"Bobby Kennedy died believing his brother's killers had not been found"

[kpete]

"Bobby Kennedy died believing his brother's killers had not been found"

Chasing Assassins

by Guest Columnist, Matthew Stevenson

A review of Brothers: The Hidden History of the Kennedy Years, By David Talbot, Simon & Schuster,478 pages

...............

That November afternoon, between his shock, grief, and anger, Bobby Kennedy worked the phones. His political life in Washington had been spent either running his brother’s campaigns or investigating the grassy knolls of the Mafia, corrupt labor unions, and what an earlier attorney general, A. Mitchell Palmer, had called the Red Menace. He was on familiar ground. He spoke with Roy Kellerman, the Secret Service agent who had been in the limousine with the president. He spoke with Dave Powers and Kenneth O’Donnell, political aides to President Kennedy who were in the car behind the president’s when it rolled into Dealey Plaza. All of them used the words “ambush” or “a flurry of shots” to describe what had happened. Talbot writes: “O’Donnell and more than one Secret Service man would tell Bobby the same thing that day: They were caught in crossfire. It was a conspiracy.”

That evening, Bobby met Air Force One on its return from Dallas. He accompanied his brother’s body and widow to Bethesda Naval Hospital for what would turn out to be the most controversial autopsy in American history. Even before the assembled doctors bungled determining whether the President had been shot in the front or the back, Bobby had decided that it “was not a ‘he’ who had killed his brother—it was a ‘they.’” In Talbot’s most memorable phrase in a book of disturbing conclusions, the attorney general had become “America’s first assassination theorist.”

............

Just to be clear, Robert Kennedy never attended an annual gathering of assassination buffs or speculated about “Umbrella Man” or “Badge Man” or the “Three Tramps.” He did unleash his own investigative hounds, including the capable Walter Sheridan, who within 48 hours reported that Jack Ruby had received “a bundle of money” from Chicago mobsters with links to Jimmy Hoffa, the Teamsters union boss whom Bobby had tried for years to throw behind bars. Talbot writes: “Later, Kennedy would remark when he saw Ruby’s phone records, ‘The list was almost a duplicate of the people I called before the Rackets Committee.’” Talbot also concludes that both Jacqueline and Bobby believed JFK had been killed by “a large political conspiracy ... Perhaps there was only one assassin, but he did not act alone.” They never suspected Castro or the Russians.

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much more at:
http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2007/08/bobby-kennedy-died-believing-his.html

[Me.]

1. Very Interesting

I read that one night Jackie Kennedy sat down with a tape recorder and spoke at length about this matter. It was given to a lawyer, to be revealed at some future date down the road.

[MrSlayer]

2. Of course he did.

Because they weren't.

[onethatcares]

3. for some reason, I don't think police work takes such a short time,

I'm constantly amazed that Oswald was found out about that afternoon, but I'm more impressed that 19 hijackers could be identified within hours of the worst tragedy ever, then to find out that some of the hijackers are still alive.

[ret5hd]

4. But they found a hijackers passport sitting neatly on top of a burning and smoldering...

pile of molten metal, broken glass and other debris. Talk about luck!


(do i really need that sarcasm smiley here?)

[H2O Man]

5. "I remain convinced

that the preponderance of the evidence supports the finding of the committee that a gunman fired from the grassy knoll." -- Christopher Dodd; The Final Assassination Report by the House Select Committee on Assassinations; 1979; page 643.

[defendandprotect]

15. Wow . . . that's sad re Dodd. Either he's a total idiot or helping the cover-up. . .. .

[H2O Man]

16. I don't think

that is true, at all.

[defendandprotect]

24. Well, maybe you want to explain how all doctors, nurses and staff testify . . ..

to a large hole in the BACK of JFK's head -- and the official pictures show no such wound?

Or, perhaps you want to explain how a wound in JFK's right shoulder at a 45 degree DOWNWARD angle could possibly line up with a neck wound above it and to the left?????

