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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 08:49 AM
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Contractors Say U.S. Military Jailed, Tortured Them for Reporting Fraud
Edited on Sat Aug-25-07 08:57 AM by reprehensor
I spit coffee out my nose when I saw this on the front page of the Dallas Right Wing-- sorry, Dallas Morning News today. Below the fold, of course. -r.

Whistle-blowers face punishment in Iraq

Associated Press

One after another, the men and women who have stepped forward to report corruption in the massive effort to rebuild Iraq have been vilified, fired and demoted.

Or worse.

For reporting illegal arms sales, Navy veteran Donald Vance says he was imprisoned by the U.S. military and subjected to harsh interrogation methods.

Also held was colleague Nathan Ertel, who helped Mr. Vance gather evidence documenting the sales, according to a federal lawsuit both have filed in Chicago, alleging they were illegally imprisoned and subjected to physical and mental interrogation tactics "reserved for terrorists and so-called enemy combatants."

Navy Capt. John Fleming, a spokesman for U.S. detention operations in Iraq, confirmed the detentions but said he could provide no details because of the lawsuit.

There were times Mr. Vance began to wish he had just kept his mouth shut, as he huddled on the floor in solitary confinement with that head-banging music blaring dawn to dusk and interrogators yelling the same questions over and over...

Continued...
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/082507dnintcontractors.6935f321.html

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Torture, it's not just for "terrorists" anymore.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 08:52 AM
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1. No good deed goes unpunished...
By Bush and his boys
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 10:36 AM
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10. I wonder if they'll vote Democratically from now on?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 12:08 AM
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22. Ain't it the truth. nt
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 08:55 AM
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2. K&R for the outrage... The slippery slope of torture justification
has just gotten steeper and slicker. How long until it comes to a police precinct near you? We are now living in a society that is just a few short steps from lawless.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 08:58 AM
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3. Heads better roll over this bs. They are absolutely vile and despicable.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 09:00 AM
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4. K&R This is outrageous.
They just keep taking it to the next level. Can we impeach these bastards yet? How many hundreds of crimes are required? :shrug:
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 09:13 AM
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5. I thought I'd heard it all, but nothing even shocks me anymore.
If they manage to get through the court system with a favorable verdict, it is thrown out. What a racket they have going.

Little by little, these stories are going to come out and the entire scenario will be known, but do we have the stomach for it?

One thing keeps running through my mind...where is the point that a man can finally say, "I have enough wealth"?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 09:25 AM
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6. Well, isn't that nice - we even torture our own soldiers.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 05:14 AM
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25. Torture our own soldiers for reporting corporate fraud!!
Eisenhower, eat your heart out.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 09:33 AM
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7. 363 tons of $100 bills flown in c-130 cargo planes into Iraq...and now this...
Edited on Sat Aug-25-07 09:34 AM by Junkdrawer
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 09:41 AM
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8. They have ways of dealing with those who question the bu$h regime
and that also is a privilege of the contractors as well.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 10:13 AM
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9. K & R !!! - Front Page Of MSBNC As Of Now !!!


Link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

Aricle (same one): http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20430153/

Rec it up there folks!

:kick:
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ecdab Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 11:59 AM
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11. How can people look the other way
when their fellow citizens are being tortured - tortured - an thrown in prison for blowing the whistle on corruption.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 12:52 PM
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13. That's The Question Of The Era !!!
And Welcome To DU ecdab !!!

:hi:
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 11:45 PM
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18. It's the idiot factor....
Their eyes glass over, and they say, "Well, they must have been doing something wrong."
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Rude Horner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 08:10 AM
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29. Yup, I've got relatives
who's circular logic goes the same way. I've had discussions with them and their attitude about ....oh, say - someone on trial in a court of law - their attitude is "Well, they must be guilty or else they wouldn't be on trial."

:banghead:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 09:51 AM
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31. And yet they never use that logic in Scooter Libby's case
To their minds, Scooter was a victim, a good man persecuted for no reason at all.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 12:41 PM
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12. Kick
Keep Kicked
:kick:
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 02:29 PM
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14. These are US Citizens, right?
Unfuckingbelieveable.

-Hoot
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 11:46 PM
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19. US citizens have no protection on foreign soil.
So, this was perfect. Except, they lived to tell.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 09:49 PM
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15. Kick
Error: You've already recommended that thread.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 09:52 PM
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16. This Article... Along With The Rolling Stone Article... Packs A Nice One, Two, Punch !!!
The MSM covered the first, we'll see if it covers the latter.

:shrug:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 11:19 PM
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17. I have been saying for seven years that Bushies ARE Nazis
Yet here again, they prove it for all the world to see.

Look at what they did to these people! You don't think with the whole 2004 election on the line, that they DIDN'T whack poor Pat Tillman?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 12:01 AM
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21. Oh ya...they got Tillman and the day will come when the truth is revealed.
I really don't think the Tillman family is going to drop this. They WILL pay for what they have done.

They really are Nazis. Just ask Prescott Bush.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 11:55 PM
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20. So THAT'S where all those missing weapons are!
We should have known. This explains a lot.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15474042/
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 02:22 AM
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23. Let's hear from you taxpayers...
How do you like paying for the lowest form of human behavior?

Those are your torture tax dollars at work.

Again, needless to say.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 02:25 AM
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24. K*R This war was about what?
All it's done is introduce torture as a new element of military imprisonment and intel gathering.

:wtf:

This is crazy stuff.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 06:59 AM
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26. Anyone else constantly reminded of that "gonna make a lot of money" scene from Fahrenheit 9/11?
:(

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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 07:22 AM
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27. K&R God Damn It!!! n/t
:mad: :puke: :wtf: :grr: :cry: :banghead: :mad: :puke: :wtf: :grr: :cry: :banghead: :mad: :puke: :wtf: :grr: :cry: :banghead: :mad: :puke: :wtf: :grr: :cry: :banghead: :mad: :puke: :wtf: :grr: :cry: :banghead:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 07:51 AM
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28. Any military guilty of doing this should be executed
Those in the military that are honorable should report and take necessary action to cleanse their ranks of the unfit.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 09:24 AM
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30. Kick and a ....
:kick: :puke:
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