 he said that if

they had sent him to Viet Nam we would of "won" the war in a week.:puke: That's why his draft dodging bit has always disgusted me the most.

[Beausoleil]

60. In the same "Free Press" interview, he said;

“But if I would have gone over there, I’d have been killed, or I’d have killed all the Hippies in the foxholes. I would have killed everybody.”

I think he would have started with himself. Or had another reason to fill his pants.

[Cha]

98. Oh Fuck..teddy nutless sounds

like one of those buSHIT hypocrits he's always trying to build up with his.. killing on rampage spew.

[G_j]

113. that must have made him real popular with Viet Nam Vets,

:eyes:

[rateyes]

40. Hey, Ted...you sorry sack of

shit. Go suck your own machine gun, and don't forget to push the button that turns it on.

[JVS]

41. Are we to take this as an endorsement of John Edwards?

:sarcasm: ;-)

[Critters2]

136. LOL!!!

Now that you mention it, it could be taken that way.

Ted Nugent endorses Edwards. Who knew? :rofl:

[wildbilln864]

45. Piss on Nugent!

He's a P.O.S. IMHO!
He should be arrested for inciting violence! :grr:

[Joanne98]

47. The "freedom" to molest little girls. CALLING COURTNEY LOVE!

http://ronmwangaguhunga.blogspot.com/2004/03/courtneys-underage-ted-nugent-sex.html
Courtney's Underage Ted Nugent Sex Allegation

Another day Courtney Love bombshell, but this one is particularly disturbing, so I'll keep the snark to a minimum. One wonders if illegal underage sex is what Nugent means by quality of life upgrade that the Republican Party represents. On the Howard Stern Show today, Courtney Love admitted, after heavy questioning, to allegedly having had oral sex with Republican Ted Nugent at the age of twelve. This is an impossibly horrible revelation -- is there a statute of limitations for this sort of thing? -- and explains quite a bit about Courtney Love's disfunctional relationship to the rock and roll lifestyle.

At the Republican convention several years back, Nugent gushed to ABC News, via a chat:

"I was very proud to assist, with our Ted Nugent United Sportsmen of America Texas members, to send Ann Richards on her terminal nacho date with Cuomo and help elect a real American as governor of the great state of Texas. George W. Is my American Blood Brother."

Nugent runs the Ted Nugent Camp for Kids, which, according to their website:

"Following Fred's direction on their last hunt together, Ted created this incredibly successful Kamp for children to learn about nature and man together. A 100% volunteer 501C3 non-profit corporation. Ted Nugent Kamp for Kids is operated by qualified families and individuals who deeply care about children and their futures. Every child is treated with love, affection and spiritual guidance by our dedicated volunteers. Lessons in resource stewardship, individual accountability, the Ten Commandments, the Golden Rule, Hunter Safety and law, International Bow Education (IBEP ) and basic lesson in life are driven home in an open honest ,caring setting in the wild. Two weekends each summer for kids 9-15 will touch will touch them deeply for up-grade. True North."

Finally, In a Salon interview in 2002, "(Nugent) names a wild boar after Janet Reno ('the only thing missing was the purple dress and he-man haircut'), and describes the same boar as emitting a 'Courtney Love-like squeal.'"

No doubt the very folks Page Six and/or another entertainment outlet will be all over this tomorrow. We hope they can get Nugent to explain himself so we can get to the bottom of Love's serious allegations and whether they have a basis in fact.

I'm sure that the evangelical former governor and current President would be pleased at the relation. Courtney Love called Howard Stern on his cell phone at around 8 am.

"She thinks she can just pick up her phone (and call me) and we'll be doing my radio show," said the amused Stern.

Apparently, Courtney has some trouble distinguishing between real life and the public persona, according to Howard's sidekick.

"He knows how to be Howard Stern when he's off the air," snapped Robin Quivers, curtly.

As the morning conversation continued, Stern asked Love, "so what's going to happen to you?"

"I'm gonna have to retire," replied Courtney, tongue in cheek.

On injured Daily News photographer Dara Kushner, Love was equally snarky, "her nose was grazed, but let's go out in an ambulance anyway."

And Love didn't mince words when it came to backing Howard on his FCC problems.

"Clear Channel can eat me -- give me some (props) for slamming Clear Channel for you."