Now, Dodd would certainly have at some time in his life either known this info or had the curiosity to find it --

So -- we have to believe that either he's abetting the crime or a total idiot.

Which one???

[H2O Man]

31. If you are serious,

you should read what Dodd said. Maybe this morning you can read the actual quote.

[dflprincess]

25. Dodd is saying he believes someone fired from the grassy knoll

the cover up says shot came from the Book Depository only.

[H2O Man]

32. Details, details.

But "Dodd must be an idiot."

[defendandprotect]

50. My apologies to you -- I read it too quickly --

Happily, Dodd is saying that he supports the USHR committee's decision that there was a "conspiracy" and that there was a gunman firing from the Grassy Knoll.

In my haste, I thought he was saying that he supported the WCR.

My apologies -- and thank you!!!

[aquart]

6. They thought exactly what the rest of us thought. STILL DO.

[mother earth]

7. I've never doubted for a moment that protection was the reason

for Jackie marrying Onassis. She knew from the start and so did Bobby, that's why history was repeated. I've no doubt that the Kennedys have always understood there are enemies within, just as the rest of us realize some of the worst happenings are thanks to the enemies within.

[WinkyDink]

10. She basically said as much, after Bobby's death:

"If they’re killing Kennedys, my children are number one targets.… I want to get out of this country."

In the summer of 1968, Jackie announced her engagement to Aristotle Socrates Onassis....
http://www.angelfire.com/wa/AandEsAvenue/Jackie.html

[pitohui]

27. she was paid to marry onassis

not to say that there wasn't a conspiracy to assassinate jfk, anyone can see that there was clearly a conspiracy and i'm sure she did too

but you don't have to marry onassis to move out of the usa

[qdemn7]

8. One of the reason I've never liked Teddy Kennedy

Is the fact he's always spouted the family line on the assassination: We're satisfied with the conclusion of the Warren Commission."

I really like the quote from Jim Garrision:

“If they killed my brother,” Garrison said, “I’d be in the alley waiting for them with a steak knife, not sitting at the Kennedy Center watching a ballet with them.”

[Me.]

9. I Think, That Like Jackie

Teddy feared for the family

[bluesmail]

33. makes me think of Chappaquidick

[RFKJrNews]

59. Oh, and don't forget Teddy's plane crash

Senator Edward Kennedy was involved in a near fatal "accident" *before* Chappaquiddick. Just a few months after the assassination of his brother President Kennedy, on June 19, 1964, Kennedy's plane was en route to the State Democratic Convention in Springfield, Massachusetts. However, the plane never reached its destination; it crashed on final approach (ironically, not far from where JFK Jr.'s plane went down in 1999). Kennedy's aide, Edward Moss was killed in the crash, along with the pilot, Edwin Zimny. Kennedy was critically injured with a broken back, but eventually recovered.

It should be noted that during this period, one bitter rival of the Kennedy brothers was the Republican Richard Nixon. Nixon had lost the presidential election to John Kennedy in 1960 and, for a time, it looked as if his political career might be over. However, by 1968, Nixon's fortunes had changed. He managed to win the Republican nomination and, in November 1968, he was elected President. Nixon's road to the White House was *conveniently* paved by the assassination of Democratic presidential candidate Robert Kennedy in June, five months earlier.

Once in office, Nixon would use his position to wage a clandestine smear campaign against the Kennedys. The top field operatives in the White House campaign of dirty tricks were Watergate burglars E. Howard Hunt and G. Gordon Liddy.

Before joining the Nixon administration, E. Howard Hunt was a political officer in the CIA, helping to stage coups in several foreign countries. Hunt also helped plan the Bay of Pigs invasion against Fidel Castro, developing close ties to many CIA-trained Cubans. On a more ominous note, Hunt has been accused of involvement in the assassination of John F. Kennedy, a charge which he has denied. (see Dirty Politics -- Nixon, Watergate, and the JFK Assassination) G. Gordon Liddy was an FBI agent from 1957 to 1962 and was part of COINTELPRO, a program of surveillance and sabotage against domestic political dissidents.

