Re Nugent Death Threats - Hold House of Blues Accountable

[OzarkDem]

Nugents recent racist, sexist rant in which he waved machine guns and threatened Obama and Clinton was during his "concert" at the House of Blues in Anaheim, CA.

Link to live video: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=757_1187963465&p=1

You have to wonder why HOB didn't do something to stop Nugent or report his illegal threats to authorities. You also have to wonder why they've issued no statement about the event or issued an apology.

The mission of HOB's "Foundation"

http://www.ihobf.org/main/mainFrameset.asp

"Mission Statement: The International House of Blues Foundation (IHOBF) is dedicated to bringing the arts to schools and communities
through programs that increase public awareness of African American contributions to American culture.

Foundation programs explore the history, art and music of the blues and demonstrate the vast influence of the blues on contemporary music and culture. Programs draw upon the universal language of music and art to encourage creative expression and cultural understanding.

The International House of Blues Foundation brings together people of diverse backgrounds in an atmosphere that encourages mutual respect and understanding."

Is Nugent's onstage rant at their venue an example of the "education" and "support" they promote for African American contributions to American culture, or is it just another slick marketing tool and a tax dodge under the guise of "promoting awareness"?

Why not contact the HOB Foundation officials and get their reaction:

HOBF-National

Susan K. Jauron
Executive Director
323.769.4634

Christie A. Jones
Operations & Promotions Director
323.769.4645

Harout Dimijian
Communications & Resources Director
323.769.6528

Eric Jarvis
Program Development Director
323.769.4675

For General Information:

Cheryl Mallare
323.769.4901
6255 Sunset Blvd., 18th Floor
Hollywood, CA 90028
email: [e-mail]

Here's the Program Coordinator at the Anaheim location where Nugent made his racist rant:

IHOBF-Anaheim
Amber Portz
Program Coordinator
1530 South Disneyland Drive
Anaheim, CA 92802
714.520.2388
email: [e-mail]

[Hepburn]

1. Am I correct in thinking this is the same organization as the HOB...

...in Hollywood? The one that Dan Ackroid owns? If so, maybe he should know, too.

[FreakinDJ]

2. Tour Date info

Here is a list a Ol' Teddy Boy's up comeing tour dates.

August 23 Jackson, CA Jackson Rancheria Casino & Hotel
August 25 Albuquerque, NM Route 66 Casino TBA
August 26 Mescalero, NM Inn of the Mountain Gods Resort & Casino TBA
August 30 Norman, OK Riverwind Casino Buy Tickets
August 31 Kinder, LA Coushatta Casino TBA
September 1 Detroit, MI DTE Energy Center Buy Tickets
September 2 Huron, SD South Dakota St. Fair Buy Tickets
September 3 Pueblo, CO Colorado State Fair

Lets see if we can find some email info for the persons respocible for booking these shows

[FreakinDJ]

4. Inn of the Mountain Gods - contact info

Great - its on thier dime too

Toll Free [phone]

[Blue_In_AK]

20. Thank God he's not coming to Alaska any time soon.

He likes to come up here and play our state fair and kill our animals. I hate the guy, myself. He always goes on these crazy rants about killing stuff -- although usually, I have to admit, it's critters, not people. He should have to answer for these terroristic threats against Dem candidates.

[brentspeak]

3. Good grief. Let's go after a perfectly excellent business for no reason.

They didn't "stop" Nugent? What were they supposed to do - tackle him from the stage for making idiotic statements? They're supposed to "call the authorities"? If they did that, House of Blues would be lucky if they managed to book a puppet show after pulling a stunt like that on one of their perfomers. And what were the authorities going to do - arrest him on stage for making idiotic statements?

It also just so happens that House of Blues' owners, Issac Tigrett and Dan Aykroyd, are prominent Democratic party donors and supporters. Why the heck would I want to unfairly alienate these two good people?