"... That's very brave," replied Stern.

The two bantered about an upcoming Love appearance on Jay Leno. in which she hopes to come off as normal to America.

"Leno is Letterman Lite," attacked Stern, who has been feuding with the former Doritos pitchman since The Tonight Show swiped Stuttering John Melendez.

Finally, when Stern asked about the homeless man who suckled at her breast, she explained, "we were mobbed at a Wendy's -- I don't remember, he grabbed my body." Then, "how about I punch him and go to jail?"

Then when asked what would happen in her custody battle as a result of the offending picture, Courtney snapped, "don't you go near Francis (Bean), she's fine."

At "press" time, the two were still chatting it up; she had grabbed a cab from her loft came to the studio.
http://ronmwangaguhunga.blogspot.com/2004/03/courtneys-underage-ted-nugent-sex.html

[CatWoman]

49. Jesus Christ on a pogo stick!!!

IS THIS TRUE??????

How Nugent got out of the Vietnam draft:

He claims that 30 days before his draft board physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days, he ingested nothing but Vienna sausages and Pepsi; and a week before his physical, he stopped using bathrooms altogether, virtually living inside pants caked with his own excrement, stained by his urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment, he says. “… but if I would have gone over there, I’d have been killed, or I’d have killed, or I’d killed all the hippies in the foxholes…I would have killed everybody.” - Detroit Free Press Magazine , July 15, 1990

http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/luckovich/entries/2007/08/23/on_the_verge.html#comment-1507347

[spanone]

70. Incitement to murder...there must be a crime here...you can't yell fire in a theatre but you can

suggest KILLING a presidential candidate before thousands of people??????

[tkmorris]

51. Way to go Ted!! MORE!!!

Seriously, this guy is the best thing for Democrats in long time. I hope the GOP hires him as their official spokesperson.

[mitchum]

52. Nugent gives Fender Twins and human beings a bad name

[Wiley50]

115. "Cheap Spring Reverb, Duh Duh Duh.. Cheap Spring Reverb Duh Duh Duh Duh" n/t

[JerseygirlCT]

54. Poor thing. He's a piss-poor excuse for an artist, and this is

the only way he can get attention now.

[BlueStater]

62. He's a piss-poor excuse for a human being n/t

[JerseygirlCT]

83. That he is. nt

[mzmolly]

55. Hilary and Obama would turn out the racist/misogynist vote in droves,

Unfortunately.

I went to a Nugent concert as a teen, before I knew what he was about. I ended up leaving early, not only because he sucked, but because his "deliverance" like mentality was so apparent.

[GoneOffShore]

56. Ted, you just sit back in your chair.

We'll plug it in.

[Chulanowa]

61. What are the symptoms of Lyme disease again?

I figure beast-man there is no stranger to bodily parasites.

[judaspriestess]

64. its pretty obvious ole teddi sprinkles gun powder on his

cereal every morning while dressed in his attire made in china.

[Bluebear]

65. “You might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch.”

Well, isn't that poetic. :eyes:

[sampsonblk]

80. I actually thought it was funny

If he were making a joke, it would have been a huge laugh. But he was serious, angry and (apparently) drunk. That's different.

[Dora]

117. If he were making a joke, it would still not be funny.

I don't understand how it could be funny. In any context.

[sampsonblk]

120. Then maybe you ought to loosen up

Imagine if Stephen Colbert had said it, in a skit or something. Or maybe Andrew Dice Clay. Or Eddie Murphy, making fun of rednecks. Then it would have been funny.

The problem is that this guy wasn't joking, and he had a captive audience full of idiots who thought the same way. Problem.

[Vinca]

67. And the Secret Service is where, exactly??

People get a knock on the door for much less than that.

[OnionPatch]

68. What a fraud! If he hates "hippies" so much, why

does/did he emulate their hair, clothing, dress and rock n' roll?

These ass-wipe right-wingers who get rich impersonating rock n' rollers and then attack the supporters of the same, are frauds and hypocrites.

Hey Ted, maybe you ought to cut your hair and take up the banjo. At least then you wouldn't be an obvious phony.

[nini]

69. has the secret service visited him yet?

They sure should. what a waste of protoplasm.

[theNotoriousP.I.G.]

71. his diaper must have been full

his specialty is spewing shit.