One of Nixon's first attempts to tarnish the Kennedy family was aimed at the deceased President, John F. Kennedy. In 1971, the White House requested that E. Howard Hunt forge "...some cables in order to blame John F. Kennedy for the death of the leader of South Vietnam ... for the purpose of publishing them in Time and Life." (Source: Plausible Denial, Mark Lane)

However, most of Nixon's smear attempts were aimed at Senator Edward Kennedy. Edward Kennedy had survived the ordeal of Chappaquiddick and Nixon wanted to make sure that he was not left unscathed. The White House asked "retired" CIA officer E. Howard Hunt to obtain "...cartoons that had been prepared in the Central Intelligence Agency, political cartoons attacking Senator Kennedy, for use should Senator Kennedy at that time run for president of the United States." (Source: Plausible Denial)

Also, on a White House tape, Nixon can be heard telling his aides to place spies among a Secret Service detail assigned to protect Senator Kennedy in the hope of uncovering damaging information on Kennedy. Nixon says, "we might just get lucky and catch this son of a bitch -- ruining him." Nixon also directed two of his most ruthless aides, H. R. Haldeman and Charles Colson, to plant a false news story linking Arthur Bremer -- the man who tried to assassinate George Wallace -- to Edward Kennedy.

And the beat goes on...and on...and on...to this day.

May God bless RFK Jr. and keep him safe from these maniacs and their hired thugs.

[defendandprotect]

17. Teddy they say has been under constant threat -- ???

Certainly the pieces have come together re Chappaquadic and Nixon/Dean conversation on tape --

And, Teddy seems to be rolling over on not even protecting HIS Medicare program -- ??? !!!

Some suggest that the nation/democracy is at stake so what does it matter if they want to kill your family -- ???

I'm yes and no on that --

[Sam Ervin jret]

42. T. Kennedy speaking out against the Iraq war FROM the beginning was IGNORED by every news agency..

Only one N.Y. paper gave his passionate and correct assessment of the Iraq war debate less than 75 words on an unobtrusive inside article. How many democrats or republicans with the history of service, family ties, place in the senate would be so ignored and were so correct? W e are quick to forget what has been done for us when those in power are working so hard to marginalize any voices of dissent, and Ted Kennedy is an easy target for marginalization. This is easy to see when even on DU he is a figure of controversy. It is little wonder it has been easy to silence him among the general public.

[pitohui]

65. agreed ted kennedy does not lack for courage

what he has lacked for is fair treatment in the media

considering this is one of the best senators who has served for many years, fighting an uphill battle against smears and multiple attempts to destroy him, i think he's given a pretty damn good accounting of himself and wonder if i could have done as much

i suspect i would have long since retired to some hidden private island, lord knows he could have well afforded financially to say "fuck it" to the usa and go on his merry way

he's not willing to do that, he has been working hard a long time in a difficult situation

he didn't make his life about a private vendetta (although who could have blamed him if he did), instead he has tried to really improve life for ALL and not just the well to do

[shance]

11. The article mentions of a methodical stalking of JFK by those who financially sought to lose

n/t

[Wiley50]

12. There are Many Reasons Why I Really Like Bobby Jr

Many he got from his father

[EFerrari]

22. He's so damn smart and he has that same sense of humor.

Takes you back.

[glitch]

40. His mother is pretty cool too. And his grandmother. :) nt

[burrowowl]

44. I love RFK Jr.

and I loved RFK (I cut classes to go to the airportat ABQ to take pictures of him and Ethel) I would like to see him run, but, I am too afraid. The BFEE is around.

[RFKJrNews]

60. Wonder what RFK Jr. would do as president

...to finally bring these murderers to justice?