[FreakinDJ]

5. NO - I just want to see some canceled shows

thats all

what responsible citizen condones assassination threats

[peacebird]

7. Could not House of BLues issue a statement saying Nugents comments do not reflect

the point of view of the HOB foundation, and slamming the comments?

Seems like that would have been a reasonable response to such a diatribe during a concert at their facility.... ?

[FreakinDJ]

8. Could be arrested for "Brandishing a Firearm"

if America was a democracy

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

35. May I say, since Nugent is a musician they promote, shouldn't they have just a teensy bit of

understanding of the act which they sponsor?

Or is ignorance bliss? :shrug: MKJ

[OzarkDem]

11. As a corporation getting tax breaks for "promoting African American music culture"

they have an obligation to denounce Nugent's words and actions and at the very least ban him from performing again in any of their venues until he apologizes to Obama and Hillary.

As Dem supporters, we should be able to assume Tigrett and Aykroyd oppose Nugent's threats, but the very least they can do is publicly denounce his behavior.

[OwnedByFerrets]

26. Why not ask why the hell they would book someone

that has a well known record of shit like this. They wont get my business when they are supporting idiots like Nugent. And if more of us felt the same way, maybe it would stop. We, the paying public, HAVE to say NO at some point.

[Hobarticus]

38. If they were a perfectly good business...

they would have already distanced themselves from this unfortunate incident.

Frankly, I'm surprised that HoB hasn't issued a statement. That doesn't sound like their style.

[sandyj999]

6. He's a real POS

I thank God every day that he is no longer contaminating my state but is now in Texas.

[daninthemoon]

9. Absolutely. The least we can do is register our opinion with the

venues. The least HOB can do is issue statement of condemnation/refutation and not give him another platform. Ever.

[patrice]

10. They're going to cite Free Speech rights and deny any involvement

not only in what Nugent said, but also in any similar incidents that turned out differently, such as with Pearl Jam recently.

What's going here is that Rovian Doctrine says "Say ANYTHING you want to say. The controversy that ensues will carry your message forward. Some people will be turned off and they will either ignore you or attack you and the attacks help your message. **AND** you will also attract and solidify your base, i.e. your own dittoheads." That said I think it is a good idea to let the corporate sponsors of such SHIT know that we are out here too.

[OzarkDem]

12. Free Speech rights don't include illegal threats

and brandishing weapons onstage. The "boys will be boys" argument doesn't hold water in this case.

[patrice]

13. Oh, I don't agree with them. I was just saying that I can hear them now.

My main point is that guys like Nugent are RECRUITING and that's why they take the heat for what they say. There's a payoff in their base.

[R_M]

15. Pearl Jam protested Bush and Co just as the Dixie Chicks did.

Neither of them made death threats against anyone.

[patrice]

16. Are there any economic entities that connect the three incidents?

That would be the fun thing to hit them with "You (whoever that economic connection is) punished Pearl Jam and the Dixie Chicks for very mild expressions and showed favoritism toward Ted Nugents hate and Racism."

[LWolf]

14. How do we hold Nugent accountable? n/t

[daninthemoon]

17. Don't buy his records. Oh wait, is he still making records?

[LWolf]

23. I didn't even buy his records 2-3 decades ago. n/t

[KaptBunnyPants]

18. I will continue not buying his music, if that helps.

nm

[LWolf]

22. Me, too.

Of course, I've never bought any to begin with, so there must be something more.

[Critters2]

24. Me, too.

Time to take a stand. I will definitely not add anymore Nugent cd's to the Nugent cd's I don't have now.

[JerseygirlCT]

30. Yes me too - not much of a sacrifice, as I never would have anyway! nt

[AX10]

19. If one of us went to a dark red area and bashed Bush and Company...

the local mobs would have lynched immediately. These goddamn fascists can come to our cities and bash us to our faces without any repercussions! :wtf: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[FreakinDJ]

21. Arrested on the spot

if we were to make similar threats against repukes

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

25. This is an aging has-been who is absolutely desperate to revive...

...what he no doubt regards as the good old days when he was actually in demand. He's not a talented musician or a good singer -- he never was. He's using the same tactic Ann Coulter does to make it in the entertainment industry, which is always used by those who have no wares to bring to market, and that is: draw attention to yourself any way you can. Bad press, good press, doesn't matter, just get your name in ink. Whatever it takes to get people talking about you -- do it.