[Rodanthe]

73. I wonder if I can get tickets to his latest concert.

Okay, not really. I posted on another site which was supposed to be non-political, but these stupid gun nuts kept singing the praises of Nugent - it made me throw up in my mouth a little. Have you ever wnated to bitch slap someone just for having the audacity to breathe the same air as you? That's how I feel about Nugent and his fans.

[dysfunctional press]

74. he NEVER "threatened" them...

he just made a bunch of stupid comments, while waving his guns around.

[spanone]

76. Imagine if he was of the Middle East persuasion?

[dysfunctional press]

105. okay...

he STILL didn't "threaten" them.

[NYC Liberal]

111. Oh my, yes can you IMAGINE what would happen if some

Arab man donned camouflage and waved a couple of machine guns around while telling George Bush "suck on my machine gun"?

That'd earn him a nice one-way ticket to Guantanamo.

[Critters2]

137. Telling someone to suck on a machine gun isn't a threat?

Hmm...I think we're going to have to agree to disagree.

[dysfunctional press]

159. not unless the person is standing (or kneeling) in front of them...

otherwise- it's just so much inane blather.

[DutchLiberal]

79. Is he reported to the SS yet? Is he arrested yet? If not: why not?

[libnnc]

81. So a freak with two...two machine guns threatens two presidential

candidates in public (one a sitting senator and the spouse of a former president) --

and said freak-o nutjob is still walking the streets free?

Why isn't this freak in handcuffs already?

[wordpix]

130. isn't brandishing machine guns in a public place & threatening to kill pres candidates a violation

of law? If not, it should be :puke:

[Darth_Kitten]

82. Isn't this brainless piece of garbage a child molestor?

n/t

[ovidsen]

84. At the very least, he's a blatant hypocryte

Who knows how many bucks Nugent's made selling records and playing concerts to brain-damaged "stoners" who thinki his guitar playing is cool. And to be honest, he's not half bad. His playing, I mean... but his Atilla right wing politics have been showcased by him for years, from his happy deer hunting trips to his contempt for anyone who takes anything stronger than coffee to his trance-like support of the Nixon, John Towers, and George Jr. school of "screw the poor" politics and his rabid support of the Iraq war.

I have never bought a Nugent record and never will.

BTW - I'm not a lawyer, but isn't threatening to kill someone a crime in some states?

[CatWoman]

85. Hey Buddy!!!

:hi:

I'm holding my breath for the wingnut blogs to pick it up :)

[NYC Liberal]

86. ILLEGAL AND HERE'S THE LAW:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000879----000-.html

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully threatens to kill, kidnap, or inflict bodily harm upon—
(1) a former President or a member of the immediate family of a former President;
(2) a member of the immediate family of the President, the President-elect, the Vice President, or the Vice President-elect;
(3) a major candidate for the office of President or Vice President, or a member of the immediate family of such candidate; or
(4) a person protected by the Secret Service under section 3056 (a)(6);

shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.

(b) As used in this section—
(1) the term “immediate family” means—
(A) with respect to subsection (a)(1) of this section, the wife of a former President during his lifetime, the widow of a former President until her death or remarriage, and minor children of a former President until they reach sixteen years of age; and
(B) with respect to subsection (a)(2) and (a)(3) of this section, a person to whom the President, President-elect, Vice President, Vice President-elect, or major candidate for the office of President or Vice President—
(i) is related by blood, marriage, or adoption; or
(ii) stands in loco parentis;
(2) the term “major candidate for the office of President or Vice President” means a candidate referred to in subsection (a)(7) of section 3056 of this title; and
(3) the terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” have the meanings given those terms in section 871 (b) of this title.

[SeattleGirl]

91. That seems pretty clear to me.

They need to haul his ass away to jail.

[wordpix]

131. thanks, I knew this had to be illegal---I think brandishing machine guns in public is, too

[krispos42]

144. I don't think it was in public

In some states you can carry firearms openly in public, but I doubt California is one of them. However, House of Blues is private property, so I don't think that applies.

However....

California has a ban on so-called 'assault weapons', and the semi-automatic AR-15 rifles (with protruding pistol grips, the horror, the horror) certainly qualify. He probably brought those from his home state for the performance, so I don't know if Califoria can nail him with having them or not, but it would be worth looking in to.