BTW, I loved David Talbot's book "Brothers". Engaging read, a real page turner, think I blazed through it in just a couple of days. Although I am not 100% in agreement with Talbot's conclusions, he gets more right than he does wrong. Bobby Jr. also contributed interviews to the book.

[hedda_foil]

13. Read the book! It's sensational.

[Selatius]

14. This is why I think America will never elect another FDR or any visionary leader

Because they will be cut down.

[defendandprotect]

20. Right, they saw immediately that JFK would be another FDR . . . Truman had begun . . .

to stop the progress and maybe even begin to turn things around -- New Deal.
That's why the last FDR election Truman was in and Henry Wallace was out.
There seems to have always been a very forceful opposition -- I don't know how FDR got as
far as he did???

These people think the country and its wealth belongs solely to them -- it's theirs.

[Selatius]

21. My hypothesis is FDR won because people were so desperate for change.

FDR was considered a far left nut job before 1929, but he won office in the darkest years of the Great Depression. It is likely that if he had not been elected, the US would've imploded, as the people out in the streets were having food riots and were picking fights with company-hired thugs who wanted to keep them down.

I think there's a fair chance the US would've become an ally of Nazi Germany and would have gone fascist if FDR had not won. Many industrialists and powerful bankers envied Adolf Hitler's solutions to the Great Depression, and they wanted to emulate that model. They absolutely detested FDR's high taxes on the rich and social programs for the poor.

They even tried to overthrow him according to Gen. Smedley Butler:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

[defendandprotect]

23. True . . . but what I was referencing was HOW he accomplished what he did . . .

considering how strong the opposition was --

And, in fact, I've been reading Greg Palast's "Armed Madhouse" and he says that in fact the New Deal was Huey Long's idea . . . that Long was taking over the Democratic Party and that FDR simply took his ideas. All we hear about Long is pretty much the "scandal" --

Supposedly a large number of Americans at time of FDR's election -- with yet the new failure of capitalism/Depression -- were ready to vote Communism in. In order to save Capitalism, FDR had to regulate it.

And agree with all you've said here . . .

QUOTE "I think there's a fair chance the US would've become an ally of Nazi Germany and would have gone fascist if FDR had not won. Many industrialists and powerful bankers envied Adolf Hitler's solutions to the Great Depression, and they wanted to emulate that model. They absolutely detested FDR's high taxes on the rich and social programs for the poor.

They even tried to overthrow him according to Gen. Smedley Butler: UNQUOTE

Allen Dulles and Herbert Walker and Precott Bush were all working to raise money domestically and internationally for Hitler -- and changing US dollars into gold to ship off to Hitler.
Running front companies to raise money for Nazis.

[dflprincess]

26. I recall reading that, after laying out his plans for his first 100 days in office

one of FDR's aides said "If you succeed you'll go down as one of our greatest presidents." To which Roosevelt responded "If I don't succeed, I'll go down as the last president."

[EVDebs]

38. FDR won because of America's 'Tienanmen', the rousting of the Bonus Army of '32

by US army's MacArthur, Eisenhower and Patton no less. FDR said he knew he was elected after hearing of this.

[EFerrari]

18. They had to kill Bobby because he wasn't going to let it go. n/t

[John Q. Citizen]

41. And because he was going to win the nomination and the election.

[EFerrari]

45. Yes -- which would have put him in the position to resolve the case.

It couldn't be allowed to happen.

[defendandprotect]

51. RFK must have known how dangerous it could be for him to run???? Did he????

[RFKJrNews]

61. Yes, but he did it anyway

No one could explain this better than Bobby himself:

"I thought they'd get one of us, but Jack, after all he's been through, never worried about it. I thought it would be me." (RFK)

So yes, he knew and expected it all along. Then why did he run?

"I run because I am convinced that this country is on a perilous course and I have such strong feelings about what must be done. And I feel obliged to do all that I can."

If he knew he was going to be killed, what was the point of running?