The best antidote is to just ignore him -- he's probably not dangerous, just pathetically desperate.

[OzarkDem]

29. If you watch the video in the OP of his ranting and gun waving

you'll notice he was inciting hundreds of his idiot audience to cheer along with him. He may be an ignorant, no talent has been, but he still has the ability to influence ignorant right winger fans of his to do something dangerous.

Its frightening to think some right wing psychopath in the audience (and there were probably quite a few) might see old Ted waving his guns onstage and think its ok to live out his/her sick fantasies.

Ted is very much responsible for the violent acts he encourages others to take, and to a degree, House of Blues is responsible to defuse the situation and forever ban Nugent or any of his ilk from performing in their venues.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

32. I would agree that incitement of those cheering idiots...

...to violence could be a concern.

[JerseygirlCT]

31. I agree. What's the old saying? There's no such thing as bad PR

He's just looking for attention he never deserved.

[The Iron Maiden]

27. I'd suggest...

adding Disney to that list... the HOB is in land belonging to the Disney company, just next door to Disneyland

[LibertyorDeath]

28. From HOB Mission statement

"our mission

To create a profitable principled global entertainment company.

To celebrate the diversity and brotherhood of world culture.

To promote racial and spiritual harmony through love, peace, truth,
righteousness and non-violence." http://www.hob.com/aboutHOB/

"At the core of the House of Blues company vision lies the belief in diversity and social harmony. Since its inception House of Blues has been committed to bringing about social change through cultural understanding and nurturing mutual respect."
http://www.hob.com/aboutHOB/community/

HOBF-National

Susan K. Jauron
Executive Director
323.769.4634

Christie A. Jones
Operations & Promotions Director
323.769.4645

Harout Dimijian
Communications & Resources Director
323.769.6528

Eric Jarvis
Program Development Director
323.769.4675

For General Information:

Cheryl Mallare
323.769.4901
6255 Sunset Blvd., 18th Floor
Hollywood, CA 90028
email: [e-mail]

Here's the Program Coordinator at the Anaheim location where Nugent made his racist rant:

IHOBF-Anaheim
Amber Portz
Program Coordinator
1530 South Disneyland Drive
Anaheim, CA 92802
714.520.2388
email: [e-mail]

Rec!

[kwassa]

33. Nugent recently had an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal

I read it out of astonishment that it was even there.

or that he could write at all.

It was moronic, truly. He held himself up as the moral alternative to the corruption of the counterculture.

[OzarkDem]

39. WSJ stooping to new lows

What a moronic paper. If Murdoch buys the New York Times, I guess we'll have to read Nugent's op eds there, too.

[Zenlitened]

34. Comcast, 'Progressive' Insurance also helping to pay his bills:

Nugent at South Dakota State Fair 9/2, Colorado State Fair 9/3.

Colorado appearance brought to us by the good folks at Comcast:
http://www.coloradostatefair.com/index.php?page=comcast-entertainment-series

Comcast contact info: http://www.comcast.com/corporate/about/pressroom/pressandanalystcontacts/pressandanalystcontacts.html


The South Dakota appearance takes place on the fair's 'Progressive Insurance Day':
http://www.sdstatefair.com/fairschedule/full%20schedule_new.pdf

Progressive Insurance contact info: https://www.progressive.com/contact/contactus.asp

:puke:

[OzarkDem]

37. Progressive hdqtrs in our area

It would be a good idea, perhaps to send them some emails.

Might not be a bad idea to post this information in local online forums, too.

[OneBlueSky]

36. if you or I made those threats, the Gestapo would be at our door the next day . . . n/t

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