[stimbox]

153. Here's a pdf of CA gun laws.

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/Cfl2007.pdf

[krispos42]

157. Gawd, I hate California's gun laws

Did you know that there are 113,964 words in California's gun laws? And that was in 2005!

A person may not possess or transport an assault weapon or .50 BMG rifle, as defined, unless the weapon has been registered as an assault weapon or .50 BMG rifle with the Department of Justice, or the person has obtained a permit for that weapon from the Department. (Penal Code §§ 12276,
12280, 12285, 12286.)

A lawfully possessed assault weapon or .50 BMG rifle may be transported for any lawful purpose
if it is unloaded and either securely locked in the trunk of a vehicle or in a locked container carried inside the vehicle other than the utility or glove compartment. (Penal Code §§ 12280(m),
12285(c)(7), 12026.1.)

The NRA's pamphlet on the matter is basically a synapsis of it:

http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/CASL.pdf

There does not seem to be an except for people visiting with an 'assault weapon', which would mean that if Nugent brought those rifles from out-of-state, he's in trouble.

Maybe he can get somebody local to claim the guns were Californian, I don't know.

I'll post the question in the Gungeon and see if anybody knows.

[OzarkDem]

133. Why didn't House of Blues do something?

It seems they could have called the police, given him a warning or something.

They seem to be silent on the matter.

[lynne]

141. HUH? I didn't hear any threat and I listened twice -

- and I'm NO fan of Ted's, BTW. He said to "suck on these" and he said to "ride this" but that's the same as saying "bite my ass" or "suck my ****". It implies no active threat and the persons the remark was directed to would have to take action themselves by sucking or riding to achieve what Ted was spouting off about.

He's rude - He's crude - He's gross and out-of-control. But, he didn't make any threats to anyone. Freedom of Speech - sometimes we don't like it but Thank God we've got it.

[Joe Fields]

88. I'd like to see a bullet take a journey to the center of his mind...

[minnesota_liberal]

143. He does us more good alive and spewing

Still, "The Nuge" should keep in mind that Neanderthal neo-fascists such as himself aren't the only ones who can own guns.

[Nostradammit]

90. He wrote an "essay" on his website once that was

a thinly disguised manual on how to take kids camping and molest them.

Every nuanced word was all about what you do with the children once you get them "out in the woods".

The upper echelon of the republican party is a child-abuse ring, I am certain.


Dear Lord, please rid us of such people.

[Cha]

92. Sounds like little teddy nutzoid's

inner homicidal, maniacal, belongs in a dungeon-breath, is coming to the fore.

he, obviously, wants to be kept on a leash so he will do no harm.

nutzoid and coulter should hookup at one of their kkk meetings.. she can lead him around on that leash.

[trashcanistanista]

94. Does this not fall under the category

of terrorism? Lock him up! Scumbag.

[Maestro]

100. Ted again, uh?

He's such a racist nut-case. He has been banned from performing in Houston for making racist comments against Hispanics and now this. Let me be clear about this. Put.His.Sorry.Ass.In.Jail!

[cureautismnow]

103. The "Hey, Vern Guy" is back from the dead!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

101. He Can't Carry Clapton's Hendrix's And Jeff Beck's Guitar Picks For Starters

eom

[The Wizard]

102. When entertainer's go in the tank

they support repubes. Look at country and western comic Dennis Miller. Ted really needs professional help or a product from Fleet.

[Aviation Pro]

104. Here's how the yellow bellied coward got out of military service....

ON MILITARY SERVICE

He claims that 30 days before his draft board physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days, he ingested nothing but Vienna sausages and Pepsi; and a week before his physical, he stopped using bathrooms altogether, virtually living inside pants caked with his own excrement, stained by his urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment, he says. "... but if I would have gone over there, I'd have been killed, or I'd have killed, or I'd killed all the hippies in the foxholes...I would have killed everybody." - Detroit Free Press Magazine , July 15, 1990

Hey, Sissyheart, bet you'd curl up in a fetal ball if you had to go mano-a-mano with a real soldier.

[Forrest Greene]

106. I'm Going To Write An Angry Letter

...to Tiger Beat.

[tofurkey]

107. Did he run out of deer?

It's a well established fact that those who have little compassion for non-humans eventually move on to humans. It was inevitable.