"Few will have the greatness to bend history itself; but each of us can work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those acts will be written the history of this generation... It is from numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human history is thus shaped. Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."

In my mind, this is why both JFK and RFK died a hero's death. Both knew the potential consequences of their actions, but they did it anyway. for the greater good. In hopes that these sacrifices would force change.

I'd like to see more politicians who have that kind of courage today.

[defendandprotect]

67. Just speaking for the campaign itself and all that we saw and learned ---

QUOTE: If he knew he was going to be killed, what was the point of running? UNQUOTE

JFK and RFK showed us what campaigns and candidates and the presidency could be --
it was an unbelievably hopeful time -- RFK addressing what our hearts long called for.

A tremendous loss for our nation --
And, of course MLK equal to them --
Malcolm X . . . opening minds, including his own.

There was a brief period of time when TV was actually real and showing real dialogue.

[defendandprotect]

19. Thanks + I'll be looking for the book ...but I think RFK did know those involved . .. .

They say that very quickly at Washington DC parties the names were out because people knew who the enemies were. It's a pretty logical progression.

Helen Thomas also signed a transcript, if I recall correctly, of her recollection of the Murchinson party the night before and included all the names -- I've never seen it, but LBJ and Hoover, Nixon would have been on it -- right?

Plus, obviously, he knew Dulles and JFK's suspicions of him and Dulles' connection with LBJ and the Cabell Brothers -- on and on.

Edward Landsdale seems to be known immediately as the active planner in the Pentagon?

[Cetacea]

34. Thanks for the Thomas info. K+R (nt)

[EVDebs]

37. Ehrlichman's book Witness to Power page 40 hardcover

has a recollection of Nixon's re the RFK entry into the '68 race and implications that Nixon thought this would end badly for Bobby.

See DU thread at

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2762695#2771641

Ah, here it is:

Witness to Power by John Ehrlichman, pg. 40

Four or five of us sat with Richard Nixon as Bobby Kennedy made his speech for the television cameras. When it was over and the hotel-room TV was turned off, Nixon sat and looked at the blank screen for a long time, saying nothing. Finally he shook his head slowly. "We've just seen some very terrible forces unleashed," he said. "Something bad is going to come of this." He pointed at the screen. "God knows where this is going to lead."

[defendandprotect]

53. Thanks . . . I've never read Ehrlichman . . . despicable character. . ..

Presume this was his only non-fiction book?

Actually, so much went on in Nixon's White House --
They were playing and replaying Nazi propaganda -- analyzing it.
Even today, we can see that impact still ongoing in the GOP -- in fact, enlarged over Nixon's time.

Nixon was Prescott Bush's guy -- Prescott ran an ad --
Nixon wanted a slush fund beyond his Congressional salary --
He got it -- so from the very beginning illegimate finances.

While I'm not saying that Nixon would have directed murders himself -- though I don't doubt it --
I do think he was a knowing accomplice in the JFK coup and helped keep it covered up.

Ehrlichman, IMO, had fascist tendencies and loved to not "witness" but to be part of power --
That will often take a compromise with morality ---

Even being part of immoral and evil decisions making and carrying out those orders --

I have no better opinion of Haldemann, either --

I think they both understood that someone was paving the way for Nixon -- even to the point of murder -- they were intelligent men and were frequently around when a lot happened which would make it obvious. The "plane crash" with Dorothy Hunt, for instance, though that was close to the end.
The signposts were there all along the way during their time with Nixon.

Neither one has told us very much -- maybe because they felt their own complicity in the end????

[qdemn7]

28. Thanks, kpete

For the heads up about the book. :thumbsup: I think I'll pick it up and read it on vacation.

[L. Coyote]

29. Those of us who worked for Bob Kenndy that night still do. It ain't over yet!

WE still have to deliver on his vision for our society.

[EFerrari]

47. My mom took on two precincts and we walked them that day

for gotv. I was twelve, and after all that walking in the heat, I crashed for several hours after Mom took us home.

