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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 04:50 PM
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Wolfie just said NFL has suspended Vick "indefinitely"
whatever that means...
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 04:52 PM
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1. It means Vick, after serving his time, will be a hero once again...
...because, in the world of US professional sports, $$$>humanity.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 04:54 PM
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2. Vick is merely the latest Scary Black Man that white America must demonize.
Move over Barry. You've got company.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 04:55 PM
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3. Yeah, it has nothing to do with dog fighting and killing dogs
:eyes:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 04:56 PM
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4. You're kidding...
...PLEASE tell me you're kidding!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 04:58 PM
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5. Being black does not excuse his crimes
And he had all of the lawyers that a rich white man would have.

He's guilty.

Sincerely,

The REAL Blue Guy!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 04:59 PM
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6. if Vick were white the outrage would be equal, this isn't about race.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:16 PM
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19. white and famous
It's his fame that is getting him the press, old Floyd Boudreaux is probably gonna die in jail if he gets convicted of the 40 something counts against him for dog-fighting and nobody even knows about him cause all he's ever done is raise game dogs.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:01 PM
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7. That's silly. DU has CONSISTENTLY been hard on ALL dog fight people....
... since time immemorial.

Not.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:03 PM
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9. Well it's not a subject that came up alot
but I've always been against it.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:10 PM
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13. It's been going on for like 100 years in the hick parts of the country...
... Good to see the outrage NOW though, and with this particular example.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:01 PM
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8. Oh please.
The guy abused animals. It has NOTHING to do with his skin color.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:08 PM
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12. That boat won't float.. If his name had been Robert E Lee, XIV
Edited on Fri Aug-24-07 05:08 PM by SoCalDem
or Whitey McWonderbread he would get the same treatment from me.

Aminal cruelty is what it is..no matter the color or culture , or lack of culture the perpertator happens to be.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:17 PM
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20. yes because God knows all African Americans wholly support him
this is clearly divided straight down racial lines.
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:19 PM
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22. He's scary to me, but race has nothin' to do with it.
Edited on Fri Aug-24-07 05:21 PM by Akoto
A guy who can still sleep at night after electrocuting/hanging/stomping dogs to death for not mutilating other dogs well enough? Yeah, that person is scary to me.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:39 PM
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25. I think we can find better examples of black men victimized than Vick
who pretty obviously is not a good guy.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:40 PM
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26. Yeah, that's it exactly.
:eyes:
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:45 PM
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27. Yeah, it has nothing to do with him being a sadistic sociopathic son of a demon...
What a stupid-assed thing to say. I wouldn't care if he was green with polka dots. Asshole demon fucking lowlife miscreant sadistic sociopathic psychopathic cruel inhuman freaking freak asshole.

You can pretend all the god damned day long that this has to do with race but if you do, you're a disingenuous insincere shallow moral relativist and miscreant...YOURSELF.

Lee
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:50 PM
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29. I thought it was the torturing and killing of animals for "sport"
Who knew??

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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:04 PM
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10. Yet another reinforcer for my total hatred of football.
:mad:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:05 PM
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11. What would one have to do to get FIRED?
:shrug:
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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:10 PM
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15. He would have to plead guilty to gambling on the fights n/t
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:38 PM
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24. I like the sound of this though:

And what's worse for Vick is that the D.A. for Surry County in Virginia has finally realized he ought to prosecute Vick for being involved in dogfighting in Surry County. He has announced that he will submit the case to a Virginia state grand jury in September. Vick should keep in mind that dogfighting and animal cruelty are felonies in Virginia and animal cruelty charges carry a penalty of up to five years in prison for each dog killed.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7140060
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:10 PM
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14. Part of Goodell's statement:
"Your admitted conduct was not only illegal, but also cruel and reprehensible. Your team, the NFL, and NFL fans have all been hurt by your actions."

"Your plea agreement and the plea agreements of your co-defendants also demonstrate your significant involvement in illegal gambling. Even if you personally did not place bets, as you contend, your actions in funding the betting and your association with illegal gambling both violate the terms of your NFL Player Contract and expose you to corrupting influences in derogation of one of the most fundamental responsibilities of an NFL player."

"You have engaged in conduct detrimental to the welfare of the NFL and have violated the league's Personal Conduct Policy."

"I will review the status of your suspension following the conclusion of the legal proceedings. As part of that review, I will take into account a number of factors, including the resolution of any other charges that may be brought against you, whether in Surry County, Virginia, or other jurisdictions, your conduct going forward, the specifics of the sentence imposed by Judge Hudson and any related findings he might make, and the extent to which you are truthful and cooperative with law enforcement and league staff who are investigating these matters."

"I have advised the Falcons that, with my decision today, they are no longer prohibited from acting and are now free to assert any claims or remedies available to them under the Collective Bargaining Agreement or your NFL Player Contract."
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:12 PM
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16. So now the Falcons can go after his signing bonus?
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:14 PM
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17. One would think so, from the wording
:D
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:14 PM
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18. Goodell can fuck himself - they want these guys to act like animals on Sunday, then
Edited on Fri Aug-24-07 05:15 PM by BlueManDude
react with shock and horror when they act like animals the rest of the week. The only thing he cares about is the NFL's bottom line.

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 06:11 PM
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32. THAT'S a ridiculous statement! ALL athletes are constantly reminded
to "KEEP IT ON THE FIELD!" Coaches at every level of sports warn aganst personal violence is wrong and unacceptable behavior.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:18 PM
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21. *sighs* Oh well. That's the way the doggie bites.
Oops, I'm sorry. I meant to say "That's the way the cookie crumbles."

I wonder if Vick gave his pups treats from you-know-where...
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:19 PM
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23. he won't be sentenced for two months so
that might have something to do with it. If Virginia goes after him it could mean more time, which would be awesome. In 2 months he will be sentenced.
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:48 PM
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28. You guys will find any reason to rip on pro sports.
LMAO.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:54 PM
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30. Huh? I just reported what I heard on the teevee. How did I 'rip' anything?
:wtf:
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:55 PM
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31. I was talking to the other guys that think Vick will be back in the NFL the day he gets out of jail.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 07:43 PM
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34. No one wants that liability. n/t
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 06:24 PM
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33. Grand jury convenes next month for state charges
Up to 40 years for this asshole.
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