[begin_within]

108. Doesn't he eat raw meat?

I thought I read that somewhere. I did see him in concert in Portland, Oregon in 1982. Absolutely the worst concert I have ever been to. The worst. I only went because my roommate got 2 free tickets to it. I still felt like I had gotten ripped off. Sammy Hagar was the opening act and he was only marginally better.

[The Count]

109. Dang hippies, running the government these days - I knew they were no good!

Good ol' ted, always getting it right!

[Pushed To The Left]

110. If he had made those remarks about Bush, he might be in Guantanamo right now.

Amazing hypocrisy in this country. The Dixie Chicks make a joke about being from the same state as George W. Bush and they get their lives threatened and their careers get hurt. This moron talks about KILLING 2 presidential candidates and somehow I don't think he will go through even half the crap that the Dixie Chicks went through.

[Hoof Hearted]

112. Could this asshole have syphilis?

:shrug:

He seems like the type that would rather die in denial than admit it or accept treatment.

Just one possibility.

[idgiehkt]

114. these types only get crazier as they get older

no surprise there.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

116. Hey, at least he didn't say he was ashamed of them:

That was way worse.

:sarcasm:

[frogcycle]

119. and the Dixie Chicks got knocked off the air

well, they are back, and in fine fettle, but for a while...

how come the dregs of society run society?

[spindoctor]

121. Let's schedule a Ted Nugent CD burning

or let's not and say we did.

A washed out rocker turns out to be a crazy motherfucker. Oh, the horror!

[wordpix]

132. does anyone have any of his terrible "music?" I don't

[fightindonkey]

135. He Deserves To Be Arrested!

[MasonJar]

138. Why hasn't he been arrested? That kind of threat should not go

unpunished.

[stimbox]

139. Assault weapons in CA?

WTF was he doing brandishing assault weapons in CA?
Didn't he violate CA law by bringing those with him across our border?
Threatening politicians?
He's just racking up criminal charges.

[krispos42]

145. I just posted that same question upstream. Maybe Slackmaster can help

He's pro-gun and lives in San Diego.

Nugent probably brought them from his home state to California EXPRESSSLY because they give people like Feinstein a fit. In California, I believe, it is no longer legal to buy them new, nor sell them to anybody else in the state. And they have to be registered, the registry of which closed some years ago.

But I don't know if California law prohibits visitors to the state from bringing them in.

[stimbox]

147. I wonder if it is?

But I don't know if California law prohibits visitors to the state from bringing them in.

It stands to reason that it would be illegal to bring them in the state.

[krispos42]

149. It is if, say, Nugent was trying to move to California

He could not register those two guns he had on stage, and without registration he could not legally own them.

But most states have a clause allowing vistors to bring them in. For, example, shooting competitions, hunting trips, or being in transit while on a journey.

I just can't say. But it's worth looking in to. If it's a felony, he might have his right to own firearms removed completely!

[stimbox]

150. Ca laws from AG's site

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/travel.php

Traveling with Firearms in California

HANDGUNS

California Penal Code section 12025 does not prevent a citizen of the United States over 18 years of age who is not lawfully prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, from transporting by motor vehicle any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person provided the firearm is unloaded and stored in a locked container.

The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.

SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES

Nonconcealable firearms (rifles and shotguns) are not generally covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 12025 and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container. However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded while they are being transported. A rifle or shotgun that is defined as an assault weapon pursuant to Penal Code 12276 or 12276.1 must be transported in accordance with Penal Code section 12026.1.

REGISTERED ASSAULT WEAPONS

California Penal Code section 12285(c)(7) requires that registered assault weapons may be transported only between specified locations and must be unloaded and in a locked container when transported.

The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.

[stimbox]

151. I wonder if he has a Entertainment Firearms Permit?????

Entertainment Firearms Permit

Senate Bill 231 (Statutes 2004, Chapter 606) establishes the Entertainment Firearms Permit (EFP). Subdivision (s) of Penal Code section 12078, as amended, authorizes EFP holders to possess firearms for use as props in motion picture, television, video, theatrical, or other entertainment productions. The EFP is recognized by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) as an Alternate Brady Permit. Consequently, EFP holders are exempt from the federal National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) check requirements for loans of unloaded firearms for use solely as props in a motion picture, television, video, theatrical, or other entertainment production or event. Loans of unloaded firearms from California firearms dealers licensed pursuant to Penal Code section 12071 to EFP holders for entertainment purposes are also exempt from the Dealer Record of Sale (DROS) requirements.