When I woke up, the house was dark and that was weird because Mom usually stayed up late watching TV or reading to music. My poor mother had watched it happen all by herself and had just gone to bed, in shock.

It ain't over. We remember.

[RFKJrNews]

62. Damn right it ain't over! We remember.

And after 8 years of the living hell that Bush's White House has created, we've got LOTS of work to do!

[TheUnspeakable]

30. k&r-This is a really great book

[Gabi Hayes]

35. there were several threads about Talbot's book when it first came out.

I heard him on a Chicago radio show, in which he said that the guy who was holding Kennedy's head as he died claims that the last thing RFK ever said was "Jack...."

another poster here said it was BS, that Talbot made it up to help sell the book.

I emailed Talbot about this exchange, wondering what he had to say about it, who the guy was (he did mention his name on the show, but I couldn't remember who it was, and still don't know).

I tried googling to find out, unsuccessfully, but I wonder what the story is on that?

anybody heard it, or read that part of the book?

[EFerrari]

46. I ordered it today. After I saw the cover, it took me a while to be able

to even be in the presence of that image. But, onward.

I hadn't heard that bit of the story.

[TheUnspeakable]

57. wait till you see the back....

it breaks my heart

[EFerrari]

63. I don't think I'll ever stop grieving for those amazing men.

Ever. But I want that book, want to hug the grief. If it will always be here, I might as well embrace it.

[TheUnspeakable]

56. there was a White House aide, Dick Goodwin..

cool guy. That part of book is kind of vague-first, the busboy who famously cradled Bobby's head,
says Bobby whispered "is everybody ok?", then a couple paragraphs down, it says "Bobby's last words
before slipping into unconsciousness, someone later told Goodwin, were "Jack,Jack" Goodwin seems reliable,so if he said someone told him that, it's believable, but it is vague.

aside from that, the book is so good in depicting what was going on then in the government, and how JFK was so at odds with the military and the CIA. Without going into specific theories of who killed him, it just makes it so blatently obvious that he had to be killed.

[EVDebs]

36. Read Joan Mellen's A Farewell To Justice. CIA's Joannides tie to Oswald

shows that the fix was in, and McCone lied to Bobby when he asked if the company was in on killing his bro.

It also looks grim for thos 'debunkers' who've written extensively but are now forced to backtrack,

Celebrated authors demand that the CIA come clean on JFK assassination
Gerald Posner, Norman Mailer and Don DeLillo back lawsuit to open secret files on CIA mystery man tied to Lee Harvey Oswald

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2003/12/17/joannides/index.html

Good luck doing a FOIA under a * administration DOJ. The secrets and bodies will remain buried in the CYA, oops, CIA.

[defendandprotect]

54. Tunnheim: "Oswald was employed by the CIA working on high level . . . .

assignments and probably also for the FBI."

You'll note some people are taking about A&E/History channel --
Of course, A&E brought us the "Men Who Killed Kennedy Series" and it's final episodes . . .
which were quite something . . . before being gagged.

Before that happened however, they did a documentary on the 1992 JFK Classified Records Act Panel which was headed by Tunnheim. At the end of the one hour documentary, Tunnheim repeats twice -- with the text displayed below that: --

"OSWALD WAS EMPLOYED BY THE CIA WORKING ON HIGH LEVEL ASSIGNMENTS AND PROBABLY ALSO FOR THE FBI" --

Presumably they would have seen Oswald's work records -- W-2 forms and IRS reports.
Journalists had immediately asked for this evidence at the time of the assassination and the information was denied.

The documentary played about four months and then disappeared.
Ironically, I had a copy of it -- but not the last part of it where Tunnheim repeats these words.
Meanwhile, I think he filed his report about the time they were impeaching Clinton's penis --
and probably he gave this testimony in secret. It's not in the files available.

Thank you!!!
I hadn't read about this lawsuit . . . and I guess I now have to find out what happened with it???

Blakely and Posner not trustworthy --

Despite this truth by Tunnheim -- probably dangerous for him to tell -- I don't think there's anyone who can do anything about it right now. Sadly!!!

[EVDebs]

39. JFK & Castro: The Secret Quest For Accommodation (why RFK didn't suspect Castro)

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/CA_Archives/CA_Show_Article/0,2322,320,00.html

[ooglymoogly]

43. of course they were never caught, they are the ruthless men behind the

curtain where all the disasters that befall this country are hatched for power and profit. JFK fingered his assassins in a major speech not long before he was assassinated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8MpDcB5NfU

[EVDebs]

49. SMOM virtually founded the CIA--Knights of Malta

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1983/07/willbedone.html

[defendandprotect]

55. Thank you -- saved it to listen to again -- but as we begin to understand . . ..

the full depth of the forces against JFK -- and against a people's government -- I think we begin to see that it is impossible for one president -- despite FDR's success -- to do this alone.

If we succeeded in electing someone like JFK again -- there would have to be tremendous public awareness of what he/she'd be up against --

It would require huge public support ---

[ooglymoogly]

64. If you are ready to get the real nutty gritty on what is going on

Here is a link everyone should watch from grade school to checkout.
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/ Warning! 1 hour plus movie, so watch it when you can take the time
I usually let these movies run for 5 minutes silently then push the time tab back to the beginning and turn back up the volume...that way the movie doesn't keep breaking up to catch up. I have now watched this movie 5 times...it is spellbinding if you can get through the first few minutes.

[Truth2Tell]

48. Truth Kick n/t

[EFerrari]

52. And kick.

[Norrin Radd]

58. k+r

[burrowowl]

66. KICK!

[dailykoff]

68. My impression from Talbot's book is that he knew who they were,

but was holding off on prosecuting until he got the presidency, which of course is why they whacked him as soon as he won the California primary.

p.s. Talbot was a little reluctant to spell it out but the hints are that it was a Texas hit job sponsored by the usual oil and military contracting guys and backed by confederates in the CIA, SS, and of course LBJ.

[RFKJrNews]

69. Now someone has tried to abduct RFK's granddaughter!!!

This news just in...happened over the weekend. Thank God she is ok!

SOURCE: WHDH-TV, Boston

BOSTON -- The 10-year-old granddaughter of Robert F. Kennedy said that someone tried to abduct her on Cape Cod Thursday, a source told NewsCenter 5.

Saoirse Rosin Hill, daughter of Courtney Kennedy Hill, was returning from playing tennis to the family's home in Hyannisport when two men drove up in a white van.

As the girl walked by the van outside the family's six-acre waterfront compound, one man asked if she wanted a ride but she ran away, the source said.

"Two white males, approximately 50 years old according to the witness, were sitting in a white GMC van. As the girl walked by the van, the driver asked her if she needed a ride. The young girl responded, 'no,' and just did not feel right about the situation and ran home," Barnstable Police Department Sgt. Mark Mellyn said.

(NOTE: Other reports say she ran to safety at a nearby post office. Also, one of the men in the white van was reported to be smoking a cigar.)

The girl told another girl about the incident, and that girl's mother told police. Officials said that they are investigating the incident.

"We are glad that they called and reported this. It is something that we would definitely take a look at," Mellyn said.

Courtney Kennedy Hill is the fifth child of Robert F. Kennedy and Ethel Skakel Kennedy, who called police to thank them for their help in the matter.

[dailykoff]

72. That is really frightening.

Like it's possible that anybody wouldn't know exactly where they were and who she is.

[bpeale]

70. I'm currently reading "Brothers"

It's a fascinating book about the impact of JFK's death on RFK & how he believed there was a conspiracy to kill his brother. Very good reading. Highly recommended.

[wicket]

71. kick

:kick:

[Swamp Rat]

73. One of them is hiding in Kennebunkport