Penal Code section 12078 (s) (2), as amended, provides the following statutory exemptions to a Federal Firearms Licensee who loans an unloaded firearm for use solely as a prop in a motion picture, television, video, theatrical, or other entertainment production or event to a person who possesses a valid EFP issued pursuant to Section 12081:

The private party dealer record of sale (DROS) filing requirement of subdivision (d) of Penal Code section 12072.

The requirements of subdivision (f) of Penal Code section 12072 mandating the transfer of a firearm to a Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) holder in this state not occur unless the FFL first provides proof of California firearms dealership licensure pursuant to Penal Code section 12071 or proof of exemption from California firearms dealership licensure requirements.

The Penal Code section 12801 requirement that no person may loan any handgun to a person who does not possess a valid Handgun Safety Certificate.
Penal Code section 12078 (s) (2), as amended, also provides the following statutory exemptions to a California firearms dealer licensed pursuant to Penal Code section 12071 who loans an unloaded firearm for use solely as a prop in a motion picture, television, video, theatrical, or other entertainment production or event to a person who possesses a valid EFP issued pursuant to Section 12081:


The firearms transfer requirements of subdivision (d) of Penal Code section 12071.

The private party transfer requirements or subdivision (c) of Penal Code section 12072.

The requirements of subdivision (f) of Penal Code section 12072 mandating the transfer of a firearm to a Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) holder in this state not occur unless the FFL first provides proof of California firearms dealership licensure pursuant to Penal Code section 12071 or proof of exemption from California firearms dealership licensure requirements.

The Penal Code section 12801 requirement that no person may loan any handgun to a person who does not possess a valid Handgun Safety Certificate.

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/epp.php

[stimbox]

152. Dangerous Weapons Control Laws

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/

12200 thru 12251 Machine Guns
ARTICLE 2. UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF MACHINE GUNS

12220. (a) Any person, firm or corporation who within this state possesses or knowingly transports a machinegun, except as authorized by this chapter, is guilty of a public offense and upon conviction thereof shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison, or by a fine not to exceed ten thousand dollars ($10,000), or by both such fine and imprisonment.

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12200.php

12275 thru 12290 Assault Weapons
ARTICLE 2. UNLAWFUL ACTIVITIES

12280. (a)(1) Any person who, within this state, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, distributes, transports, or imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives or lends any assault weapon or any .50 BMG rifle, except as provided by this chapter, is guilty of a felony, and upon conviction shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for four, six, or eight years.

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12275.php

[undeterred]

142. In college I worked as an usher at concerts- he has the foulest mouth

I've ever heard.

[MetaTrope]

148. Well, at least he didn't suggest praying to Jesus to smite them

THAT would have gotten him in shackles.

[Warren DeMontague]

154. At which point, all twelve people in the audience went wild with applause. nt

[Zenlitened]

155. South Dakota State Fair 9/2. Colorado State Fair 9/3.

http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/nugent_ted/tours.jhtml

Colorado appearance brought to us by the good folks at Comcast:
http://www.coloradostatefair.com/index.php?page=comcast-entertainment-series

Comcast contact info: http://www.comcast.com/corporate/about/pressroom/pressandanalystcontacts/pressandanalystcontacts.html


The South Dakota appearance takes place on the fair's 'Progressive Insurance Day':
http://www.sdstatefair.com/fairschedule/full%20schedule_new.pdf

Progressive Insurance contact info: https://www.progressive.com/contact/contactus.asp

:grr:

[Sewsojm]

156. Shouldn't this Prick be charged as a Terrorist?

[Madspirit]

160. Why Do Right-Wingers Get Away With This Kind of Shit?

Nugent threatening people, Coulter suggesting that someone poison the FEW liberal-ish Supreme Court Justices....

How/why do they get away with this? I don't get it. I mean I know the Powers That Be are conservative but still, this stuff is straight-up illegal, isn't it?

Lee

[wordpix]

161. repukes still hold reins, that's why. Hopefully, not for long